The sentiments expressed below are relevant to
the whole world of Ham Radio.

If we do not take action now about what are essentially
CB licences, then we can have no complaint in the future
when Ham Radio is treated by the powers-that-be as a variation
of CB Radio.

We value the privilege of designing and making our own radios.

The thin end of the wedge is already there in some places, Spain,
for example, where you cannot fire up your own TX unless it has
been subject to scrutiny (expensively so) by government scientists.

We _MUST_ exhort all M3/CB Fools' Licensees to either
move to a better licence class or to not come on the bands
at all.

If they come onto the bands, we _MUST_ refuse to QSO with them.

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is time to remind everybody why the
self-respecting _REAL_ Radio Ham boycotts any
M3/CB Fools' Licensee he comes across on the bands?
(Those who QSO with M3/CB Fools Licensees identify
themselves as CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams)

It is because the M3/CB Licence is not a Ham Radio licence
by any stretch of the imagination. Ham Radio is a technical
pursuit for those suitably qualified and motivated, and the
requirements for entry to the gangrenous degeneration that
is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme are so ridiculously low
that no technical standard whatsoever is represented by the
passing of those requirements. Those who support the scheme
also support the thin end of the wedge of CBisation and all
that that entails.

We should encourage those who may be self-motivated to become
Radio hams to decline to take out a licence under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme because all
those who hold, or who have ever held, such a licence will never make
it into the ranks of _REAL_ Radio Hams, not least because Radio Hams
have gentlemanly traditions that the M3/CB Fools' Licensees
demonstrate to a man in this NG that they severely lack.

We must apologise to such candidates that certain people who
should have known better (The "L.I.A.R.S" who are adepts at
bull****ting, at side-stepping , and at downright lying) have contrived
to put the unnecessary hurdle of the Fools' Licence qualification
in their path. However, only CB-types fall at that first hurdle and
take out a licence under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme. Any budding Radio Ham worthy of the
name waits until he is properly qualified before taking out any
form of licence.

Airy R. Bean wrote:
The sentiments expressed below are relevant to
the whole world of Ham Radio.

If we do not take action now about what are essentially
CB licences, then we can have no complaint in the future
when Ham Radio is treated by the powers-that-be as a variation
of CB Radio.

We value the privilege of designing and making our own radios.

No such privilege exists.

The thin end of the wedge is already there in some places, Spain,
for example, where you cannot fire up your own TX unless it has
been subject to scrutiny (expensively so) by government scientists.

We _MUST_ exhort all M3/CB Fools' Licensees to either
move to a better licence class or to not come on the bands
at all.

Who is we?

If they come onto the bands, we _MUST_ refuse to QSO with them.

Probably for the best!

Cheers,

Micky

--
E&OE (C) 2005 Micky Taker
Micky Taker accepts no responsibility for any personal injury or
emotional distress that may occur as a result of reading the contents of
this message.

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:58:19 GMT, Micky Taker micky.t@ker wrote:

Airy R. Bean wrote:

The sentiments expressed below are relevant to
the whole world of Ham Radio.

We value the privilege of designing and making our own radios.

No such privilege exists.

It doesn't stop him inventing it, in order to use it as a stick with
which to beat us.

We _MUST_ exhort all M3/CB Fools' Licensees to either
move to a better licence class or to not come on the bands
at all.

Who is we?

The voices in his head?

--
from
Aero Spike

Airy R. Bean wrote:
The sentiments expressed below are relevant to
the whole world of Ham Radio.

Sentiments? Don't make us laugh old bean!

If we do not take action now about what are essentially
CB licences, then we can have no complaint in the future
when Ham Radio is treated by the powers-that-be as a variation
of CB Radio.

Please can you tell us who the collective 'we' actually consists of as
many of us don't want to be associated with your 'we'.

(Or your wee for that matter!)

We value the privilege of designing and making our own radios.

Yes - but anyone, licensed or not, can design and make a radio!

The thin end of the wedge is already there in some places, Spain,
for example, where you cannot fire up your own TX unless it has
been subject to scrutiny (expensively so) by government scientists.

Interesting. Maybe you should move to Spain?

We _MUST_ exhort all M3/CB Fools' Licensees to either
move to a better licence class or to not come on the bands
at all.

Well - for once old Bean, you've finally been reading what I have posted
in response to you for the better part of last week. But saying it isn't
doing is it?

If they come onto the bands, we _MUST_ refuse to QSO with them.

Which won't help as they would feel excluded and not wish to progress
further.

I believe you've talked yourself into a corner!

How do you suggest getting out of it?

David.

"David Edmonds" wrote in message
...
Airy R. Bean wrote:

How do you suggest getting out of it?

David.
Special brew????

"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
The sentiments expressed below are relevant to
the whole world of Ham Radio.

If we do not take action now about what are essentially
CB licences, then we can have no complaint in the future
when Ham Radio is treated by the powers-that-be as a variation
of CB Radio.

contemplate this: http://www.rathergood.com/mr_johnson/

CB or Amateur radio its all the same nowadays, a load of folks with nowt
better to do, talking hot air on Th Rig.
Can't remember a radio themed conversation. Technology has overtaken Amateur
radio, they can make rigs by the thousand and they work for years. They are
so cheap one chuck's them in the bin when they break after a few years good
service and buys another.
Last time whilst discussing a simple crystal CW TX and diode detector RX
with 384 audio chip. we were asked to not chat so "high brow" on the
repeater, as it didn't help newcomers feel welcome....

In message ,
writes
CB or Amateur radio its all the same nowadays, a load of folks with nowt
better to do, talking hot air on Th Rig.
Can't remember a radio themed conversation. Technology has overtaken Amateur
radio, they can make rigs by the thousand and they work for years. They are
so cheap one chuck's them in the bin when they break after a few years good
service and buys another.
Last time whilst discussing a simple crystal CW TX and diode detector RX
with 384 audio chip. we were asked to not chat so "high brow" on the
repeater, as it didn't help newcomers feel welcome....



And your response was?

Trev G3ZYY
--
Trevor Day
SIP:

The same as all proper radio amateurs should, in these conditions, use we
went CW,,, on the repeater.

In message ,
writes
The same as all proper radio amateurs should, in these conditions, use we
went CW,,, on the repeater.


LOL
--
Trevor Day
SIP: