void * clvrmnky() wrote:

On 03/01/2006 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Herman wrote:

On 1 Jan 2006 16:52:58 -0800, wrote in
Now, if you want to "build from scratch" totally, you
will have to learn to SUCK all the air out of the tubes
you build for yourself (honoring the "tradition").

It's so easy to look up facts nowadays, I'm surprised that you were
unable to find this: "A 17-year-old named Haddaway had built his
entire station from absolute scratch, including the making of his
own vacuum tubes...." QST February 1921.


I love hearing about that sort of thing. I recall an article reprinted
from a later era describing how an old-timer used to build his own
passive components. I actually built my own variable resistor from a
test tube full of water and some copper wire from the instructions.

Hearing that people would roll (literally) their own capacitors from
various conductors and dialectrics really impressed me.

If the argument is that it's easier to buy a ready-to-use rig, so be it.
If the argument is that this has made do-it-yourself somehow obsolete
or less valuable, I have to disagree.

Exactly.

I'll use factory-built gear, but I take comfort in knowing that if
necessary (or desired), I can build my own gear, too.

73, Jeff KH6O WC2XSR/12
--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

Steve, K4YZ

More projection.

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

On 14 Jan 2006 10:36:00 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

dud you catch here where he said he get the posts he wants in rsponse?

mean he wanted to use his daughter name etc, since he claims he is in
control

but if he is in control the respoblity is HIS

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

yes that has

he claimed I deserved

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

and stve did not like it

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

as I said I will try to bring down the house rather than leave it as
Steve own personal abuse chamber

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

or they lack the abilty to step aside form their feeling for awhile
and give you the treatement you give others


You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

very efective indeed, disagreeable but effective

that Only thing I don't unstand is how steve can keep it up all these
years without stroking out or uffering some other complete colapse

He can't be human in any meaningfull sense

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

indeed Steve is clearly a student of Herr Geobels (or a student of one
his student)

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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

Is it?

Why don't you sign your posts like a man and show us all, Brain?

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

No explanation was necessary.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

How is it despicable? Markie has proudly boasted of perverted
sexual and other personal preferneces, and did at one time indicate a
prediliction for forceful sex, domineering relationships.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

Your on-going defense of him shows me (and the rest of the NG)
yours.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him. His response was to go on the
aforementioned tirade.

I've asked YOU why you insist on suggesting that others act one
way and then do it yourself.

You've answered with YOUR silence.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

You're here. What's YOUR excuse?

Where's YOUR "meaningful debate" or "thoughtful
intercourse"...?!?!

Where are the answers to questions put ot you YEARS AGO on
subjects you thought you'd never be challenged on, yet can't seem to
get past...?!?!

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

Perhaps they won the lottery. Perhaps I'm not the only one that
they have a "problem" with.

MOST LIKELY is that this NG has accomplished exactly SQUAT, even
when there was "meaningful intercourse".

On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

You better redirect credit where credit is due...To your "brother"
in California.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

Steve, K4YZ

On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
cut
is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

No explanation was necessary.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

How is it despicable? Markie has proudly boasted of perverted

Proudly boasted? how did I do this?

after some of the barbarian (including yourself) went digging around
and reposted materail that I am not ashamed (just never thought they
belonged her) I admknowledged them and we tried to go

but you keep making a big deal of so I defend my right to be and to do
what I wish amoug consetning adult

if that is "Boasteing"
sexual and other personal preferneces, and did at one time indicate a
prediliction for forceful sex, domineering relationships.

so what? I like dominating sex amoug consenting adults

that is not rape

and it does not cover Mark morgan caught on tape....

why do you post despticble thing about

ywhy do you lie about them the health of their families


Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

ok so you think so

Your on-going defense of him shows me (and the rest of the NG)
yours.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.
no you have not

you lied

saying that you not bring it iI did not does not answer why you
brought it up in the first place
His response was to go on the
aforementioned tirade.

I've asked YOU why you insist on suggesting that others act one
way and then do it yourself.

becuase he does not

you do

explain yourself it my job or bb to explain your behavour

You've answered with YOUR silence.

what was your question?

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

You're here. What's YOUR excuse?

what exucse does he need

Where's YOUR "meaningful debate" or "thoughtful
intercourse"...?!?!

ghe has particated in every on topic thread int he NG as theycoame
with disrupting them

as I have I

you havebn't indeed you have tried (and many cases suceeded in
disputed such threads


Where are the answers to questions put ot you YEARS AGO on
subjects you thought you'd never be challenged on, yet can't seem to
get past...?!?!

they will be answered after you answer yours no doubt

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

Perhaps they won the lottery. Perhaps I'm not the only one that
they have a "problem" with.

prehaps

MOST LIKELY is that this NG has accomplished exactly SQUAT, even
when there was "meaningful intercourse".

perhaps



On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

so what?

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

a lie steve

your self complented me on something in CQ VHF


You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

You better redirect credit where credit is due...To your "brother"
in California.

nope len is not my model you are steve


With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

npe you are projecting it i quite to claer everyone but you and dave

Steve, K4YZ

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wrote:
On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

What's "denefsen"...?!?!

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.

no you have not

Sure I have.

you lied

Nope.

On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

so what?

Pretty much shows that most of your arguments are false.

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

a lie steve

Nope.

your self complented me on something in CQ VHF

Did I?

Let's see it.

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

npe you are projecting it i quite to claer everyone but you and dave

Since it's everyone EXCEPT you that seems to be "getting it",
Markie, it's apparent that this is one MORE issue that's getting away
from you.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

What's "denefsen"...?!?!

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.

no you have not

Sure I have.
nope you have never posted anything about why you brought it concerning
me and Todd and Frank

On 14 Jan 2006 06:54:04 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
cut
is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

then according to wat you typed there everything I said or done in
here is repsonse to waht you wanted and that it was under your control

this stament would mean that you have no case a for suit (but we
already knew that) and cleary that you want RRAp to exist in the sewer

you are in control of us you claimed it, therefore the result are
exactly as you wish

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