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bb May 15th 05 02:39 AM

Robeson will say just about anything...
 

K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:
And your phone compnay/ISP had EVIDENCE of your misdeeds in hand.
I sent it to them.


Yeah, one sided evidence...(SNIP)


Nope. I gave them newsgroup attributes, links to this forum,
links to your previous claims to illegal beahviour. They had a

chance
to see both sides, Todd.


Bricks through windows? Slashed tires? Terrorized wives? Violence?

All utterences of yours on rrap.

Speaking of which some friends of mine at the
FBI are wondering about this comment you made a few days ago.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Their just wondering.


Liar! And it's "They're wondering".


"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson! They

both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ


Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


K4YZ May 15th 05 09:17 AM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:
And your phone compnay/ISP had EVIDENCE of your misdeeds in

hand.
I sent it to them.

Yeah, one sided evidence...(SNIP)


Nope. I gave them newsgroup attributes, links to this forum,
links to your previous claims to illegal beahviour. They had a

chance
to see both sides, Todd.


Bricks through windows? Slashed tires? Terrorized wives? Violence?

All utterences of yours on rrap.


I could quote one or two words from any of your posts, Brain, and
have you looking like a cross between John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and
Wayne Williams.

You refuse to cite the alleged threats.

Well...Let me word that a bit more carefully...You're UNABLE to
cite the posts because to do so would prove me right...

That's why you remain a coward, too.....

Speaking of which some friends of mine at the
FBI are wondering about this comment you made a few days ago.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! !

!

Their just wondering.


Liar! And it's "They're wondering".


"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!


Did dial...

Intersting conversation.

Some very interesting folks in Fairfield County.

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson! They

both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ


Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make

believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


Nope.

Take a chance, Oh Cowardly One...

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd like.

No cajones?

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 15th 05 10:30 PM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:
And your phone compnay/ISP had EVIDENCE of your misdeeds in

hand.
I sent it to them.

Yeah, one sided evidence...(SNIP)

Nope. I gave them newsgroup attributes, links to this

forum,
links to your previous claims to illegal beahviour. They had a

chance
to see both sides, Todd.


Bricks through windows? Slashed tires? Terrorized wives?

Violence?

All utterences of yours on rrap.


I could quote one or two words from any of your posts, Brain,

and
have you looking like a cross between John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and
Wayne Williams.


More likely Charlie Chan. You cried and whined when I used English as
a Second Language (ESL). You wanted to inform my family. Idiot.

You refuse to cite the alleged threats.


You, on the other hand, are bizarre and creepy. Your words are
archived in GOOGLE.

Well...Let me word that a bit more carefully...You're UNABLE to
cite the posts because to do so would prove me right...

That's why you remain a coward, too.....


You haven't been proved right in some time. Best of Luck, though,
especially with the "A" NCOIC documentation. It's all on you.

Speaking of which some friends of mine at the
FBI are wondering about this comment you made a few days ago.


BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA! ! ! ! ! !

!
!

Their just wondering.

Liar! And it's "They're wondering".


"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!


Did dial...

Intersting conversation.

Some very interesting folks in Fairfield County.


I certainly hope they documented the call. It will be good to have a
government agency confirm that you have an unnatural interest in me and
my family. Please say that you dialed 911. Please.

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson! They

both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ


Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make

believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


Nope.

Take a chance, Oh Cowardly One...


With you??? No. You provide evidence of your claims. Got any?

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

I know Ray Collins. What would he have to do with appointing you to
"A" NCOIC of NMC MARS/Okinawa??? If he had, you can be assured that he
would have done so with a letter of appointment. Hi!

"Sorry Hans, US Marine Corps IS Air Force!!!" Hi, hi!

No cajones?


I merely lack your stupidity.

Steve, K4YZ


bb


[email protected] May 16th 05 12:05 AM

From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:



Liar! And it's "They're wondering".


"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!


Did dial...

Intersting conversation.

Some very interesting folks in Fairfield County.


Tsk. Typical Robeson IMPLICATION. NO details of

1. The actual authority in this "Fairfield County."

2. What was said. [Robeson will cite some alleged
"privacy" ergo he will not have to reveal anything]

3. Nothing at all on the "interesting" part.

4. All of the above is just total nonsense, a
fantasy on Robeson's part.

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson! They

both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ


Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make

believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


Nope.


Actually, Robeson is "taking the chance" by NOT finding
out anything in detail. He is BLUFFING without having
done any research.

Take a chance, Oh Cowardly One...


Robeson seems to be the "coward." Having had over five
years to "research" ANYTHING I've mentioned in regards
to employers OR currently-living amateur radio licensee
friends, he has FAILED to do so.

Instead, Robeson FABRICATED an entirely FALSE person
who allegedly "knew me" at NADC (closed for a decade)
back in 1971. Robeson MANUFACTURED a FALSITY that I
"was seeking employment there" even though I've
explained otherwise (I was, and continued to be, an
employee of RCA Corporation until 1975). Robeson
took a "coward's" route by MANUFACTURING A FALSITY.

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force? :-)
Stebie might think that Scott AFB will close its doors
quickly since it is on the DoD closure list...then
"nobody can find out." :-)

In reality, DETAILED unit records in the U.S. military
are NOT kept forever. This is particularly true for
enlisted personnel. Few military units and installations
remain intact in one place with "personnel departments"
equivalent to civilian employers. Units can be
deactivated, reactivated, or merged with other units on
a rapid basis, their names and nomenclatures changed
(seemingly at whims of higher commanders) as fast as
orders can be "cut." :-)

Stebie is BLUFFING when he expects an old unit of "his"
to be intact 24 years after his claim of service there.
Not only that, but he is ignorant of the Privacy Act of
1974. Requests for information must be in writing.
Legal cites: 5 U.S.C. 552a(3)(3)on writing plus
authority on information in 44 U.S.C. 2907, 3101, and
Public Law 104-134 (April 26, 1996).

The best bet for a response is through NARA at the
NPRC [National Archives and Records Administration,
National Personnel Records Center at St. Louis, MO]
Website: www.nara.gov (click on links to get NPRC)

Requests for information BY veterans or approved
family relatives is free but can take up to 12 weeks.
Requests for information MUST be done in WRITING,
sent by mail or FAX. There IS a charge for others,
such as employer personnel departments, but costs
will have to be determined for that first before
any information is returned.

Since the NPRC has some 70 million records, they
require detailed information such as an SN or SSN.
[my ASN was RA16408336 but the USA and USAF changed
over to SSN on 1 Jul 69, USN on 1 Jan 72, and USCG
on 1 Oct 74] To submit ANY request for information,
Standard Form 180 must be used whether by mail or
FAX (form available for download on website or by
writing NPRC at 9700 Page Ave., St. Louis, MO,
63132-5100). A veteran's SSN (Social Security
Number) MUST be included whether or not a Service
Number (SN) is included in the form.

Such corroborating request data is necessary in
WRITING to put a damper on bluffers, blackmailers,
fraud and scam artists or other perverse
individuals out to "get" others. However, the
bluffers can just manufacture their own "records"
and use others' lack of their SSN to verify the
bluffers' service record CLAIMS. Since those
records do NOT contain EVERYTHING, CLAIMS cannot
be ascertained fully...so the CLAIMANT can go on
their outraged, high-horse attitude against anyone
doubting them! :-)

One way to ascertain and verify another's claims
is to cite friends and acquaintences who served
together in the same unit...as I did with Gene
Rosenbaum, N2JTV. Or have an interview done with
an unbiased third party such as the Pacific Stars
& Stripes (visible on estripes archives for 10 Nov
2002). Or have in possession documents from the
unit or by the unit (as I do, two of which are
posted at another's website)...or have official
service branch photographs marked by the distinctive
back-of-photo information (as I do).

Apparently Robeson doesn't accept any mention of
friends who have amateur radio licenses (as I have
with W6MJN or KD6JG). Robeson thinks such are
"make-believe." :-) In that case the Los Angeles
County Registrar-Recorder is "also wrong" since Al
Walston (W6MJN) and his signature is on my marriage
certificate as a witness (he was my best man). It's
ALL a "make-believe" to Robeson if he doesn't accept
it or hates someone.

No cajones?


Tsk, tsk, tsk. "He-man challenges" oriented towards
overloaded testosterone levels and/or sexual ability?

In that case, Robeson has "no cojones" (nor ability to
spell any better in Spanish) since he hasn't gotten
up the courage to check out anything of mine, not
after five years of finding it out. He has gotten
that information more than once, publicly, in here.

Stebie would seem to prefer sitting around, doing
NOTHING but personal insults, denigrations, fake
humiliation-laughter, and almost countless BLUFFS
which are just LIES. He will NOT hesitate to call
others for "liars," perhaps because he has done so
much LYING of his own in the past?

Stebie is the ROLE-MODEL of today's U.S. amateur
radio Extra class licensee? [he is not chastised
by fellow Extras so he must be "approved by the
amateur community!"]

NOT a good role-model. Does NOT arouse any
"interest" (other than masochism) in joining the
"ranks" of amateur radio.




bb May 16th 05 01:27 AM


wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:



Liar! And it's "They're wondering".

"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!


Did dial...

Intersting conversation.

Some very interesting folks in Fairfield County.


Tsk. Typical Robeson IMPLICATION. NO details of

1. The actual authority in this "Fairfield County."

2. What was said. [Robeson will cite some alleged
"privacy" ergo he will not have to reveal anything]

3. Nothing at all on the "interesting" part.

4. All of the above is just total nonsense, a
fantasy on Robeson's part.


Robeson lies. Probably just more lies. Totally expected.

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson!

They
both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ

Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make

believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


Nope.


Actually, Robeson is "taking the chance" by NOT finding
out anything in detail. He is BLUFFING without having
done any research.


He shouldn't have to do "research." After all, he claims "A" NCOIC of
Okinawa MARS. Yet he is woefully ignorant of MARS communications.

Take a chance, Oh Cowardly One...


Robeson seems to be the "coward." Having had over five
years to "research" ANYTHING I've mentioned in regards
to employers OR currently-living amateur radio licensee
friends, he has FAILED to do so.

Instead, Robeson FABRICATED an entirely FALSE person
who allegedly "knew me" at NADC (closed for a decade)
back in 1971. Robeson MANUFACTURED a FALSITY that I
"was seeking employment there" even though I've
explained otherwise (I was, and continued to be, an
employee of RCA Corporation until 1975). Robeson
took a "coward's" route by MANUFACTURING A FALSITY.


Robeson is deceitful.

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force? :-)
Stebie might think that Scott AFB will close its doors
quickly since it is on the DoD closure list...then
"nobody can find out." :-)


I used to walk into Ray Collins office whenever I had questions not
covered by the MOD. Friendly guy.

In reality, DETAILED unit records in the U.S. military
are NOT kept forever. This is particularly true for
enlisted personnel. Few military units and installations
remain intact in one place with "personnel departments"
equivalent to civilian employers. Units can be
deactivated, reactivated, or merged with other units on
a rapid basis, their names and nomenclatures changed
(seemingly at whims of higher commanders) as fast as
orders can be "cut." :-)


Steve was probably one of those guys who had trouble holding on to a
job.

Stebie is BLUFFING when he expects an old unit of "his"
to be intact 24 years after his claim of service there.
Not only that, but he is ignorant of the Privacy Act of
1974. Requests for information must be in writing.
Legal cites: 5 U.S.C. 552a(3)(3)on writing plus
authority on information in 44 U.S.C. 2907, 3101, and
Public Law 104-134 (April 26, 1996).

The best bet for a response is through NARA at the
NPRC [National Archives and Records Administration,
National Personnel Records Center at St. Louis, MO]
Website: www.nara.gov (click on links to get NPRC)

Requests for information BY veterans or approved
family relatives is free but can take up to 12 weeks.
Requests for information MUST be done in WRITING,
sent by mail or FAX. There IS a charge for others,
such as employer personnel departments, but costs
will have to be determined for that first before
any information is returned.

Since the NPRC has some 70 million records, they
require detailed information such as an SN or SSN.
[my ASN was RA16408336 but the USA and USAF changed
over to SSN on 1 Jul 69, USN on 1 Jan 72, and USCG
on 1 Oct 74] To submit ANY request for information,
Standard Form 180 must be used whether by mail or
FAX (form available for download on website or by
writing NPRC at 9700 Page Ave., St. Louis, MO,
63132-5100). A veteran's SSN (Social Security
Number) MUST be included whether or not a Service
Number (SN) is included in the form.

Such corroborating request data is necessary in
WRITING to put a damper on bluffers, blackmailers,
fraud and scam artists or other perverse
individuals out to "get" others. However, the
bluffers can just manufacture their own "records"
and use others' lack of their SSN to verify the
bluffers' service record CLAIMS. Since those
records do NOT contain EVERYTHING, CLAIMS cannot
be ascertained fully...so the CLAIMANT can go on
their outraged, high-horse attitude against anyone
doubting them! :-)


Steve could post his SSN.

One way to ascertain and verify another's claims
is to cite friends and acquaintences who served
together in the same unit...as I did with Gene
Rosenbaum, N2JTV. Or have an interview done with
an unbiased third party such as the Pacific Stars
& Stripes (visible on estripes archives for 10 Nov
2002). Or have in possession documents from the
unit or by the unit (as I do, two of which are
posted at another's website)...or have official
service branch photographs marked by the distinctive
back-of-photo information (as I do).

Apparently Robeson doesn't accept any mention of
friends who have amateur radio licenses (as I have
with W6MJN or KD6JG). Robeson thinks such are
"make-believe." :-) In that case the Los Angeles
County Registrar-Recorder is "also wrong" since Al
Walston (W6MJN) and his signature is on my marriage
certificate as a witness (he was my best man). It's
ALL a "make-believe" to Robeson if he doesn't accept
it or hates someone.


He lacks judgement, yet he constantly passes judgement.

No cajones?


Tsk, tsk, tsk. "He-man challenges" oriented towards
overloaded testosterone levels and/or sexual ability?

In that case, Robeson has "no cojones" (nor ability to
spell any better in Spanish) since he hasn't gotten
up the courage to check out anything of mine, not
after five years of finding it out. He has gotten
that information more than once, publicly, in here.

Stebie would seem to prefer sitting around, doing
NOTHING but personal insults, denigrations, fake
humiliation-laughter, and almost countless BLUFFS
which are just LIES. He will NOT hesitate to call
others for "liars," perhaps because he has done so
much LYING of his own in the past?

Stebie is the ROLE-MODEL of today's U.S. amateur
radio Extra class licensee? [he is not chastised
by fellow Extras so he must be "approved by the
amateur community!"]

NOT a good role-model. Does NOT arouse any
"interest" (other than masochism) in joining the
"ranks" of amateur radio.



Pillsbury Dough Boy with mustache said this on his web site:

"I may have to yield to aging, but I refuse to grow up!"


K4YZ May 16th 05 02:29 PM


wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Sociopath Steve wrote:



Liar! And it's "They're wondering".

"Dialing...." Steve lets his fingers do the wandering. Hi, hi!


Did dial...

Intersting conversation.

Some very interesting folks in Fairfield County.


Tsk. Typical Robeson IMPLICATION. NO details of


SNIP

You don't live in Fairfield County, Lennie.

You fit right in with Brian Burke and Lennie Anderson!

They
both
have lot's of make-believe friends too!

Steve, K4YZ

Sorry, no make believe friends, make believe phone calls, make

believe
MARS appointments, nor make believe hostile actions.

That is entirely your make believe arena.


Nope.


Actually, Robeson is "taking the chance" by NOT finding
out anything in detail. He is BLUFFING without having
done any research.


Nope. Wrong again, but then I guess you're used to it.

Take a chance, Oh Cowardly One...


Robeson seems to be the "coward." Having had over five
years to "research" ANYTHING I've mentioned in regards
to employers OR currently-living amateur radio licensee
friends, he has FAILED to do so.


Don't need to, Lennie.

I don't doubt any of the places you said you were in. I was able
to verify at least one of them, so I will give you the benefit of the
doubt on the rest.

Instead, Robeson FABRICATED an entirely FALSE person
who allegedly "knew me" at NADC (closed for a decade)
back in 1971. Robeson MANUFACTURED a FALSITY that I
"was seeking employment there" even though I've
explained otherwise (I was, and continued to be, an
employee of RCA Corporation until 1975). Robeson
took a "coward's" route by MANUFACTURING A FALSITY.


I didn't "MANUFACTURE" anything, Lennie.

Sorry you found it embarrasing to find out that I DID take the
time to follwo up on your "CV".

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force?


I didn't mention the Air Force. I mentioned AF MARS.

I was a member of USAF MARS at one point. Gave everyone here the
callsign and dates I was a member. Your puppetboy asked for
information. That was part of it. Now he's trying to worm his way out
from under having to actually find out that, yes, Steve was telling the
truth.

Stebie might think that Scott AFB will close its doors
quickly since it is on the DoD closure list...then
"nobody can find out."


Nope.

Those records will be in tact somewhere. And all of my various
MARS callsigns have been "public" knowledge on my QRZ "bio" for YEARS.

You and your PuppetBoy have missed a prime opportunity to try and
prove me wrong, but have never taken it....Oh yeah...I forgot...It was
all TRUE! Screws up THAT rant!

In reality, DETAILED unit records in the U.S. military
are NOT kept forever.


But the records I am telling YOU about are.

Stebie is BLUFFING when he expects an old unit of "his"
to be intact 24 years after his claim of service there.


That "old unit" was a Marine Corps Air Wing and a Marine Corps
Base. Two minutes with Google will prove they are still there.

As are all of the units I ever served with EXCEPT NAMTD 1032 at
MCAS Tustin.

Not only that, but he is ignorant of the Privacy Act of
1974. Requests for information must be in writing.
Legal cites: 5 U.S.C. 552a(3)(3)on writing plus
authority on information in 44 U.S.C. 2907, 3101, and
Public Law 104-134 (April 26, 1996).


Sheesh, Lennie!

I told you over and over years ago that I'd sign a release for you
when you brought that up the FIRST time.

You never took advantage of THAT offer, either.

Big snip of snow job on recovering military records.

The fact is Lennie will never follow up on ANY of the facts I have
given him because they will prove him wrong...Again...

Apparently Robeson doesn't accept any mention of
friends who have amateur radio licenses (as I have
with W6MJN or KD6JG). Robeson thinks such are
"make-believe."


There you go lying again, Lennie.

I think they are real. They are also personal friends of yours.
They'd be pretty WEAK friends if they didn't stand up for you, right or
wrong.

On the other hand, I HAVE spoke with at least one person who no
reason to misrepresent an opinion about you.

Very telling.

In that case the Los Angeles
County Registrar-Recorder is "also wrong" since Al
Walston (W6MJN) and his signature is on my marriage
certificate as a witness (he was my best man).


Judging from what we've seen of your behaviour in this forum, he
was the ONLY man in your wedding party.

In that case, Robeson has "no cojones" (nor ability to
spell any better in Spanish) since he hasn't gotten
up the courage to check out anything of mine, not
after five years of finding it out. He has gotten
that information more than once, publicly, in here.


As I said...You've already been "outted". By a thrid party with no
reason to misrepresent his opinion.

Stebie would seem to prefer sitting around, doing
NOTHING but personal insults, denigrations, fake
humiliation-laughter, and almost countless BLUFFS
which are just LIES. He will NOT hesitate to call
others for "liars," perhaps because he has done so
much LYING of his own in the past?


No...because you've BEEB CAUGHT LYING so often, Lennie.

Don't lie and you won't be called a liar.

NOT a good role-model. Does NOT arouse any
"interest" (other than masochism) in joining the
"ranks" of amateur radio.


I guess you've missed the big message here, Lennie.

We don't want you. You have nothing to offer...You've offered
nothing, you've DONE nothing of any value to or for Amateur radio.

It really is THAT simple.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ May 16th 05 02:36 PM


bb wrote:
wrote:


Robeson lies. Probably just more lies. Totally expected.


You claim that but you don't prove it.

Actually, Robeson is "taking the chance" by NOT finding
out anything in detail. He is BLUFFING without having
done any research.


He shouldn't have to do "research." After all, he claims "A" NCOIC

of
Okinawa MARS. Yet he is woefully ignorant of MARS communications.


Nope. I was wrong about "Q" signal useage in REGULAR military
communications.

So far, the rest is rantrot of yours. Oh well.

Robeson is deceitful.


You claim that but you don't prove it.

Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address

for

I used to walk into Ray Collins office whenever I had questions not
covered by the MOD. Friendly guy.


I am sure he was.

Steve was probably one of those guys who had trouble holding on to a
job.


Nope. Doing just fine, thank-you!

Steve could post his SSN.


Now you're TRYING to be funny instead of just being laughed at...

He lacks judgement, yet he constantly passes judgement.


Oh no...I make no "judgement".

I make observations. I express my opinion based upon evvaluation
of those observations.

Pillsbury Dough Boy with mustache said this on his web site:

"I may have to yield to aging, but I refuse to grow up!"


He did...?!?!

He must have taken that from MY site! Mine says the same thing!

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 18th 05 12:57 AM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am


Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address

for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force?


I didn't mention the Air Force. I mentioned AF MARS.


Do you know where HQ, AF MARS is? (Doh!)

Do you know which agency Air Force MARS belongs to? (Doh!)

I was a member of USAF MARS at one point.


Alleged member.

Gave everyone here the
callsign and dates I was a member.


Alleged member.

Your puppetboy asked for
information. That was part of it. Now he's trying to worm his way

out
from under having to actually find out that, yes, Steve was telling

the
truth.


Check your authentic Air Force MARS documentation. The address is on
it. Of course, you didn't know that because you've never had authentic
Air Force MARS documentation, because you've never been a member of Air
Force MARS.

You knowledge of any service's MARS communications is grossly lacking.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi!


K4YZ May 18th 05 10:33 AM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


I was a member of USAF MARS at one point.


Alleged member.


Nope. Real member. AFA1OQ.

You've been given the callsign, dates and times I was in AFMARS.
Why do you keep calling me a liar when you have the verifiable data in
hand?

I say you're a coward.

Your own inaction proves it.

Gave everyone here the
callsign and dates I was a member.


Alleged member.


Nope. Real member. AFA1OQ.

You've been given the callsign, dates and times I was in AFMARS.
Why do you keep calling me a liar when you have the verifiable data in
hand?

I say you're a coward.

Your own inaction proves it.

Your puppetboy asked for
information. That was part of it. Now he's trying to worm his way

out
from under having to actually find out that, yes, Steve was telling

the
truth.


Check your authentic Air Force MARS documentation. The address is on
it. Of course, you didn't know that because you've never had

authentic
Air Force MARS documentation, because you've never been a member of

Air
Force MARS.


And you continue to be a habitual liar.

Pity that.

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] May 18th 05 07:38 PM

From: "bb" on Tues,May 17 2005 4:57 pm

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am


Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the address

for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if you'd

like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force?


I didn't mention the Air Force. I mentioned AF MARS.


Do you know where HQ, AF MARS is? (Doh!)

Do you know which agency Air Force MARS belongs to? (Doh!)


Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.

I think the Internet needs some kind of yellow highlighter
for the brain-dead readers. :-)

I was a member of USAF MARS at one point.


Alleged member.


An "Assistant" member? Just like an "Assistant NCOIC?" :-)

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)

Gave everyone here the callsign and dates I was a member.


Alleged member.


Tsk. His "member" needs a little blue pill...?

Do modern - or even older - callbooks include MARS
callsigns?

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that. :-)

Your puppetboy asked for
information. That was part of it. Now he's trying to worm his way

out
from under having to actually find out that, yes, Steve was telling

the
truth.


Check your authentic Air Force MARS documentation. The address is on
it. Of course, you didn't know that because you've never had

authentic
Air Force MARS documentation, because you've never been a member of

Air
Force MARS.

You knowledge of any service's MARS communications is grossly lacking.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi!


Stebie has BEEN to Mars? Many times? Probably Seven times?
Hostile planet, but not much Action.

About the best way Stebie could be "in" AF MARS is to have
him stuffed and mounted in a case at the museum-lobby of the
USAF Communications Command at Scott AFB. He could become a
static display. [fits his "static" in here...lots of QRM]

I'll have to go back to www.grunt.com ("Sgt Grit's" store
"If we don't have it, Chesty wouldn't want it...") and see
if they have some authentic Stebie MARS authentications.
QRZ doesn't have his MARS calls. Does Buckmaster?

Maybe the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno will have him as a
"guest?" Kind of fits in with their "morse code triumphant"
sort of "contest." Hi, hi!

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...




K4YZ May 18th 05 11:23 PM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Tues,May 17 2005 4:57 pm


I think the Internet needs some kind of yellow highlighter
for the brain-dead readers.


I am sure your screen has highlighter and "White-Out" both on it,
Lennie.

Gave everyone here the callsign and dates I was a member.


Alleged member.


Tsk. His "member" needs a little blue pill...?


Nope. That would be YOUR problem.

Maybe the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno will have him as a
"guest?" Kind of fits in with their "morse code triumphant"
sort of "contest."


I was wondering how long it was going to take you to get to
that...

Sucks to have your rants ruined on network TV, doesn't it,
Lennie...?!?!

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...


You got all the "civility" due to you and then some for a long
time, Lennie. You got exactly what you wanted.

This road was paved by you. Enjoy the trip.

You're a liar.

You're a fool.

And yes, you're a putz.

It really is THAT simple.

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 19th 05 12:42 AM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Tues,May 17 2005 4:57 pm

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 15 2005 1:17 am


Chief AF MARS. (Need the address?) Can get you the

address
for
the administrative officer at 1st MAW or MCB camp Butler if

you'd
like.

The USAF Communications Headquarters is at Scott AFB,
isn't it? Why is Stebie mentioning Air Force?

I didn't mention the Air Force. I mentioned AF MARS.


Do you know where HQ, AF MARS is? (Doh!)

Do you know which agency Air Force MARS belongs to? (Doh!)


Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.


Steve can't be wrong.

I think the Internet needs some kind of yellow highlighter
for the brain-dead readers. :-)

I was a member of USAF MARS at one point.


Alleged member.


An "Assistant" member? Just like an "Assistant NCOIC?" :-)

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)


Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to have you
do puh ups.

Gave everyone here the callsign and dates I was a member.


Alleged member.


Tsk. His "member" needs a little blue pill...?

Do modern - or even older - callbooks include MARS
callsigns?

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that. :-)


Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he doesn't, his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means you
never did it.

Your puppetboy asked for
information. That was part of it. Now he's trying to worm his

way
out
from under having to actually find out that, yes, Steve was

telling
the
truth.


Check your authentic Air Force MARS documentation. The address is

on
it. Of course, you didn't know that because you've never had

authentic
Air Force MARS documentation, because you've never been a member of

Air
Force MARS.

You knowledge of any service's MARS communications is grossly

lacking.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi!


Stebie has BEEN to Mars? Many times? Probably Seven times?
Hostile planet, but not much Action.

About the best way Stebie could be "in" AF MARS is to have
him stuffed and mounted in a case at the museum-lobby of the
USAF Communications Command at Scott AFB. He could become a
static display. [fits his "static" in here...lots of QRM]


That would make him Ex-Static.

I'll have to go back to
www.grunt.com ("Sgt Grit's" store
"If we don't have it, Chesty wouldn't want it...") and see
if they have some authentic Stebie MARS authentications.
QRZ doesn't have his MARS calls. Does Buckmaster?


Wonder what medal in his shoebox was for his AF MARS service?

Maybe the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno will have him as a
"guest?" Kind of fits in with their "morse code triumphant"
sort of "contest." Hi, hi!


Stupid ham tricks?

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...



Jim served in "other" ways.


K4YZ May 19th 05 09:53 AM


bb wrote:
wrote:


Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.


Steve can't be wrong.


Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)


Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to have

you
do puh ups.


"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.


Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he doesn't, his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means you
never did it.


No haunting, Brain.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the information
provided you.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know that's a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...


Jim served in "other" ways.


You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 19th 05 11:05 PM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.


Steve can't be wrong.


Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.


Yes, this time. Again.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)


Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to have

you
do puh ups.


"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?


I soft-stroked the "s." It taht a Federal Crime? Homosexual
Behavio[u]r?

How's your "rank" holding up?

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.


Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he doesn't,

his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means you
never did it.


No haunting, Brain.


Hi! Then produce your documentation.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the information
provided you.


I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....


Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know that's a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)


Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...


Jim served in "other" ways.


You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


[email protected] May 20th 05 06:40 AM

From: "bb" on Thurs,May 19 2005 3:05 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.

Steve can't be wrong.


Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.


Yes, this time. Again.


Tsk. I think Stebie done tried to use "AF" meaning
"armed forces." He be confused. Not the first time.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)

Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to

have you
do puh ups.


"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?


I soft-stroked the "s." It taht a Federal Crime? Homosexual

Behavio[u]r?

How's your "rank" holding up?


Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.

Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he doesn't,

his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means

you
never did it.


No haunting, Brain.


Hi! Then produce your documentation.


Tsk. Stebie doesn't have any. Claims, brags, hot air, yes.

NO PROOF.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the information
provided you.


I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....


Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know that's

a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)


Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?


No proof. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...

Jim served in "other" ways.


You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have had

a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


In all of Title 47 C.F.R., the term "service" is a regulatory
one denoting the type and kind of radio activity being
regulated. Stebie doesn't understand that. He thinks that
the amateur service is some kind of "national service" or
"service to the country." :-)

In that case, the Citizens Band Radio SERVICE will have all radio
amateurs outnumbered by a large ratio. :-)

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the subject...

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to

let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


Now THAT will be INTERESTING! :-)




K4YZ May 20th 05 12:23 PM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have had

a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.


No, you're not

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
States.

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who live their
lives within that same Constitution.

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just some words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that way.

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 21st 05 12:38 AM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have

had
a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.


No, you're not


I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
States.


Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who live

their
lives within that same Constitution.


Explain. Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just some

words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that way.

Steve, K4YZ


I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What other ways?


bb May 21st 05 11:59 PM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,May 19 2005 3:05 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.

Steve can't be wrong.

Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.


Yes, this time. Again.


Tsk. I think Stebie done tried to use "AF" meaning
"armed forces." He be confused. Not the first time.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)

Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to

have you
do puh ups.

"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?


I soft-stroked the "s." It taht a Federal Crime? Homosexual

Behavio[u]r?

How's your "rank" holding up?


Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stinks like a lying sack of excrement.

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.

Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he

doesn't,
his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means

you
never did it.

No haunting, Brain.


Hi! Then produce your documentation.


Tsk. Stebie doesn't have any. Claims, brags, hot air, yes.

NO PROOF.


Even if his references could confirm his claims, it's likely they
wouldn't. There's a reason he was the "A" NCOIC.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the

information
provided you.


I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.


Hmmmm? No docs = lies. His rules, his logic, his embarassment.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....


Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.


Then he one sorry sack of excrement. Stinking to high heaven.

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know

that's
a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)


Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?


No proof. Zero. Zip. Nada.


That's a problem. That's a huge problem, ...an insurmountable problem.

Just what does he think we'll accept without authentic documentation???

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup

where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass"

and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them.

That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...

Jim served in "other" ways.

You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you

seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran

is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have

had
a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


In all of Title 47 C.F.R., the term "service" is a regulatory
one denoting the type and kind of radio activity being
regulated. Stebie doesn't understand that. He thinks that
the amateur service is some kind of "national service" or
"service to the country." :-)

In that case, the Citizens Band Radio SERVICE will have all radio
amateurs outnumbered by a large ratio. :-)


He's talking about the guys driving 1982 Subaru station wagons with
"save da mediteranean fruit fly" and rainbow bumper stickers.

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da double
standard.

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to

let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


Now THAT will be INTERESTING! :-)



Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served" in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ. Hi!


K4YZ May 22nd 05 10:26 AM


bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have

had
a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.


No, you're not


I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.


No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.

You quite obviously have a problem with the society that the
Constitution you alleged to support and defend provides.

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United
States.


Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


Yep. However there's no "enemies" of the Constitution here...

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who live

their
lives within that same Constitution.


Explain.


No explanation is necessary. Your on-going support of Lennie's
cowardly "Jimmie Noserve"'s rants is evidence enough.

Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.


Right after we get some of the information we've been asking YOU
for for YEARS...

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just some

words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that way.


I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What other

ways?

Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting question when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for YEARS,
Brain?

(Rhetorical question...we know the answer...you're a coward...)

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ May 22nd 05 10:53 AM


bb wrote:
wrote:


Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stinks like a lying sack of excrement.


I smell like you?

Unlikely.

Even if his references could confirm his claims, it's likely they
wouldn't. There's a reason he was the "A" NCOIC.


Only one big one...being three paygrades junior to the guy who was
THE NCOIC.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.


Hmmmm? No docs = lies. His rules, his logic, his embarassment.


I'm not the embarrassed one here, Brain.

In case you weren't paying attention, only Todd falls for your
misdirects, and that's because he's a developmentally delayed adult.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....

Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.


Then he one sorry sack of excrement. Stinking to high heaven.


I smell like you?

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


So far, nothing Jim has stated has been incorrect. He's corrected
you AND Lennie on numerous military issues, communications and
otherwise, and has yet to be shown to be wrong.

Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.

You and Lennie got to play rear area office clerk for most of your
tours. I give you some added credit for your Somalia tour, your
misrepresentation of your Amateur Radio exploits notwithstanding, but
not by much.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served" in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ.


I lucked out. The only "injury" I suffered in the field was some
sand that got in under my visor and flight glasses and irritated the
be-jeebers out of me. Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 22nd 05 04:13 PM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to

have
had
a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites

States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue

a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first,

eh...?!?!

I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.

No, you're not


I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.


No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.


Hi! I suppose you wrote "VOID" across your paychecks and sent them
back?

You quite obviously have a problem with the society that the
Constitution you alleged to support and defend provides.


How so?

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.

You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the

United
States.


Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


Yep. However there's no "enemies" of the Constitution here...


So why are you bringing up the defense of the Constitution here?

You really ought to get your stuff in one sock before starting off on a
new rant tangent.

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who live

their
lives within that same Constitution.


Explain.


No explanation is necessary. Your on-going support of Lennie's
cowardly "Jimmie Noserve"'s rants is evidence enough.


You're Quitevague about your newest accusations. Please be more
specific.

Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.


Right after we get some of the information we've been asking YOU
for for YEARS...


So then, you really are a liar. You're the very thing you claim of
everyone else.

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just some

words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that way.


I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What other

ways?

Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting question

when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for

YEARS,
Brain?


Why wouldn't he? He has no problem insulting others.

(Rhetorical question...we know the answer...you're a coward...)


Hi, hi! That's rich coming from the guy who couldn't make Dayton to
see me. Seven hostile actions? Hi!

So is Jim checking out the governments needs over in the desert? He
would be drawing a nice, tax-free paycheck.


bb May 22nd 05 04:29 PM


K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


So far, nothing Jim has stated has been incorrect.


Hi! Silly Gunny has his blinders on.

Jim constantly makes statements on things which he has no experience
in. Jim constantly tells others to be silent on things which they have
little or no experience in. That is a clear double-standard. That you
won't see it is telling.

He's corrected
you AND Lennie on numerous military issues, communications and
otherwise, and has yet to be shown to be wrong.


I recall you being corrected on military and MARS communications
issues. Often.

Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting

guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time

in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


The Reluctant Marine! Figures. Even reluctant people serve. So how
did Jim serve in other way?

You and Lennie got to play rear area office clerk for most of

your
tours. I give you some added credit for your Somalia tour, your
misrepresentation of your Amateur Radio exploits notwithstanding, but
not by much.


You don't "give" me anything. My service is not up for your approval.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on

the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served"

in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ.


I lucked out. The only "injury" I suffered in the field was

some
sand that got in under my visor and flight glasses and irritated the
be-jeebers out of me.


So how did you malinger your way into a medical discharge requiring
rehabilitative therapy?

Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?


Ralph May 22nd 05 09:14 PM




Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?

..

Give it a rest, old timer. What Steve (or any other person) did or did not
do in service to this country is none of your business.
Nobody owes you an answer to anything.

It is probably just as well that Steve didn't bump into you at Dayton. You
would have had to walk all the way back to your car to change your Relys.



[email protected] May 22nd 05 09:19 PM

From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 3:59 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Thurs,May 19 2005 3:05 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:



Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.

Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he

doesn't, his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means

you
never did it.

No haunting, Brain.

Hi! Then produce your documentation.


Tsk. Stebie doesn't have any. Claims, brags, hot air, yes.

NO PROOF.


Even if his references could confirm his claims, it's likely they
wouldn't. There's a reason he was the "A" NCOIC.


Brian, it doesn't matter in HERE.

Stebie will "come back" with "you are LYING" and make some kind of
dire implication "to reveal all to your wife" or some other
nonsense and just ignore production of actual proof. Stebie will
name-call, insult, denigrate anyone demanding that HE produce any
proof and that will be that. It's a standard Bluff.


The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the

information
provided you.

I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.


Hmmmm? No docs = lies. His rules, his logic, his embarassment.


Mere "details," Brian. Those are all "in his wallet" and "he
doesn't
have to show them" to anybody. :-)


Dates...times...places...callsigns....

Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.


Then he one sorry sack of excrement. Stinking to high heaven.


Not in Stebieland. He be perfumed there. :-)


You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know

that's a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)

Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?


No proof. Zero. Zip. Nada.


That's a problem. That's a huge problem, ...an insurmountable

problem.

Just what does he think we'll accept without authentic

documentation???

His "word!" insert several lines of hyena laffing in here

:-)


Jim served in "other" ways.

You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you

seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran

is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have

had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


In all of Title 47 C.F.R., the term "service" is a regulatory
one denoting the type and kind of radio activity being
regulated. Stebie doesn't understand that. He thinks that
the amateur service is some kind of "national service" or
"service to the country." :-)

In that case, the Citizens Band Radio SERVICE will have all radio
amateurs outnumbered by a large ratio. :-)


He's talking about the guys driving 1982 Subaru station wagons with
"save da mediteranean fruit fly" and rainbow bumper stickers.


I think that Stebie's fanciful imagination was working overtime when
he got to the "presidential service" bit! :-)

Since FDR's time, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter,
Reagan, Nixon, Ford, and G.H.W. Bush *ALL* served in the U.S.
military
but long before Stebie's alleged USMC "career." That's NINE U.S.
Presidents. I don't think any one of them had an amateur radio
license!

Clinton did NOT serve IN the U.S. military and Dubya never got
beyond the Air Guard. I don't think either one of them had an
amateur radio license. But Stebie gots an Extra AMATEUR license
so he is "comparable" in "service" to at least NINE U.S.
Presidents!!!

Geezus H. Cottonpicker, Stebie done stretched things out so FAR
that his comparison rubber BROKE. Stebie has SNAPPED.

This Memorial Day I'll do what I think on HONORING the veterans
of the United States military. You have and I have. I will
mention Cpl Elmer Hardy and Capt Jim Tomlinson, both gone
suddenly on the 1st of July, 1950, both members of *MY* Signal
Battalion (the one I served in). I will HONOR them and the
other 18 members of MY Battalion who lost their lives in the
same crash in Korea...sent there from the "rear-area" of Japan
by Gen MacArthur to improve communications after the North
Koreans invaded South Korea.

Stebie is going to say I "dishonor" them by mentioning them.
He has stated that before and that is just as damnably FALSE
as anything he has ever babbled. Normally I would have told
Stebie ("Mr. Seven Hostile Actions") to Go To Hell. He is
already there. Scroom.

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


Jimmie Noserve never worked any REAL radio communications beyond
amateur hobby stuff. He never took any Oath on being inducted
and never even got to "dine with the Captain" (on an aircraft
carrier) and being "served by drudges." He never ever had any
worries that anyone on the "other side" would harm his precious
being. He could sit back and laff and laff at the "errors" of
getting wrong USSR aircraft nomenclature and poke fun at no-coders
doing REAL COMMUNICATIONS just a few flying hours away from
hostiles.


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to

let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


Now THAT will be INTERESTING! :-)


Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.


They are the "elite" and shouldn't risk their precious bodies in
any way. We are the "drudges" that Kellie talks about, the lower
class, not near as ELITE as the No-Serves.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served" in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ. Hi!


I'll follow "Kizzie's salute" and spit in THEIR O.J. Foggem!

A respectful salute to you, Brian, as one veteran to another.




[email protected] May 22nd 05 09:31 PM

From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
wrote:
For years and years the ARRL has emphasized morsemanship
over and above all other skills in amateur radio.


How, Len?

Let's look at some examples...


Policy:

In 1953, when the FCC opened all amateur operating privileges to all

US
radio amateurs except Novices and Technicians, ARRL did not
try to require more code testing for full privileges.


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


In 1963, in its original "incentive licensing" proposal to FCC, ARRL
proposed that full privileges be available only to Advanced and

Extra
licensees, and that the Advanced be reopened to new issues. This

meant
that full priviliges would require more written testing but not more
code testing.


I advocate that full privs be established for 90WPM tested amateurs.
Got any??? Privs for those not able to achieve 90WPM will be
reassigned to the BPL bands. Idiot!


As Jimmie Noserve likes to put it, "that's simply 'untrue'." :-)

Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur radio
license.


Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.

N2EY is so full of EXTRA excrement that I just can't allow the rest of
his original post to be quoted. You offend thinking people unlike any
"off color" callsign that you would care to strike.


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.




[email protected] May 23rd 05 01:04 AM

From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:29 am

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:


Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


So far, nothing Jim has stated has been incorrect.


Hi! Silly Gunny has his blinders on.


Well I sort of thought those blinder improved Stebie's
looks...kind of softened the fierce scowl he always shows
in pictures. [I do wish he would have a dentist work over
his teeth so he could smile in those photos...]

Jim constantly makes statements on things which he has no experience
in. Jim constantly tells others to be silent on things which they

have
little or no experience in. That is a clear double-standard. That

you
won't see it is telling.


Tsk. Jimmie has played with some surplus military radios
and suddenly becomes "expert" enough to "correct" others who
have worked with them...like AN/PRC-104s and AN/PRC-119s.

Jimmie made a bunch of "guru observations" of the aerospace
business a year or so ago, yet he's not told of which
companies those were...or the government branch where he was
employed as a "space expert."

Jimmie claims to be a "radio manufacturer" (!) yet there is
no record of such a business in the business journals. He
DID show pictures of a klugy vacuum tube transmitter that was
supposed to be "state of the art"...and built in the 1990s.

He's corrected
you AND Lennie on numerous military issues, communications and
otherwise, and has yet to be shown to be wrong.


I recall you being corrected on military and MARS communications
issues. Often.


Tsk. Again, it's a point-of-view. To Stebie he NEVER makes
mistakes. [he won't admit to such at any rate...]

Everyone ELSE LIES if they disagree with heroic Stebie.


Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting

guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back

and
make the calls.


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time

in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


The Reluctant Marine! Figures. Even reluctant people serve. So how
did Jim serve in other way?


Tsk. Stebie was GROUND crew.

Tsk, tsk, Stebie "wasn't real happy to be..." Poor baby.

Wow, "Pave Low!" Stebie sounds like he was reading old
Aviation Week & Space Technology magazines that are in
the CAP orderly room? :-) HELICOPTER. Wings rotate.

You and Lennie got to play rear area office clerk for most of

your
tours. I give you some added credit for your Somalia tour, your
misrepresentation of your Amateur Radio exploits notwithstanding,

but
not by much.


You don't "give" me anything. My service is not up for your approval.


Nor mine. I went where I was assigned. Anyone can see where at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment

Jimmie Noserve never understood that a while ago. He thought
anyone could go on up to the "front lines" and "fight" whenever
they wanted to. [he must see a lot of movies...]


Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on

the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served"

in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ.


I lucked out. The only "injury" I suffered in the field was

some
sand that got in under my visor and flight glasses and irritated the
be-jeebers out of me.


So how did you malinger your way into a medical discharge requiring
rehabilitative therapy?


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Stebie SLIPPED UP in his story generation!

This casts a great lot of DOUBT on his "medical discharge"
claims!

Of course, "medical discharge" can also be for PSYCHIATRIC
reasons.

Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home

alive
instead of in a bag.


"Colleagues?!?" GROUND crew wre exposed to "hostile fire?"

People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ

tissue.

True enough.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?


I'm wondering the same thing...but will never get Jimmie to tell
what it is. shrug




[email protected] May 23rd 05 01:08 AM

From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:13 am

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to

have had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites

States
Military. He had other more important things to do like

pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first,

eh...?!?!

I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.

No, you're not

I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.


No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.


Hi! I suppose you wrote "VOID" across your paychecks and sent them
back?


He probably sent them all to the ARRL Truss Fund. :-)

I wonder if Stebie has bothered to study recent USA history?
He left out FOUR Presidents who served in the military since
FDR...and I'm not counting Dubya.

You quite obviously have a problem with the society that the
Constitution you alleged to support and defend provides.


How so?


Somebody ought to break the news to Stebie, might as well be
me...

STEBIE, NOW HEAR THIS...

NO CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES ACKNOWLEDGES YOU AS EMPEROR,
LEADER, PLENTY-POTENT-ATE, OR EVEN "ANCOIC" OF ANYONE ELSE.

CLIK

Poor fella thinks the Constitution of the USA has some kind of
paragraph saying "everyone has to abide by this wanna-be Dill
Sergeant (with the pursed, pickled lips and sour disposition).

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.

You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the

United
States.

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


Yep. However there's no "enemies" of the Constitution here...


So why are you bringing up the defense of the Constitution here?


Sorry, Brian, Stebie IS the Constitution! Hi, hi!

You really ought to get your stuff in one sock before starting off on

a
new rant tangent.


Looks like an internal battle among his personalities...one shouted
out of turn...

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who live

their
lives within that same Constitution.

Explain.


No explanation is necessary. Your on-going support of Lennie's
cowardly "Jimmie Noserve"'s rants is evidence enough.


You're Quitevague about your newest accusations. Please be more
specific.


Tsk. Stebie IS the Constitution! :-)

Saying anything against Stebie is Sedition, Treason Against
The State!!!

Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.


Right after we get some of the information we've been asking

YOU
for for YEARS...


So then, you really are a liar. You're the very thing you claim of
everyone else.


Ah, not quite from Stebie's point of view. In his distorted view
Stebie is "always truthful" but everyone who doesn't like him is
a "LIAR," "deceitful," "hates ham radio," and/or has underarm odor.


So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just

some words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that way.

I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What other

ways?

Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting question

when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for

YEARS,
Brain?


Why wouldn't he? He has no problem insulting others.


Tsk, now Jimmie Noserve is going to be furious! Jimmie "NEVER"
"insults" anyone...all he does is "point out mistakes" that
"others do." :-)

(Rhetorical question...we know the answer...you're a coward...)


Hi, hi! That's rich coming from the guy who couldn't make Dayton to
see me. Seven hostile actions? Hi!


Tsk. Readers are still unaware of Stebie's mighty warrior acts
WHEN and WHERE of those "seven hostile actions!"

Maybe they were "special ops" and veddy, veddy "secret" that
Stebie can't reveal? :-)

[gosh, maybe we can hear one of his "HALO Drop" stories?]

So is Jim checking out the governments needs over in the desert? He
would be drawing a nice, tax-free paycheck.


Jimmie is "serving in other ways" by defending the Constitution
of the ARRL...against all enemies, especially the domestic
no-coders. Plus he is probably training for another marathon,
another "service for his country." Hi, hi!

That and keeping his Time Machine running so he can jump back
to times when Kode was King in raddio. "Important national
service," you bet! :-)

insert eight lines of all-caps hyena laghter here




[email protected] May 23rd 05 02:27 AM

From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 22 2005 2:53 am

bb wrote:
wrote:



Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


Whoa, there, "SEA STALLION."

The CH-53A to CH-53D are called "Sea Stallion," NOT "Pave Low."
CH-53E is called "Super Sea Stallion."

The "Pave Low" is the MH-53E through O suffix, operated mostly
by the USAF. More specifially "Pave Low II" to "Pave Low VI."

The "CH" in the type designation stands for Cargo, Helicopter.

The CH-53A through CH-53D are CARGO HAULERS.

Some of the MH-53s are into special ops. But, the Sea Stallion
is basically a CARGO HAULER, first operational in 1966.

Took only a few minutes on the Internet to check that out.

Now, heroic "seven hostile actions" veteran, what exactly ARE
you trying to foist over on everyone with a CARGO HAULER, and
whatinhell does that have to do with AMATEUR RADIO?!?!?

As usual, the "seven hotile actions" hero is running another
reputation SCAM on everyone. Significant OMISSIONS of information
along with an outright LIE on aircraft names versus type number.

If you are going to LIE, BLUFF, SCAM, try to get your military
nomenclature CORRECT. You did NOT do so! Stand down.

That is all. Dismissed.




K4YZ May 23rd 05 12:38 PM


wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 22 2005 2:53 am

bb wrote:
wrote:


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time

in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


Whoa, there, "SEA STALLION."

The CH-53A to CH-53D are called "Sea Stallion," NOT "Pave Low."
CH-53E is called "Super Sea Stallion."


No screaming eagle, huh, rear area gutless one...?!?!

Ya think that MAYBE that's why I said "...the MC version of
the Pave Low..."...?!?!

Brain was in the Air Force. That's why the cross-reference.

The "Pave Low" is the MH-53E through O suffix, operated mostly
by the USAF. More specifially "Pave Low II" to "Pave Low VI."


Amazing how "smart" you are with the click of a mouse, eh...?!?!

Too bad you can't retain some of that...

The "CH" in the type designation stands for Cargo, Helicopter.


Very good....Still not any "smoking gun", though...

The CH-53A through CH-53D are CARGO HAULERS.


As is the CH53E Super Sea Stallion, on which I was qual'ed.

Some of the MH-53s are into special ops. But, the Sea Stallion
is basically a CARGO HAULER, first operational in 1966.


Actually first operational in 1965.

The "CARGO HAULER" was used for "special ops" through out it's
career too, Lennie. That's why the USMC had them fitted with VULCAN's,
-50's, etc.

That's also why the USMC fit's them for vertical envelopment.

The USMC, The Air Force and the Navy all used them for SpecOp
insertions, Maritime patrol, security-of-the seas missions.

Took only a few minutes on the Internet to check that out.


Sure did.

Guess what else...?!?!

The airframe comes off the same production line at Sikorsky at
Stratford, CT.

The same airframe...Over 80% interchangeable.

And the missions of the CH-53 (ALL variants) far exceed "CARGO
HAULING".

Of course you didn't know that because the scope of your knowledge
stopped at your wrist.

Now, heroic "seven hostile actions" veteran, what exactly ARE
you trying to foist over on everyone with a CARGO HAULER, and
whatinhell does that have to do with AMATEUR RADIO?!?!?

As usual, the "seven hotile actions" hero is running another
reputation SCAM on everyone. Significant OMISSIONS of information
along with an outright LIE on aircraft names versus type number.


I didn't lie about a single thing, Lennie.

If you want a REAL education, you should read some of the
histories of the USMC's various Sea Stallion units...Most notably
HMH-462, HMH-464, HMH-363 and HMH-361.

I was in all except 464 at one time or another.

Take the time to do some research and you'll find a few of those
"seven hostile actions" you claim I never participated in.

If you are going to LIE, BLUFF, SCAM, try to get your military
nomenclature CORRECT.


I did so. Absolutely correct.

You did NOT do so!


Leonard H. Anderson has uttered another falsehood. Why does he
insist on doing that?

Stand down.


You do not now have, nor did you ever, nor will you ever have the
authority, expertise, training, experience or qualifications to give me
an order or to imply you are giving me an order.

The service history and deployment of the CH53-series aircraft is
yet another "field" in which YOUR "experience" is from a mouse click.

I was there. You were not.

You're just TOO inadequate.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ May 23rd 05 12:53 PM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:29 am


The Reluctant Marine! Figures. Even reluctant people serve. So

how
did Jim serve in other way?


Tsk. Stebie was GROUND crew.


Steve was an Avionics Technician. MOS's 6612, 6616 and 6323. (And
B-Billet 8981...)

Care to figure out from what MOS's (among others...) the USMC
get's it's Enlisted Aircrews, Lennie?

You don't "give" me anything. My service is not up for your

approval.

Nor mine. I went where I was assigned. Anyone can see where at:


Both of your service's ARE "up for approval"...You put it there.

You certainly take liberties with "approving" mine.

Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home

alive
instead of in a bag.


"Colleagues?!?" GROUND crew wre exposed to "hostile fire?"


If you think that my "maintenance" MOS meant I never left the
ground, you've once again demonstrated your complete and utter lack of
knowledge and experience on yet another topic, Lennie.

Since you're so busy mouse-clicking lately, why don't you avail
yourself of some knowledge on USN/USMC Enlisted Aircrew training and
deployment, Lennie...?!?!

You're making yet another fool out of yourself otherwise...As if
THAT is news...

Putz.

Seve, K4YZ


K4YZ May 23rd 05 01:52 PM


wrote:

This Memorial Day I'll do what I think on HONORING the veterans
of the United States military.


You will "honor" no one until you've published an unequivocal
apology for your cowardly and snivveling attempts to use the sacrifices
of others in order to embellish what was an unremarkable tour of duty
in the Army.

Such as:

I will mention Cpl Elmer Hardy and Capt Jim Tomlinson, both gone
suddenly on the 1st of July, 1950, both members of *MY* Signal
Battalion (the one I served in).


They were not members of "YOUR" signal batallion, Lennie.

You were still in the States when they died. A civilian.

I will HONOR them and the
other 18 members of MY Battalion who lost their lives in the
same crash in Korea...sent there from the "rear-area" of Japan
by Gen MacArthur to improve communications after the North
Koreans invaded South Korea.


And you were STILL not a member of THEIR signal batallion.

You were still in the States when they died. A civilian.

Stebie is going to say I "dishonor" them by mentioning them.


No, I do not state, nor have I EVER stated, that you dishonor
them by "mentioning" them.

What I DO state is that you try to embellish your own character
with THEIR scarifices, just like you did in the foregoing three
paragraphs.

Just like I've been saying all along....

He has stated that before and that is just as damnably FALSE
as anything he has ever babbled. Normally I would have told
Stebie ("Mr. Seven Hostile Actions") to Go To Hell. He is
already there. Scroom.


"Hell" is where people who try to embellish their own meager
"service" by trying to associate themselves with MEN who died three
years earlier go, Lennie...

Put on that NOMEX underwear, Lennie.

You did it before...You did it today...Just like I said you had.

Thanks for proving me right again...

A respectful salute to you, Brian, as one veteran to another.


At least Brian got a shot at some real live-fire service...(pun
not intended)

YOU are just the fire-and-brimstone service...

LenIjustTriedToPolishUpMyrecordAgainAnderson@ieee. org

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ


bb May 24th 05 12:20 AM


Ralph wrote:
Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home

alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ

tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?

.

Give it a rest, old timer.


I'm no old-timer. In ham years I'm a young pup. I've been licensed
less than 20 years to prove it.

What Steve (or any other person) did or did not
do in service to this country is none of your business.
Nobody owes you an answer to anything.


Ordinarily, I would agree. However, Steve has demanded such
information from myself and others. What I have done is placed his
demands and his rules back on him. He squirms in his new role.

It is probably just as well that Steve didn't bump into you at

Dayton. You
would have had to walk all the way back to your car to change your

Relys.

Welp, he was the one who set up the meeting. I didn't feel right about
meeting up with a disabled veteran; apparently it was his long felt
desire. But where the rubber meets the road, he got a flat.


bb May 24th 05 12:31 AM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
wrote:
For years and years the ARRL has emphasized morsemanship
over and above all other skills in amateur radio.

How, Len?

Let's look at some examples...


Policy:

In 1953, when the FCC opened all amateur operating privileges to

all
US
radio amateurs except Novices and Technicians, ARRL did not
try to require more code testing for full privileges.


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)


He may have lusted in his heart, but he is no peanut farmer.

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


Hey, you went through the IGY57/58. Did you notice anything unusual
about the propagation?

In 1963, in its original "incentive licensing" proposal to FCC,

ARRL
proposed that full privileges be available only to Advanced and

Extra
licensees, and that the Advanced be reopened to new issues. This

meant
that full priviliges would require more written testing but not

more
code testing.


I advocate that full privs be established for 90WPM tested amateurs.
Got any??? Privs for those not able to achieve 90WPM will be
reassigned to the BPL bands. Idiot!


As Jimmie Noserve likes to put it, "that's simply 'untrue'." :-)

Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.


These clowns have no problem denying amateur privs to people who cannot
attain 5, 13, or 20wpm rates. I wish to set the bar higher than they
can attain and deny privs to them. That is all.

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur radio
license.


Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the

ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


I guess "Extra-wipe" was a bit strong. So sorry.

Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.


History Prof Jim is a revisionist.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.


Oh, please. You know how these guys are about documentation. Long on
demands, short on product.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.


The train was leaving the station. Toot-toot. They had to jump aboard
or get left behind.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.


Not only that, but the FCC doesn't appear to be looking at the ARRL in
any leadership capacity.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.


Don't confuse them with the facts

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.


Ask him how far it is to the moon. Hi!

N2EY is so full of EXTRA excrement that I just can't allow the rest

of
his original post to be quoted. You offend thinking people unlike

any
"off color" callsign that you would care to strike.


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."


Ever since I pointed out that his comment "A morse code exam would be a
barrier to morse code use" was exactly our point, he's gotten Extra
defensive and ultra-sensitive.

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.



I especially like his vision of an active amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi! What a vision! What a revision!!!

bb


bb May 24th 05 12:39 AM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:29 am


The Reluctant Marine! Figures. Even reluctant people serve. So

how
did Jim serve in other way?


Tsk. Stebie was GROUND crew.


Steve was an Avionics Technician. MOS's 6612, 6616 and 6323.

(And
B-Billet 8981...)

Care to figure out from what MOS's (among others...) the USMC
get's it's Enlisted Aircrews, Lennie?


Are those "box-kicking" MOS's?

You don't "give" me anything. My service is not up for your

approval.

Nor mine. I went where I was assigned. Anyone can see where

at:

Both of your service's ARE "up for approval"...You put it

there.

You certainly take liberties with "approving" mine.


Nope. You've continually denigrated my service and Len's with REMF and
box-kicker descriptions.

Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home

alive
instead of in a bag.


"Colleagues?!?" GROUND crew wre exposed to "hostile fire?"


If you think that my "maintenance" MOS meant I never left the
ground, you've once again demonstrated your complete and utter lack

of
knowledge and experience on yet another topic, Lennie.


Test flight mike?


bb May 24th 05 12:50 AM


wrote:
From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:13 am

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to

have had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites

States
Military. He had other more important things to do like

pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first,

eh...?!?!

I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.

No, you're not

I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.

No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.


Hi! I suppose you wrote "VOID" across your paychecks and sent them
back?


He probably sent them all to the ARRL Truss Fund. :-)

I wonder if Stebie has bothered to study recent USA history?
He left out FOUR Presidents who served in the military since
FDR...and I'm not counting Dubya.


He's not too bright. He thought he was heading somewhere with that.

You quite obviously have a problem with the society that the
Constitution you alleged to support and defend provides.


How so?


Somebody ought to break the news to Stebie, might as well be
me...

STEBIE, NOW HEAR THIS...

NO CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES ACKNOWLEDGES YOU AS EMPEROR,
LEADER, PLENTY-POTENT-ATE, OR EVEN "ANCOIC" OF ANYONE ELSE.

CLIK

Poor fella thinks the Constitution of the USA has some kind of
paragraph saying "everyone has to abide by this wanna-be Dill
Sergeant (with the pursed, pickled lips and sour disposition).


He needs to be ignored. His shrillness level will go up until he is
able to break glass.

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.

You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the

United
States.

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Yep. However there's no "enemies" of the Constitution

here...

So why are you bringing up the defense of the Constitution here?


Sorry, Brian, Stebie IS the Constitution! Hi, hi!


I guess he thought he was going somewhere with that and for a
split-second I thought he might be going somewhere with it, too. But I
was wrong.

You really ought to get your stuff in one sock before starting off

on
a
new rant tangent.


Looks like an internal battle among his personalities...one

shouted
out of turn...


I'd love to watch him do drill, calling out commands to the other hims.

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who

live
their
lives within that same Constitution.

Explain.

No explanation is necessary. Your on-going support of

Lennie's
cowardly "Jimmie Noserve"'s rants is evidence enough.


You're Quitevague about your newest accusations. Please be more
specific.


Tsk. Stebie IS the Constitution! :-)

Saying anything against Stebie is Sedition, Treason Against
The State!!!


Flat tire.

Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.

Right after we get some of the information we've been asking

YOU
for for YEARS...


So then, you really are a liar. You're the very thing you claim of
everyone else.


Ah, not quite from Stebie's point of view. In his distorted view
Stebie is "always truthful" but everyone who doesn't like him is
a "LIAR," "deceitful," "hates ham radio," and/or has underarm

odor.

I see Steve for what he is. Impotent and angry.

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just

some words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that

way.

I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What

other
ways?

Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting question

when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for

YEARS,
Brain?


Why wouldn't he? He has no problem insulting others.


Tsk, now Jimmie Noserve is going to be furious! Jimmie "NEVER"
"insults" anyone...all he does is "point out mistakes" that
"others do." :-)


The record states otherwise. Jim can be just as abusive as his
henchmen.

(Rhetorical question...we know the answer...you're a

coward...)

Hi, hi! That's rich coming from the guy who couldn't make Dayton to
see me. Seven hostile actions? Hi!


Tsk. Readers are still unaware of Stebie's mighty warrior acts
WHEN and WHERE of those "seven hostile actions!"


They apparently haven't seen his stated desires to see me at Dayton.

Maybe they were "special ops" and veddy, veddy "secret" that
Stebie can't reveal? :-)

[gosh, maybe we can hear one of his "HALO Drop" stories?]


Impotent and angry.

So is Jim checking out the governments needs over in the desert? He
would be drawing a nice, tax-free paycheck.


Jimmie is "serving in other ways" by defending the Constitution
of the ARRL...against all enemies, especially the domestic
no-coders. Plus he is probably training for another marathon,
another "service for his country." Hi, hi!


Jim is delicate, gets frustrated when his fascade fades.

That and keeping his Time Machine running so he can jump back
to times when Kode was King in raddio. "Important national
service," you bet! :-)

insert eight lines of all-caps hyena laghter here



I especially like his trips down memory lane where we had an active
amateur radio service during WWII.


bb May 24th 05 01:06 AM


"bb" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:13 am

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to

have had a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites

States
Military. He had other more important things to do like

pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first,

eh...?!?!

I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services.

No, you're not

I must be. I volunteered. I kept volunteering.

No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.


Hi! I suppose you wrote "VOID" across your paychecks and sent them
back?


He probably sent them all to the ARRL Truss Fund. :-)

I wonder if Stebie has bothered to study recent USA history?
He left out FOUR Presidents who served in the military since
FDR...and I'm not counting Dubya.


He's not too bright. He thought he was heading somewhere with that.

You quite obviously have a problem with the society that the
Constitution you alleged to support and defend provides.


How so?


Somebody ought to break the news to Stebie, might as well be
me...

STEBIE, NOW HEAR THIS...

NO CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES ACKNOWLEDGES YOU AS EMPEROR,
LEADER, PLENTY-POTENT-ATE, OR EVEN "ANCOIC" OF ANYONE ELSE.

CLIK

Poor fella thinks the Constitution of the USA has some kind of
paragraph saying "everyone has to abide by this wanna-be Dill
Sergeant (with the pursed, pickled lips and sour disposition).


He needs to be ignored. His shrillness level will go up until he is
able to break glass.

Tell Jim to let
us know how it's going when he gets there.

You swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the

United
States.

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Yep. However there's no "enemies" of the Constitution

here...

So why are you bringing up the defense of the Constitution here?


Sorry, Brian, Stebie IS the Constitution! Hi, hi!


I guess he thought he was going somewhere with that and for a
split-second I thought he might be going somewhere with it, too. But I
was wrong.

You really ought to get your stuff in one sock before starting off

on
a
new rant tangent.


Looks like an internal battle among his personalities...one

shouted
out of turn...


I'd love to watch him do drill, calling out commands to the other hims.

Obviously you have a problem, however, with people who

live
their
lives within that same Constitution.

Explain.

No explanation is necessary. Your on-going support of

Lennie's
cowardly "Jimmie Noserve"'s rants is evidence enough.


You're Quitevague about your newest accusations. Please be more
specific.


Tsk. Stebie IS the Constitution! :-)

Saying anything against Stebie is Sedition, Treason Against
The State!!!


Flat tire.

Hey, while you're at it, why don't you produce authentic
documentation of your alleged "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa.

Right after we get some of the information we've been asking

YOU
for for YEARS...


So then, you really are a liar. You're the very thing you claim of
everyone else.


Ah, not quite from Stebie's point of view. In his distorted view
Stebie is "always truthful" but everyone who doesn't like him is
a "LIAR," "deceitful," "hates ham radio," and/or has underarm

odor.

I see Steve for what he is. Impotent and angry.

So...was your Oath as a member of the Armed Forces just

some words
you recited in order to get a federal job? Sure looks that

way.

I'm offended that Jim claimed "service in other ways." What

other
ways?

Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting question

when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for

YEARS,
Brain?


Why wouldn't he? He has no problem insulting others.


Tsk, now Jimmie Noserve is going to be furious! Jimmie "NEVER"
"insults" anyone...all he does is "point out mistakes" that
"others do." :-)


The record states otherwise. Jim can be just as abusive as his
henchmen.

(Rhetorical question...we know the answer...you're a

coward...)

Hi, hi! That's rich coming from the guy who couldn't make Dayton to
see me. Seven hostile actions? Hi!


Tsk. Readers are still unaware of Stebie's mighty warrior acts
WHEN and WHERE of those "seven hostile actions!"


They apparently haven't seen his stated desires to see me at Dayton.

Maybe they were "special ops" and veddy, veddy "secret" that
Stebie can't reveal? :-)

[gosh, maybe we can hear one of his "HALO Drop" stories?]


Impotent and angry.

So is Jim checking out the governments needs over in the desert? He
would be drawing a nice, tax-free paycheck.


Jimmie is "serving in other ways" by defending the Constitution
of the ARRL...against all enemies, especially the domestic
no-coders. Plus he is probably training for another marathon,
another "service for his country." Hi, hi!


Jim is delicate, gets frustrated when his fascade fades.

That and keeping his Time Machine running so he can jump back
to times when Kode was King in raddio. "Important national
service," you bet! :-)

insert eight lines of all-caps hyena laghter here



I especially like his trips down memory lane where we had an active
amateur radio service during WWII.

====================

facade: n 1. the front part of a building, especially an imposing one. 2. a
false or superficial appearance.



[email protected] May 24th 05 05:27 AM

From: "bb" on Mon,May 23 2005 4:31 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
wrote:


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)


He may have lusted in his heart, but he is no peanut farmer.


"Our" Jimmie is NO "president." :-)

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


Hey, you went through the IGY57/58. Did you notice anything unusual
about the propagation?


I returned to the States in early 1956.

The only thing I recall was a TOTAL ionospheric blackout
(on local midnight shift) in the Fall of 1955. Lasted about
three hours, give or take. Back-logged about 100 messages or
so which impacted the flow a bit. Before IGY, of course.
Only the long-distance circuits (nearly all) over 300 miles
were affected. VHF and above LOS was not affected.


Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.


These clowns have no problem denying amateur privs to people who

cannot
attain 5, 13, or 20wpm rates. I wish to set the bar higher than they
can attain and deny privs to them. That is all.


Didn't and doesn't bother me either way, but remember that
those clowns "pioneered the airwaves"...speaking of course of
N2EY, K4YZ, W3RV, K8MN. They are "more deserving" because
they exist. :-)

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur

radio
license.

Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the

ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


I guess "Extra-wipe" was a bit strong. So sorry.


Don't be. I used an extra tissue wiping my eyes due to
laughing at them... :-)

Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.


History Prof Jim is a revisionist.


Well, he doesn't exactly "lie," but neither is he telling
ALL the truth. He follows the ARRL Party Line exactly.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.


Oh, please. You know how these guys are about documentation. Long on
demands, short on product.


Yes, I do...but remember that "these guys" are all PCTA Extras
and have their Double Standard to rationalize their actions.

However, Jimmie is still upset about OLD postings in here and
demands some kind of "recount" and weird "admission of guilt"
over some imaginary "wrongdoing." Jimmie's MISDIRECTION into
old, old posting arguments is one form of his rationalizations.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.


The train was leaving the station. Toot-toot. They had to jump

aboard
or get left behind.


Jimmie wants to "forget" about the ARRL statements made prior
to and during 90-53.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.


Not only that, but the FCC doesn't appear to be looking at the ARRL in
any leadership capacity.


That seems evident now that the Internet allows DIRECT
communications with the FCC. Opinions of individual hams are
no longer "screened" by the ARRL for ARRL lobbying.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.


Don't confuse them with the facts


I can't confuse them when they don't recognize those facts.

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.


Ask him how far it is to the moon. Hi!


? Is he pretending to be Ralph Kramden? :-)


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."


Ever since I pointed out that his comment "A morse code exam would be

a
barrier to morse code use" was exactly our point, he's gotten Extra
defensive and ultra-sensitive.


Jimmie won't admit to making errors. It's as simple as that.

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.

I especially like his vision of an active amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi! What a vision! What a revision!!!


Super vision! [either he IS that or NEEDS that... :-) ]

Jimmie "lived" IN WW2...in his heart and fantasy...just never
was IN the military or faced the prospect of harm to his body
then or later...when he was alive and could have, but didn't,
serve in the military. "He served in other ways..."

I just can't picture Jimmie using an M-209 Code Converter and
tapping on an AN/GRC-9 to "send intel back from the front lines"
to his unit (which wasn't done much in actual fact). Since the
tanks and trucks depended on VOICE comms over VHF sets in Yurp
then, he can't be pictured using a knee key in a bouncing
Sherman tank facing the Panzers along the Rhine. Neither can
he be thought of as "working" the ARC-5 sets in B-17s and B-24s
over Germany (the two pilots used the Command set, the radio-
op-gunner was only connected to the low-HF Liason set). He
certainly wouldn't use VOICE on the first "handie-talkie" (on
HF, operational in 1940) since he thinks HF is only for morse.
Neither would he be pictured using a BC-1000 "walkie-talkie"
(VHF voice only and Heavy backpack) even though that was
widely used - and praised - by the "grunts" of that time,
both in Italy and in Yurp. Jimmie is a MORSEMAN and that is
that... :-)




[email protected] May 24th 05 05:36 AM

From: "bb" on Mon,May 23 2005 4:50 pm

wrote:
From: "bb" on Sun,May 22 2005 8:13 am

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The last five Presidents of the United States seem

to

No...you keep "volunteering" to collect a paycheck.

Hi! I suppose you wrote "VOID" across your paychecks and sent them
back?


He probably sent them all to the ARRL Truss Fund. :-)

I wonder if Stebie has bothered to study recent USA history?
He left out FOUR Presidents who served in the military since
FDR...and I'm not counting Dubya.


He's not too bright. He thought he was heading somewhere with that.


Sevie committed Navigational Error! Wrong HEADING! :-)

Of course, there's the possibility he suffers from mental
blackouts and just cannot remember American history.
Traumatic Stress Syndrome from those "seven hostile actions?"


Poor fella thinks the Constitution of the USA has some kind of
paragraph saying "everyone has to abide by this wanna-be Dill
Sergeant (with the pursed, pickled lips and sour disposition).


He needs to be ignored. His shrillness level will go up until he is
able to break glass.


Since I and my wife each got LCD flat-panel displays last
year, I'm not worried about him breaking our monitors.
I may have to sleeve the fluorescents over the L-desk in
translucent sleeving, though.

As for "shrillness" [plus outrage] at least 40 db over S9,
wait until I show a copy of his "dishonoring my unit"
message to the guys who are going to be at the Westwood
federal cemetary on Memorial Day! Poor Sevie gonna be
so outnumbered by REAL veterans... :-(


So why are you bringing up the defense of the Constitution here?


Sorry, Brian, Stebie IS the Constitution! Hi, hi!


I guess he thought he was going somewhere with that and for a
split-second I thought he might be going somewhere with it, too. But

I
was wrong.


Tsk, the only place he went was out-the-door, out-to-lunch,
out-of-his-mind. He's hard to follow, allatime being in
such a RAGE.

You really ought to get your stuff in one sock before starting off

on a
new rant tangent.


Looks like an internal battle among his personalities...one

shouted
out of turn...


I'd love to watch him do drill, calling out commands to the other

hims.

Yes, that DOES sound interesting and amusing... :-)


Tsk. Stebie IS the Constitution! :-)

Saying anything against Stebie is Sedition, Treason Against
The State!!!


Flat tire.


That "tire" still has LOTS of hot air in it... :-)


Ah, not quite from Stebie's point of view. In his distorted view
Stebie is "always truthful" but everyone who doesn't like him is
a "LIAR," "deceitful," "hates ham radio," and/or has underarm

odor.

I see Steve for what he is. Impotent and angry.


Sure looks that way.


Why would you expect Jim to answer such an insulting

question when
YOU have overtly refused to answer questions he's put to you for

YEARS,
Brain?

Why wouldn't he? He has no problem insulting others.


Tsk, now Jimmie Noserve is going to be furious! Jimmie "NEVER"
"insults" anyone...all he does is "point out mistakes" that
"others do." :-)


The record states otherwise. Jim can be just as abusive as his
henchmen.


True enough again. "Henchmen" = PCTA Extra Double Standards
bearers.


Tsk. Readers are still unaware of Stebie's mighty warrior acts
WHEN and WHERE of those "seven hostile actions!"


They apparently haven't seen his stated desires to see me at Dayton.


Maybe he just needs eyeglasses? He probably won't go to the
largest eyeglass chain due to the name: Lenscrafters. Hi hi.

Maybe they were "special ops" and veddy, veddy "secret" that
Stebie can't reveal? :-)

[gosh, maybe we can hear one of his "HALO Drop" stories?]


Impotent and angry.


Not enough medals in his cigar box. He needs to check out
www.grunt.com, "Sgt Grit - 'if we don't have it, Chesty
wouldn't want it!'" Lots of goodies there. Hi hi.

So is Jim checking out the governments needs over in the desert?

He
would be drawing a nice, tax-free paycheck.


Jimmie is "serving in other ways" by defending the Constitution
of the ARRL...against all enemies, especially the domestic
no-coders. Plus he is probably training for another marathon,
another "service for his country." Hi, hi!


Jim is delicate, gets frustrated when his fascade fades.


Awwwwww....

That and keeping his Time Machine running so he can jump back
to times when Kode was King in raddio. "Important national
service," you bet! :-)

insert eight lines of all-caps hyena laghter here


I especially like his trips down memory lane where we had an active
amateur radio service during WWII.


Jimmie might have amended that by now. Remember that Jimmie's
statements are always "correct" and his "mission" is to "simply
correct others' mistakes!" Said so hisself. Hi hi hi hi!!!!



[NOT affiliated with Lenscrafters]


[email protected] May 24th 05 06:00 AM

From: "K4YZ" on Mon,May 23 2005 5:52 am


wrote:

This Memorial Day I'll do what I think on HONORING the veterans
of the United States military.


You will "honor" no one until you've published an unequivocal
apology for your cowardly and snivveling attempts to use the

sacrifices
of others in order to embellish what was an unremarkable tour of duty
in the Army.


"You do not now have, nor did you ever, nor will you ever
have the authority, expertise, training, experience or
qualifications to give me an order or to imply you are
giving me an order."

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[email protected] May 24th 05 06:03 AM

From: "K4YZ" on Mon,May 23 2005 4:38 am

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 22 2005 2:53 am

bb wrote:
wrote:



Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time

in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D),

a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


Whoa, there, "SEA STALLION."

The CH-53A to CH-53D are called "Sea Stallion," NOT "Pave Low."
CH-53E is called "Super Sea Stallion."


No screaming eagle, huh, rear area gutless one...?!?!

Ya think that MAYBE that's why I said "...the MC version of

the Pave Low..."...?!?!

Brain was in the Air Force. That's why the cross-reference.


1. Helicopters are NOT a radio subject, let alone AMATEUR RADIO.

2. Military aircraft nomenclature, names are NOT a requirement
in AMATEUR RADIO.

3. Are there any AMATEURS operating "helicopter mobile?" :-)

The "Pave Low" is the MH-53E through O suffix, operated mostly
by the USAF. More specifially "Pave Low II" to "Pave Low VI."


Amazing how "smart" you are with the click of a mouse, eh...?!?!


All the information on the Internet is at ANYONE's disposal.

Too bad you can't retain some of that...


Not my job. Too bad Stebie can't remember to get names correct
on helicopters he has "served." :-)

The "CH" in the type designation stands for Cargo, Helicopter.


Very good....Still not any "smoking gun", though...

The CH-53A through CH-53D are CARGO HAULERS.


As is the CH53E Super Sea Stallion, on which I was qual'ed.


1. The colloquial term for "qualified" is spelled "qualled"
as it is pronounced.

2. The CH-47 and CH-54 are also Cargo Handlers, types that
I've designed test sets for...and gotten them in
production and eventually delivered (RCA EASD).

Some of the MH-53s are into special ops. But, the Sea Stallion
is basically a CARGO HAULER, first operational in 1966.


Actually first operational in 1965.


FORTY YEAR OLD DESIGN. :-)

The "CARGO HAULER" was used for "special ops" through out it's
career too, Lennie. That's why the USMC had them fitted with

VULCAN's,
-50's, etc.


Tsk...next thing will be Stebie bragging on his "special ops"
experience...maybe with a "HALO Drop" story? :-)

The tactical and strategic use of helicopters is NOT anything
close to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

That's also why the USMC fit's them for vertical envelopment.


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

The USMC, The Air Force and the Navy all used them for SpecOp
insertions, Maritime patrol, security-of-the seas missions.


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

The airframe comes off the same production line at Sikorsky at
Stratford, CT.


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

The same airframe...Over 80% interchangeable.


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

And the missions of the CH-53 (ALL variants) far exceed "CARGO
HAULING".


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Of course you didn't know that because the scope of your

knowledge
stopped at your wrist.


Not my job to know details of helicopters. :-)


I didn't lie about a single thing, Lennie.


Not in Stebieworld. Stebie NEVER lies in Stebieworld...everyone
else does there... :-)

If you want a REAL education, you should read some of the
histories of the USMC's various Sea Stallion units...Most notably
HMH-462, HMH-464, HMH-363 and HMH-361.

I was in all except 464 at one time or another.


NOT applicable to AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Take the time to do some research and you'll find a few of those
"seven hostile actions" you claim I never participated in.


Is Stebie's name featured anywhere on those "research pages?"

So far, none of us readers have found out the WHEN and
WHERE of Stebie's famous "seven hostile actions."

Hint: This newsgroup is NOT about the Glory of the USMC
or about helicopters. Try to stay focussed. If you write
names of helicopters, try to get them CORRECT.

If you are going to LIE, BLUFF, SCAM, try to get your military
nomenclature CORRECT.


I did so. Absolutely correct.

You did NOT do so!


Tsk, tsk. I corrected you and you admitted to the INCORRECT
"cross-reference" (your term for covering up your mistake). :-)

Stand down.


You do not now have, nor did you ever, nor will you ever have the
authority, expertise, training, experience or qualifications to give

me
an order or to imply you are giving me an order.


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Tsk. Stebie ought to go to work for "Sgt Grit - 'if we don't
have it, Chesty wouldn't want it."

NOBODY can tell mighty Stebie ANYTHING!

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAgaspHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH
HEHEHHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

The service history and deployment of the CH53-series aircraft is
yet another "field" in which YOUR "experience" is from a mouse click.


Absolutely! :-)

BWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAgaspHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH
HEHEHHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

I've spent 53 years working in RADIO-ELECTRONICS, not
helicopters. This forum is NOT about helicopters. This
newsgroup is about RADIO, specifically amateur radio policy.

So, Stebie, how much time did you spend in Building 82? :-)

Temper fry...





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