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... "Chris Kirby" wrote in message ... HUMBUG wrote: Well Walt, you idiot, you OBVIOUSLY have NO idea of the efforts Ashley is putting into getting CBers away from CB and into Amateur Radio in the Melbourne Oz. area. It is a misguided effort. Anyone with a natural interest in technical things like amateur radio will discover amateur radio for themselves. The best place for CBers are the CB bands, and the best place for radio amateurs are the Amateur Radio bands. Whether it be in Oz or UK. 73, -- Chris I disagree Chris. UHF CB in this country is a totally different animal to anything that you may have seen in the UK. Every farm, Rural Fire Service, National Parks, State Forest, Emergency Service, Vet etc in every country town uses UHF CB as it is a practical and affordable system. I've installed dozens of these units over the years in helicopters for mustering in the outback. They use it in their day to day lives and businesses and will NEVER be heard saying 10-4 or using any lingo. The exposure to this system for the general public is automatic and they are highly aware of it. Not so Amateur Radio which just has to be one of the biggest secrets around. CB'ers operate AM, FM, SSB, packet, telemetry and even SSTV legally in this country. They are only going to "discover" Amateur Radio IF someone goes out there and introduces them to the service and enlightens them to the appeal of Ham Radio. Umm, not to start another debate, but Packet and SSTV is still illegal on CB in Aus (SSTV is still illegal for VK Novice grades too), although there are those trying to change that due to the growing interest in those modes amongst many CBers. Te;emetry is fairly limited too, restricted to a duty cycle of 3 seconds every 60 minutes.... |
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... Martin wrote: It's funny, I started out 27 years ago on CB, never having heard of amateur radio and never having any interest or knowledge about radio whatsoever. Then through CB I learned a bit more about radio, started building antenna's and got bitten by the radio bug! So I ventured out and looked at amateur radio.. Thank you. You have vindicated exactly what I said. For your benefit, I will repeat it again: I beg to differ..... "Anyone with a natural interest in technical things like amateur radio will discover amateur radio for themselves." Yes, but you also said: The best place for CBers are the CB bands, and the best place for radio amateurs are the Amateur Radio bands. Whether it be in Oz or UK. To which I pointed out that I started as a CBer, and it was CB that sparked my technical interest and, therefore, my interest in Amateur Radio. By your theory though, as I started as a CBer that's where I should've stayed... The best place for CBers are the CB bands, ... as it seems you did. Incidentally, I have said nothing in this thread which could be construed as derogatory about CBers. If you can find any such remarks by me about CBers, then please post them here for all to see. I have a CB radio, and thus, by definition, I am also a CBer, using that service for a specific purpose in connection with offroad motorsport marshalling. Then why make the comment you did? It seems a rather natural progression for tomorrows Amateurs to come from todays CBers. It is far better that we educate them in the proper way to operate, rather than abuse them or tell them they don't belong then whinge when they operate contrary to the customs that we never bothered to teach them! -- Martin, VK2UMJ To reply by e-mail, replace ".invalid" with ".com.au" Windows 95 was unable to detect a keyboard. Press F1 to continue, or F3 to exit. |
I'll put down why I have chosen to educate my Melbourne CB friends about
Amateur Radio and rebroadcast WIA & other Amateur Radio News 1. I became aware of ham radio through articles in CB Action, Amateur Radio Action, Radio & Communications. This magazine was bought by VK scanner and CB enthusiasts and included advertising and info about ham radio. This is how I learnt about ham radio. If I started over today, I too wouldn't discover ham radio as those commercial magazines are no longer with us. 2. It took months of searching to find any Aussie radio magazine, and I discovered AR magazine by accident. (I had been looking intensely for months for an ESR replacement, when all I found was USA or UK magazines at McGills.). If it wasn't for that accidental discovery I still wouldn't be a ham. Of all my long-time cb friends we all used to buy R & C or CB Action. Today, although we are still all on the air, only I buy Amateur Radio (WIA). I have written to AR twice with regards to why Amateur Radio is a dying hobby and recieved many positive responses. The outcome being that to allow CB'ers to get some idea of what Ham radio is, (which they used to get through CB Action) I have, with WIA permission, begun to re-transmit the WIA News on UHF CB 18 in Melbourne, Sundays@11am & 8pm. (HF 18 SSB coming soon) so those listening can find out where to find information for themselves. (Along with ARRL News, Newsline) 3. What I am doing is allowing others to 'discover' ham radio by listening to the WIA Broadcast and explaining to CB'ers just what is ham radio. That way, if they are interested any further, they'll write down the links etc given out on the news and look them up, just like I did. But without that initial 'contact' point, whether a ham magazine, a ham radio news bulletin etc, just how are CB'ers going to know ham radio exists? 4. Others are right in stating, that those that want to take the hobby further than cb will discover ham radio. I ask then how and where will they discover ham radio if they don't use the net, are cb'ers (who don't know any hams) and never buy a copy of AR magazine. (Which is hard enough to find at best of times) CB'ers don't know that these even exist, so where I discovered ham radio through CB Action, a potential new ham doesn't 'discover' it at all, and misses out on becoming a ham. 5. It's my opinion that there are plenty of CB'ers who would become amateur radio operators if they knew ham radio existed, what it was and how to go about getting an Amateur ticket. This information, or where to find it, is not available to the CB community. By providing WIA News I am providing an 'entry point' for CB'ers into the ham community, something that CB Action used to do. 6. The majority of the CB community is unaware (apart from those in the aus.radio newsgroups) of the Foundation Licence, which will make Amateur Radio more accessible to them. 7. When I was at school all we had was CB radio to chat with mates after school, there were no internet chat rooms or mobile phones back then. Ie, less kids today using CB than there was a decade ago. 8. I am referring here to good, educated, operators who've been on CB for many years. Only two other people I know out of a group of 12, who all have operated CB nightly since 1988 know what Amateur Radio is. 9. For the Foundation Licence to work and attract cb'ers and others to the hobby the first step would be to let these people know that it exists. How many cb'ers buy AR magazine and will discover that it exists. Almost none is my guess. For CB'ers to discover the Foundation Licence and take the test they first need to know about the WIA Website and AR Magazine, neither of which many (or any) cb'ers read. How else can cb'ers be kept informed, the CB. Those that want to hear can listen in, those that aren't interested, change channels. For the Foundation Licence to work you either need to get AR magazine bought by many more cb'ers, get a new commercial radio mag going or transmit to the potential hams, this being the easiest, and most likely to work method. I mean seriously how can the new licence be a success, and ham radio grow, without many cb'ers (where the majority of future 'radio nuts' will come) knowing what ham radio is or that exists, let alone that a new Foundation Licence has been introduced. Not one of my CB friends knows what ham radio is, that it exists or that they have the right to operate ham radio on the passing of some tests. You'd be amazed how many cb'ers don't know this, what we call 'basic information' There are a generation of UHF CB'ers, mostly kids & teens using 1/2w h/ts from DSE. Could these kids (like we were a decade ago) be the next generation of potential hams? That's why I'll continue to promote AR on the CBRS, so those that haven't discovered ham radio, have the same (if not better) chance to discover it as I did. There wouldn't be many cb'ers around whose jaws (like me) don't (didn't) drop in awe at ham radio operation. There are plenty of cb'ers out there who would become hams if they knew what it was and how and where to obtain a licence. Please read my articles in AR's "Over To You" (Oct 2002) and AR "Over To You" (March 2005). Or email me for a pdf copy. Summary: There are not the resources around that were around ten years ago that advertised amateur radio to it's main potential market, the CB community. What I am doing, is not forcing people into ham radio, but helping those CB'ers that have the 'radio bug' discover amateur radio by providing them with information about it and the WIA News Bulletin. Without magazines such as CB Action to bridge the gap between the CB and Amateur radio community and take it to Australia, then it must be taken to the CB community so they can be made aware of it and become a ham should they choose to do so. Also note that many cb'ers don't have computers and can't access the web, about the only repository of ham radio information left. (Or library used to have a few radio books, but are all gone today.....ARRL Handbook for the reference section I say :) The above is based on my actual experience of being on CB in the late 80's, scanning through the 90's (haven't scanned much since having ham ticket), to today, moving into ham in January 2005 and what I encountered along the way to becoming a VK. The best place for potential hams is CB. (In months leading up to ham exam, I changed from writing "FM", "AM" or "LSB" in the Mode section of my log book (yes, I have logs going back to 1st transmission in 1988) to "16K0F3E" for UHF CB FM, 6K0J3E for sideband and "A3E" for AM shortwave) All I am doing is providing today's CB community with the same kind of information that used to be available to me as a young cb'er via printed media, which put me on the path to amateur radio. Should today's CB'ers not be told about us for some reason? Isn't helping others part of our hobby? (The Amateur is Patriotic, Friendly, Loyal, Progressive, Balanced & Considerate) All I am doing is offering a news re-broadcast and amateur radio information-after the news-to cb'ers on air. (I had no 'elmering' as I became a ham, I flew solo and it was very difficult, it would have been nice to have a 'ham friend' to help me on my way, but I didn't, so I went about myself.), and to offer assistance to those that ask about ham radio. If they ask a question like "What is ham radio" I point them to the WIA website, or if they don't have the web, to give them info another way. And besides, I enjoy being able to help others out. (The potential to let cb'ers know what ham radio is went with the demise of CBA, ARA, R & C, ESR, where everyone of my generation discovered it.) The ARRL promote Amateur on CB bands, FRS bands and even commercial radio and television. Note also, that from Wednesday, March 30, 2005, check-ins for the WIA broadcast on UHF 18 will be taken after the news, as will questions and comments. VK3HAG "HUMBUG" wrote in message ... Chris Kirby wrote: snip The best place for CBers are the CB bands, and the best place for radio amateurs are the Amateur Radio bands. Whether it be in Oz or UK. Y'know minds are like parachutes - they work best when open. If you were a skydiver you'd bounce. -- Humbug |
"Ashley VK3HAG" wrote in message ... I'll put down why I have chosen to educate my Melbourne CB friends about Amateur Radio and rebroadcast WIA & other Amateur Radio News 1. I became aware of ham radio through articles in CB Action, Amateur Radio Action, Radio & Communications. This magazine was bought by VK scanner and CB enthusiasts and included advertising and info about ham radio. This is how I learnt about ham radio. If I started over today, I too wouldn't discover ham radio as those commercial magazines are no longer with us. 2. It took months of searching to find any Aussie radio magazine, and I discovered AR magazine by accident. (I had been looking intensely for months for an ESR replacement, when all I found was USA or UK magazines at McGills.). If it wasn't for that accidental discovery I still wouldn't be a ham. Of all my long-time cb friends we all used to buy R & C or CB Action. Today, although we are still all on the air, only I buy Amateur Radio (WIA). I have written to AR twice with regards to why Amateur Radio is a dying hobby and recieved many positive responses. The outcome being that to allow CB'ers to get some idea of what Ham radio is, (which they used to get through CB Action) I have, with WIA permission, begun to re-transmit the WIA News on UHF CB 18 in Melbourne, Sundays@11am & 8pm. (HF 18 SSB coming soon) so those listening can find out where to find information for themselves. (Along with ARRL News, Newsline) 3. What I am doing is allowing others to 'discover' ham radio by listening to the WIA Broadcast and explaining to CB'ers just what is ham radio. That way, if they are interested any further, they'll write down the links etc given out on the news and look them up, just like I did. But without that initial 'contact' point, whether a ham magazine, a ham radio news bulletin etc, just how are CB'ers going to know ham radio exists? 4. Others are right in stating, that those that want to take the hobby further than cb will discover ham radio. I ask then how and where will they discover ham radio if they don't use the net, are cb'ers (who don't know any hams) and never buy a copy of AR magazine. (Which is hard enough to find at best of times) CB'ers don't know that these even exist, so where I discovered ham radio through CB Action, a potential new ham doesn't 'discover' it at all, and misses out on becoming a ham. 5. It's my opinion that there are plenty of CB'ers who would become amateur radio operators if they knew ham radio existed, what it was and how to go about getting an Amateur ticket. This information, or where to find it, is not available to the CB community. By providing WIA News I am providing an 'entry point' for CB'ers into the ham community, something that CB Action used to do. 6. The majority of the CB community is unaware (apart from those in the aus.radio newsgroups) of the Foundation Licence, which will make Amateur Radio more accessible to them. 7. When I was at school all we had was CB radio to chat with mates after school, there were no internet chat rooms or mobile phones back then. Ie, less kids today using CB than there was a decade ago. 8. I am referring here to good, educated, operators who've been on CB for many years. Only two other people I know out of a group of 12, who all have operated CB nightly since 1988 know what Amateur Radio is. 9. For the Foundation Licence to work and attract cb'ers and others to the hobby the first step would be to let these people know that it exists. How many cb'ers buy AR magazine and will discover that it exists. Almost none is my guess. For CB'ers to discover the Foundation Licence and take the test they first need to know about the WIA Website and AR Magazine, neither of which many (or any) cb'ers read. How else can cb'ers be kept informed, the CB. Those that want to hear can listen in, those that aren't interested, change channels. For the Foundation Licence to work you either need to get AR magazine bought by many more cb'ers, get a new commercial radio mag going or transmit to the potential hams, this being the easiest, and most likely to work method. I mean seriously how can the new licence be a success, and ham radio grow, without many cb'ers (where the majority of future 'radio nuts' will come) knowing what ham radio is or that exists, let alone that a new Foundation Licence has been introduced. Not one of my CB friends knows what ham radio is, that it exists or that they have the right to operate ham radio on the passing of some tests. You'd be amazed how many cb'ers don't know this, what we call 'basic information' There are a generation of UHF CB'ers, mostly kids & teens using 1/2w h/ts from DSE. Could these kids (like we were a decade ago) be the next generation of potential hams? That's why I'll continue to promote AR on the CBRS, so those that haven't discovered ham radio, have the same (if not better) chance to discover it as I did. There wouldn't be many cb'ers around whose jaws (like me) don't (didn't) drop in awe at ham radio operation. There are plenty of cb'ers out there who would become hams if they knew what it was and how and where to obtain a licence. Please read my articles in AR's "Over To You" (Oct 2002) and AR "Over To You" (March 2005). Or email me for a pdf copy. Summary: There are not the resources around that were around ten years ago that advertised amateur radio to it's main potential market, the CB community. What I am doing, is not forcing people into ham radio, but helping those CB'ers that have the 'radio bug' discover amateur radio by providing them with information about it and the WIA News Bulletin. Without magazines such as CB Action to bridge the gap between the CB and Amateur radio community and take it to Australia, then it must be taken to the CB community so they can be made aware of it and become a ham should they choose to do so. Also note that many cb'ers don't have computers and can't access the web, about the only repository of ham radio information left. (Or library used to have a few radio books, but are all gone today.....ARRL Handbook for the reference section I say :) The above is based on my actual experience of being on CB in the late 80's, scanning through the 90's (haven't scanned much since having ham ticket), to today, moving into ham in January 2005 and what I encountered along the way to becoming a VK. The best place for potential hams is CB. (In months leading up to ham exam, I changed from writing "FM", "AM" or "LSB" in the Mode section of my log book (yes, I have logs going back to 1st transmission in 1988) to "16K0F3E" for UHF CB FM, 6K0J3E for sideband and "A3E" for AM shortwave) All I am doing is providing today's CB community with the same kind of information that used to be available to me as a young cb'er via printed media, which put me on the path to amateur radio. Should today's CB'ers not be told about us for some reason? Isn't helping others part of our hobby? (The Amateur is Patriotic, Friendly, Loyal, Progressive, Balanced & Considerate) All I am doing is offering a news re-broadcast and amateur radio information-after the news-to cb'ers on air. (I had no 'elmering' as I became a ham, I flew solo and it was very difficult, it would have been nice to have a 'ham friend' to help me on my way, but I didn't, so I went about myself.), and to offer assistance to those that ask about ham radio. If they ask a question like "What is ham radio" I point them to the WIA website, or if they don't have the web, to give them info another way. And besides, I enjoy being able to help others out. (The potential to let cb'ers know what ham radio is went with the demise of CBA, ARA, R & C, ESR, where everyone of my generation discovered it.) The ARRL promote Amateur on CB bands, FRS bands and even commercial radio and television. Note also, that from Wednesday, March 30, 2005, check-ins for the WIA broadcast on UHF 18 will be taken after the news, as will questions and comments. VK3HAG "HUMBUG" wrote in message ... Chris Kirby wrote: snip The best place for CBers are the CB bands, and the best place for radio amateurs are the Amateur Radio bands. Whether it be in Oz or UK. Y'know minds are like parachutes - they work best when open. If you were a skydiver you'd bounce. -- Humbug Hello ashley the AR is available from any news agent all potential amatuers have to do is to ask the news agent to get for you, this is how i get my coppy every month on regular order Alf VK5ZKL |
Yep, but many cb'ers stopped looking for radio mags when R & C died, and I
didn't know there was a magazine for hams until I discovered it, by accident whilst buying smokes, from a newsagent. If I hadn't have bought those smokes in Oct 2002 and found AR magazine I wouldn't be VK3HAG today. Remembering that in cb's and radio's heyday, AR magazine was subscription only, and not available in newsagents until well after the demise of R &C, when many cb'ers had stopped going to newsagents for their R & C magazine. Now, as a WIA member, mine arrives nicely wrapped every month. VK3HAG. "wonderer" wrote in message ... "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote in message ... I'll put down why I have chosen to educate my Melbourne CB friends about Amateur Radio and rebroadcast WIA & other Amateur Radio News 1. I became aware of ham radio through articles in CB Action, Amateur Radio Action, Radio & Communications. This magazine was bought by VK scanner and CB enthusiasts and included advertising and info about ham radio. This is how I learnt about ham radio. If I started over today, I too wouldn't discover ham radio as those commercial magazines are no longer with us. 2. It took months of searching to find any Aussie radio magazine, and I discovered AR magazine by accident. (I had been looking intensely for months for an ESR replacement, when all I found was USA or UK magazines at McGills.). If it wasn't for that accidental discovery I still wouldn't be a ham. Of all my long-time cb friends we all used to buy R & C or CB Action. Today, although we are still all on the air, only I buy Amateur Radio (WIA). I have written to AR twice with regards to why Amateur Radio is a dying hobby and recieved many positive responses. The outcome being that to allow CB'ers to get some idea of what Ham radio is, (which they used to get through CB Action) I have, with WIA permission, begun to re-transmit the WIA News on UHF CB 18 in Melbourne, Sundays@11am & 8pm. (HF 18 SSB coming soon) so those listening can find out where to find information for themselves. (Along with ARRL News, Newsline) 3. What I am doing is allowing others to 'discover' ham radio by listening to the WIA Broadcast and explaining to CB'ers just what is ham radio. That way, if they are interested any further, they'll write down the links etc given out on the news and look them up, just like I did. But without that initial 'contact' point, whether a ham magazine, a ham radio news bulletin etc, just how are CB'ers going to know ham radio exists? 4. Others are right in stating, that those that want to take the hobby further than cb will discover ham radio. I ask then how and where will they discover ham radio if they don't use the net, are cb'ers (who don't know any hams) and never buy a copy of AR magazine. (Which is hard enough to find at best of times) CB'ers don't know that these even exist, so where I discovered ham radio through CB Action, a potential new ham doesn't 'discover' it at all, and misses out on becoming a ham. 5. It's my opinion that there are plenty of CB'ers who would become amateur radio operators if they knew ham radio existed, what it was and how to go about getting an Amateur ticket. This information, or where to find it, is not available to the CB community. By providing WIA News I am providing an 'entry point' for CB'ers into the ham community, something that CB Action used to do. 6. The majority of the CB community is unaware (apart from those in the aus.radio newsgroups) of the Foundation Licence, which will make Amateur Radio more accessible to them. 7. When I was at school all we had was CB radio to chat with mates after school, there were no internet chat rooms or mobile phones back then. Ie, less kids today using CB than there was a decade ago. 8. I am referring here to good, educated, operators who've been on CB for many years. Only two other people I know out of a group of 12, who all have operated CB nightly since 1988 know what Amateur Radio is. 9. For the Foundation Licence to work and attract cb'ers and others to the hobby the first step would be to let these people know that it exists. How many cb'ers buy AR magazine and will discover that it exists. Almost none is my guess. For CB'ers to discover the Foundation Licence and take the test they first need to know about the WIA Website and AR Magazine, neither of which many (or any) cb'ers read. How else can cb'ers be kept informed, the CB. Those that want to hear can listen in, those that aren't interested, change channels. For the Foundation Licence to work you either need to get AR magazine bought by many more cb'ers, get a new commercial radio mag going or transmit to the potential hams, this being the easiest, and most likely to work method. I mean seriously how can the new licence be a success, and ham radio grow, without many cb'ers (where the majority of future 'radio nuts' will come) knowing what ham radio is or that exists, let alone that a new Foundation Licence has been introduced. Not one of my CB friends knows what ham radio is, that it exists or that they have the right to operate ham radio on the passing of some tests. You'd be amazed how many cb'ers don't know this, what we call 'basic information' There are a generation of UHF CB'ers, mostly kids & teens using 1/2w h/ts from DSE. Could these kids (like we were a decade ago) be the next generation of potential hams? That's why I'll continue to promote AR on the CBRS, so those that haven't discovered ham radio, have the same (if not better) chance to discover it as I did. There wouldn't be many cb'ers around whose jaws (like me) don't (didn't) drop in awe at ham radio operation. There are plenty of cb'ers out there who would become hams if they knew what it was and how and where to obtain a licence. Please read my articles in AR's "Over To You" (Oct 2002) and AR "Over To You" (March 2005). Or email me for a pdf copy. Summary: There are not the resources around that were around ten years ago that advertised amateur radio to it's main potential market, the CB community. What I am doing, is not forcing people into ham radio, but helping those CB'ers that have the 'radio bug' discover amateur radio by providing them with information about it and the WIA News Bulletin. Without magazines such as CB Action to bridge the gap between the CB and Amateur radio community and take it to Australia, then it must be taken to the CB community so they can be made aware of it and become a ham should they choose to do so. Also note that many cb'ers don't have computers and can't access the web, about the only repository of ham radio information left. (Or library used to have a few radio books, but are all gone today.....ARRL Handbook for the reference section I say :) The above is based on my actual experience of being on CB in the late 80's, scanning through the 90's (haven't scanned much since having ham ticket), to today, moving into ham in January 2005 and what I encountered along the way to becoming a VK. The best place for potential hams is CB. (In months leading up to ham exam, I changed from writing "FM", "AM" or "LSB" in the Mode section of my log book (yes, I have logs going back to 1st transmission in 1988) to "16K0F3E" for UHF CB FM, 6K0J3E for sideband and "A3E" for AM shortwave) All I am doing is providing today's CB community with the same kind of information that used to be available to me as a young cb'er via printed media, which put me on the path to amateur radio. Should today's CB'ers not be told about us for some reason? Isn't helping others part of our hobby? (The Amateur is Patriotic, Friendly, Loyal, Progressive, Balanced & Considerate) All I am doing is offering a news re-broadcast and amateur radio information-after the news-to cb'ers on air. (I had no 'elmering' as I became a ham, I flew solo and it was very difficult, it would have been nice to have a 'ham friend' to help me on my way, but I didn't, so I went about myself.), and to offer assistance to those that ask about ham radio. If they ask a question like "What is ham radio" I point them to the WIA website, or if they don't have the web, to give them info another way. And besides, I enjoy being able to help others out. (The potential to let cb'ers know what ham radio is went with the demise of CBA, ARA, R & C, ESR, where everyone of my generation discovered it.) The ARRL promote Amateur on CB bands, FRS bands and even commercial radio and television. Note also, that from Wednesday, March 30, 2005, check-ins for the WIA broadcast on UHF 18 will be taken after the news, as will questions and comments. VK3HAG "HUMBUG" wrote in message ... Chris Kirby wrote: snip The best place for CBers are the CB bands, and the best place for radio amateurs are the Amateur Radio bands. Whether it be in Oz or UK. Y'know minds are like parachutes - they work best when open. If you were a skydiver you'd bounce. -- Humbug Hello ashley the AR is available from any news agent all potential amatuers have to do is to ask the news agent to get for you, this is how i get my coppy every month on regular order Alf VK5ZKL |
"wonderer" wrote in message
... [SNIP] Hello ashley the AR is available from any news agent all potential amatuers have to do is to ask the news agent to get for you, this is how i get my coppy every month on regular order Alf VK5ZKL That doesn't help any if you don't know it exists or that you can get it at a newsagent! I think Ashley's point is, many years ago CB Action was very popular amongst CBers and contained just enough Amateur information to let the newcomer know that there was more than just CB. Then, if they were interested, they could follow up through one of the contacts mentioned in CB Action, or even by contacting CBA themselves. Amateur radio was also widely discussed amongst CBers on air or at CB club meetings, so there was another way for newcomers to become aware of ham radio and find out more info. But now, there is no such magazine popular amongst CBers so, unless you have prior knowledge of AR or are told about it, chances are you wouldn't even know it existed and hence, would never read the mag.... And many of the newcomers have no idea of Amateur radio (heck, most don't even know that CB is governed by regulations!), so the on air discussions are far fewer, as are the old CB clubs and gatherings of the 80's! To inspire people to become amateurs we must first of all tell people about amateur radio, and where they can get more info even if that is just the AR magazine. We have to tell them about the benefits and why it is worth their time and money studying and getting a licence, when they can play on CB for free! And finally, we have to lose the arrogant attitude shown here by *some* overseas operators and encourage CBers (the 'sensible' ones) to learn more about ham radio and get their licence.. If that can be achieved by broadcasting WIA news over CB freq's, then I think it is a great idea! -- Martin, VK2UMJ To reply by e-mail, replace ".invalid" with ".com.au" Windows 95 was unable to detect a keyboard. Press F1 to continue, or F3 to exit. |
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:59:09 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote: Walt Davidson G3NNY is a *HYPOCRITE* because he carries on about computers and the Internet here yet what is he operating? Maybe you should give up on the Internet Walt and dust off your spark gap transmitter. Dear Simple Simon, I'll pass on your comments to G3NNY. (John is a friend of mine.) I'm sure he won't know what you're raving on about, however. Oh classic! LOL. JH |
"MW0GUV" wrote in message
... Dear Simple Simon, I'll pass on your comments to G3NNY. (John is a friend of mine.) I'm sure he won't know what you're raving on about, however. 73 de G3NYY I don't accept that you have any friends Oh don't be soft. Walt has helped me out in the past and I've held an M3 / G7 and even heavens to betsie, a CB licence. He's got strong views which we may disagree with, but he's not a nasty piece of work like some we could mention... JH |
"Jon Harris" wrote in message
... "Walt Davidson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:59:09 +1100, Simon VK3XEM wrote: Walt Davidson G3NNY is a *HYPOCRITE* because he carries on about computers and the Internet here yet what is he operating? Maybe you should give up on the Internet Walt and dust off your spark gap transmitter. Dear Simple Simon, I'll pass on your comments to G3NNY. (John is a friend of mine.) I'm sure he won't know what you're raving on about, however. Oh classic! LOL. JH Yes, well, we suspect Walt suffers CRAFT (Can't Remember A F***ing Thing).... |
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:49:46 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote:
Yep, but many cb'ers stopped looking for radio mags when R & C died, and I didn't know there was a magazine for hams until I discovered it, by accident whilst buying smokes, from a newsagent. If I hadn't have bought those smokes in Oct 2002 and found AR magazine I wouldn't be VK3HAG today. .... and if you carry on smoking you probably won't be VK3HAG for very much longer. Did you have to re-post all that crap just to add 5 lines about buying cancer-sticks? 73 de Jock. -- Don't vote: it only encourages them. |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:49:46 GMT, "Ashley VK3HAG" wrote: Did you have to re-post all that crap just to add 5 lines about buying cancer-sticks? 73 de Jock. You sure you're not Walt in disguise as your as much of a Troll as he is....**** stirring seems to come natural for you |
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