Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
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Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner. As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky. Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce.

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.

Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english


As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.

the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders

Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce

yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.

Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english

You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.

You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.

the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders

You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.

Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce

yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses

Wrong stupid, as usual.

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence, and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

To whit:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
Powers from the consent of the governed, -- "

Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of
SC

Wrong, stupid Marky, Thomas Jefferson, one of the principal authors of
the Declaration of Independence, WAS a slave-owner.

Inded he was as I said without naming him but of course he was ONE
person not "slaveholders" pural

you realy should try learning english

You are the one that said to this statement:
Of course, that document was written by slaveholders...so much for -that-,
eh?

You replied:

"no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

SC"

YOU are the one who said the document wasn't written by slaveholders,
when anybody with a modicum of education knows differently, Marky.

anyone one with a real education knows that it was written by A slave
Holder, not by a group of them, but I guess that lets you out


You are the one in desperate need of learning English, child abuser.

As were many
others. It wasn't just written by one person, either, Marky.

the other authors (whose roles were minor) Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman were not slave holders

You are even more stupid then you show on here, Marky, if you think
that... Adams and Franklin were not minor roleplayers, either, stupid.

Minor in American indenpendance no in the writing of the document yes,
at Adams is a minor player in that drama according to Adams, Franklin
according to Adams and Jefferson, one the few things Adamas and
jefferson agred on in later year

and none of the other persona mention ( Adams, Franklin, Livingston,
and Sherman) were slave holders at all

therefore again the document was not written by slaveholders in the
pural


shocking the lack of education displayed


Rutledge
needed the clause to be stricken for economic reasons. The agrarian
economy at the time in the South depended upon slaves as a workforce

yes of that was the reason advanced, beat then you are into beating
dead horses

Wrong stupid, as usual.

I am right on target

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff (nospam) wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
KY4Z wrote:


Boy...Talk about who's "delusional" and "off the deep
end".

There's not ONE WORD in ANYthing Dan said that violates
ANYones
rights or "pricinples" of the Constitution.

Saying anything that an_old_idiot doesn't agree with is 'violating
his
rights'.

not at all

but advocating violence against me or even against you "comander"
is
violation of civl rights, and is in many places a criminal act
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Oh B.S. go back to law school. A person can advocate
whatever he wants, its what you "do" about it that counts. If advocating
violence against someone was a criminal act 40% of this country
would be locked up.

not at all

the legal system has so broken down that the law is hardly enforced
doesn't change the law


Dag Nab it Jeff...you wound up Markie again. Now he has switched to his
lawyer robes and white wig.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dr.Ace" wrote in message
...

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

Snipped



This could get interesting folks.

nah more of the boring **** we see when the porcoders some out to play


snip


Dan/W4NTI

Well, I guess I'm a "porcoder" and I've "some out to play"
LOL
Ace - WH2T


A "porcoder"......is that like a dish of porridge? Where Goldie Locks
steals it from baby bear?

Dan/W4NTI

Gutless puke didn't even answer the question. Course I knew he wouldn't.

Dan/W4NTI

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in message


gee asserting that one has equal rights in amercia make someone an
idiot in your eyes


No Markie...just YOU.

proving my point.

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal


You dont seem to get it Markie.....Im not saying you have no rights because
the Constitution says so (you claim). Actually it is the Bill of Rights. I
object to you being equal in that you "claim" to be a man.

Based on you actions here I despute you are indeed a man.


You can't even write a sentence that makes sense.
Thus you are impossible to argue with.....because...???.....That's right
Markie because you can't be understood.

which even if true, doesn't affect the fact I have the same rights as
you do

But I'll keep trying...I like watching you jump up and down like a
Mexican
jumping bean... No rime, no reason...just jumping.

shows you do not adhere to pricinples of the US Consitituion, or to the
rule of law

I fought for Constitution of this country. I fought for your RIGHT to
show
your IGNORANCE on a daily basis.

What did you put your life on the line for Markey? Don't bother...I
already
know.

no you don't know clearly. It is quite clear you don't know what the
nation is or what it stands for


those deny right to other tendto lose them themselves


Boy are you out of touch...No surprise there, eh folks? Our so called
rights have been going away for a long time now.

in part becuase of folks exactly like yourself


But that's another subject which I dang sure don't want to get involved
in
with you.

then don't no one is making you

Your already too confused about a simple thing as your toe being
on fire.

my toe is not on fire



you sound like a bigot and ahte monger a real asset to the ARS


And what have YOU done for Amateur Radio Markie? Just a short list
please,
because we all know that is all you got.....Oh let me save you the
trouble.

1. You passed the simplest test in Amateur Radio, The Technician NO
CODE.

wrong I did pass too test for it


2. You refuse to learn Morse Code to upgrade.

wrong again


3. You have decided to spend most of your time on this group blaming
everyone for your inadequencies.

never ever done that


That about covers the basics.

Dan/W4NTI

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

shocking the lack of education displayed

And that lack wouldn't be so obvious if you had a spell-checker.

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Honus wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
news:TyF2f.418739$x96.87311@attbi_s72...

"an old friend" wrote in message

you don't respect the constitution premise that All men are created
equal

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Only under the eyes of the law.....

You're both wrong; shame on you. It's the Declaration of Independence,
and
it's predicated on the belief that government serves only to secure the
rights that we're all born with.

it is in the principle on which the constitution and its framer built
the govt of the USA

The premise is stated in the DoI, not the Constitution. But I can see all
too clearly that this cause is lost.

no it wasn't but slaveholders were included in the Contienal Congress
It was written a by a Slave holder who did include an anti slavery
clause, stricken at the last minute at the insistance of Mr Rutlegde of

Pedantic nonsense aside, my point, not that it's original with me, still
stands.