Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in
Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

It's so easy to look up facts nowadays, I'm surprised that you were
unable to find this: "A 17-year-old named Haddaway had built his
entire station from absolute scratch, including the making of his
own vacuum tubes...." QST February 1921.

See? Fact, not an opinion attempted to be passed as a fact. You should
try that sometime. But then that would be impossible for you, for
you'd have to list references.

Jeff KH6O
--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie, if it's all the same to you (and it won't be),
I'll just "see" some professional documents from RCA, GE,
Raytheon, Westinghouse, etc., on "constructing" tubes.
They've had a few years of experience in that, wouldn't
you say? I'd have to travel a few thousand miles away
to get most of that info and there's little return-on-
investment of my time to do that in order to satisfy
a league Believer. Not this week for me.

Frank Gilliland thoughtfully provided a link to an
EXPERIMENTER'S website on the "constructing" of tubes.

Further, having been in correspondence with G0UPL in
the UK, I have some further links (and some interesting
downloads) on making one's own glow-discharge numeric
indicator ("Nixie" tm of Burroughs Corp.) displays.

All that might be academically intersting to leaf
through to some...who will probably never ever pull a
good vacuum for any purpose (other than getting a
vacuous response in newsgroupie-ism).

I really DON'T think it is interesting to me to know
all about "constructing vacuum tubes" as given by some
amateur radio membership organization publication.
Tubes (vacuum tubes, that is) can still be purchased
where needed for replacement purposes. The cost is 5
to 20 times what it once was (depending on demand), but
then there's not much of a demand for those things.

"Constructing" a vacuum tube innards is relatively easy.
The truly difficult part is pulling a good vacuum on the
bulb and getting rid of extraneous gasses within. Now,
I've had some slight experience on "pulling a good vacuum"
for testing purposes and that requires considerable work
and expensive equipment. [Torricelli would be amazed at
the processes used over a half-century ago in production
vacuum tube work]

Better yet, Jeffie, why don't you get REALLY "build-
from-scratch" and go mine natural quartz in Brazil,
then bring it home to the islands and slice it up to
the right crystal angle, grind it down to the right
thickness, measure it to better than 10 PPM in
frequency, mount it in your own holder, and use it for
your super-spay-shull build-it-yourself super-duper
QRP transmitter for use in the year 2006?

Gosh, I think re-visiting the 1920s in amateur radio is
such great fun in building-it-oneself, don't you? :-)

I'll bet you even have a forge and an anvil so that you
can make horseshoes for your land transport. Real do-it-
yourself projects with a practical side!

Have you slaughtered and skinned animals, cured the
hides, sewn the leather pieces together to make a saddle
for that land transport? Does the ARRL have a
publication covering that? Why not? The Army Signal
Corps designed and had Motorola make a "horse mobile"
two-way HF radio in 1943. It was called "the pogo
stick." Of course the mounted cavalry was disbanded
before production was finished, but that's another
story entirely.

Start preparing for your regular work. Classes begin
on 9 Jan 06, don't they?

Thank you ever so much and buy, buy,

Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

Jeffrey Herman wrote:
On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in
Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

It's so easy to look up facts nowadays, I'm surprised that you were
unable to find this: "A 17-year-old named Haddaway had built his
entire station from absolute scratch, including the making of his
own vacuum tubes...." QST February 1921.

See? Fact, not an opinion attempted to be passed as a fact. You should
try that sometime. But then that would be impossible for you, for
you'd have to list references.

did you check the date?

are you aware of the current date?

can you in fact read what lens writes?

you tnagental responses are looking like stevie of number of years
back, things have not turned out wel for him

He never said someone could not make a vacum tube, indeed I suspect
that some my own gear could the job fair well with some adaption (a
vacuam system able to do metal dosipiting on telscope mirror should be
ale to manage it)

you over look the point, which sesm to be your specail forte? the tech
is anceint obselte while not usless, but certainly not of generla
interest to all hams

Jeff KH6O
--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

again where was the motivation petty officer and lectureur?

Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

QRP is for Sissies!
 

an_old_friend wrote:
Jeffrey Herman wrote:
In article , NOGL wrote:
maybe you should be reported to university if you truely cnt read any
better than you seem to

Please do. They claim to be the model for free speech.

obbviously you realy can't read ggod thing I don't know anyone attening
the UoH

Nor would you be allowed TO attend "UoH" with THAT grammar.

BTW as a abeleiver in motivation is all why is it that you only made
CPO not some officer rank...(SNIP)

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA!!!!

Yet one more example of why it's obvious Markie was NEVER in ANY
branch of the Armed Forces...

One does not "only" make Chief Petty Officer in ANY rate in the
Navy OR Coast Guard, Markie. The course work, pre-requisites,
examination process and selection boards are grueling!

(UNSNIP)...or for that matter why was your motivation
only enough to be a lecurer, not a full professor or even dept head of
Mathematics??

Who's to say he's not headed that way?

Please, Markie...P L E A S E cite for us YOUR qualifications in
ANY occupational field other than aggitating, muck raking, lie telling
and deceit, OK...?!?!

Schools? Certificates? Programs? Awards? (We'll even accept
"Head Start")

Steve, K4YZ

Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

On 3 Jan 2006 23:29:51 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

stevei other than you justlied and therefore it seems abused another
kid

I have never claim this exact tit for tat you seem to obseesed with

Jeff manner is insulting there "jeffie" or" asshole"" or moran or
whatever Len chooses to use is proper

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282

well stevie you assked for it you got it
Mark Morgan


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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

Here it is: "Raped an old friend."

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

Some things are worth being indignant about, for example" "Raped an
old friend."

Really Hans, no call to be rude
 

On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

Here it is: "Raped an old friend."

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

Some things are worth being indignant about, for example" "Raped an
old friend."

well said

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282

well stevie you assked for it you got it
Mark Morgan


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On 4 Jan 2006 18:37:06 -0800, wrote:


wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

Here it is: "Raped an old friend."

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

Some things are worth being indignant about, for example" "Raped an
old friend."

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

is is he in CQ I read that one at times but anyone that would appear
in QST is supect in my view

We KNOW better.

sadly we do

hard to believe his coworkers don't know it

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282

well stevie you assked for it you got it
Mark Morgan


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wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: (Jeffrey Herman) on Tues, Jan 3 2006 6:57 am

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in

Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").
That's rather difficult (truly, vacuum sucks)...but
much, much easier than first creating ultra-pure
silicon and then doping the microscopic areas on it to
become the solid-state device you need. [sorry you
can't build "spark" transmitters...those being forbidden
in these modern times unlike a hundred years ago]

There was a fellow who did construct his own tubes. See the
publication "50 Years of ARRL".

Jeffie...(SNIP)...No need to go any further.

In as much as Jeff has NOT used such diminutives for Len, I
wonder where Markie's righteous indignation about "rudeness" is...?!?!

Here it is: "Raped an old friend."

Or does such "indignation" not extend to others outside the
Circle of the Feeble Five?

Steve, K4YZ

Some things are worth being indignant about, for example" "Raped an
old friend."

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.