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"John Smith" wrote in message news Len: It is not even close... The end of all that design in computer hardware and software, when efficient and up-to-date, would be impossible for a human operator to send let alone receive without hardware and software... RTTY is as dead as CW... John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:22:01 -0700, an old friend wrote: Every mode has its advantages and disadvantages. Neither RTTY nor CW is dead. One just has more choices than in the past. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Dee:
Some would argue Latin is not dead, churches and doctors still use it... It is dead, both cw and morse, some may live to see the proof, some may not have long enough. This is the digital age. Here in this newsgroup you can find many who try to form religious doctrine over out dated specs, faqs and past limitations of the net. This type of behavior is seen in many groups of individuals, the "control freaks" are here on the web too. There is a real cult which has formed around CW, they have their church, high priests, hierarchy and devoted following, you might refer to them as "CW Groupies" if CW was the name of a rock band. The data transmission protocols which could be used on amateur radio as we speak here are mind numbing. However, phone and cw do server hobby uses here. But, data transmission of binaries, graphics, movies, etc. are not suited to either. Two bursts of encrypted/compressed packets happening a a blink of an eye can fill your screen with enough text to keep you reading for two minutes. Or, an IM protocol could be employed in "text chat" with one freq serving as a party line and only grabbing packets they are interested in... possibilities are endless... No, no one would pause at a simple cw reader, you would allow two machines to chat together, no human needs to tap a key, it is far below what the human mind was meant to do, it is akin to pounding on a skin covered drum, however, if MadMax ever happens, I will grant you it may have a use, "God" forbid that ever occurs... but then, if it does, there will be tons of CB radios out there which will be pressed into use... they will be able to be found in almost any diesel truck on the highway, and base stations in the smallest of towns, alternators removed from cars and driven by small gas engines off lawn mowers, etc. I don't think there is going to be that many hams with a key in their hand saving the human race... and you will not likely know the heroes until the event happens... the greatest plans of mice and men...and all that... But, hey, the dreams of men are what keeps them going, and there is always only a problem when they attempt to force their dreams on others--especially when the dreams become decades old... become brittle and turn to dust in the face of harsh reality... John John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:47:53 -0400, Dee Flint wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message news Len: It is not even close... The end of all that design in computer hardware and software, when efficient and up-to-date, would be impossible for a human operator to send let alone receive without hardware and software... RTTY is as dead as CW... John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:22:01 -0700, an old friend wrote: Every mode has its advantages and disadvantages. Neither RTTY nor CW is dead. One just has more choices than in the past. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Dee:
.... in the above "cw and morse" should be "cw and rtty" ... Mainly I am explaining for the brain dead males here, they seem to go into utter states of confusion if words are not spelled exactly correct, or typo are encountered... Just between you and me, I know the women seldom suffer such devastating limitations and disabilities... John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:58:23 -0700, John Smith wrote: Dee: Some would argue Latin is not dead, churches and doctors still use it... It is dead, both cw and morse, some may live to see the proof, some may not have long enough. This is the digital age. Here in this newsgroup you can find many who try to form religious doctrine over out dated specs, faqs and past limitations of the net. This type of behavior is seen in many groups of individuals, the "control freaks" are here on the web too. There is a real cult which has formed around CW, they have their church, high priests, hierarchy and devoted following, you might refer to them as "CW Groupies" if CW was the name of a rock band. The data transmission protocols which could be used on amateur radio as we speak here are mind numbing. However, phone and cw do server hobby uses here. But, data transmission of binaries, graphics, movies, etc. are not suited to either. Two bursts of encrypted/compressed packets happening a a blink of an eye can fill your screen with enough text to keep you reading for two minutes. Or, an IM protocol could be employed in "text chat" with one freq serving as a party line and only grabbing packets they are interested in... possibilities are endless... No, no one would pause at a simple cw reader, you would allow two machines to chat together, no human needs to tap a key, it is far below what the human mind was meant to do, it is akin to pounding on a skin covered drum, however, if MadMax ever happens, I will grant you it may have a use, "God" forbid that ever occurs... but then, if it does, there will be tons of CB radios out there which will be pressed into use... they will be able to be found in almost any diesel truck on the highway, and base stations in the smallest of towns, alternators removed from cars and driven by small gas engines off lawn mowers, etc. I don't think there is going to be that many hams with a key in their hand saving the human race... and you will not likely know the heroes until the event happens... the greatest plans of mice and men...and all that... But, hey, the dreams of men are what keeps them going, and there is always only a problem when they attempt to force their dreams on others--especially when the dreams become decades old... become brittle and turn to dust in the face of harsh reality... John John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:47:53 -0400, Dee Flint wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message news Len: It is not even close... The end of all that design in computer hardware and software, when efficient and up-to-date, would be impossible for a human operator to send let alone receive without hardware and software... RTTY is as dead as CW... John On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:22:01 -0700, an old friend wrote: Every mode has its advantages and disadvantages. Neither RTTY nor CW is dead. One just has more choices than in the past. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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