Hi Peter

As much as I'd like to believe this problem is isolated to radio users I
think it is actually a sociological state that the world has gotten
into. People are generally less tolerant than they use to be, more ready
to litigate, less happy, more selfish and finding that laws dont
actually reflect their concerns. ie lots of stupid ones get passed.

I came up with this upsetting conclusion some years ago and was intent
on isolating myself out in country NSW and choosing what amateurs I
would communicate with. In my case those only interested in technical
discussion and the joy of expermenting. Given at the time this
restricted me to 50MHz there was a good chance that a lot of
undesirables werent interested in optimizing their stations and thus
wouldnt appear as often. (Why would you build an expensive 2m SSB
station for example just to get angry at someone?)

I think the world will generally get worse, amateur radio included.
Apologies for the prediction but I really do think it is that bad.

I have however moved to Texas in the US. The veil of "niceness" here
seems to come from the good manners associated with local religous
beliefs. There is also a great lack of person to person contact outside
of shopping and church (if you exclude family) and the concern that
walking on ones property will get you shot! Virtually nobody walks
anywhere and cell phones are the escape for those that have to drive! I
guess if you dont interface with people you arent likley to get into
conflicts with each other!

Amateur radio here tends to be held in much higher esteem than on Oz.
This is especially so after the recent hurricanes and general civil
emergency use during tornado season. (now!) 2m FM gets a lot of civil
and 3rd party traffic but I do hear occasional nasty people populating
20m. They seem to be within a few hundred km. Thats my fault I guess for
putting up an antenna with a high angle radiation pattern!

Cheers Bob W5/VK2YQA East Texas

Cosmo wrote:
I'm currently listening to 7.070Mhz. The time is 19:20EDT

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
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Hi Peter

As much as I'd like to believe this problem is isolated to radio users I
think it is actually a sociological state that the world has gotten into.
People are generally less tolerant than they use to be, more ready to
litigate, less happy, more selfish and finding that laws dont actually
reflect their concerns. ie lots of stupid ones get passed.

I came up with this upsetting conclusion some years ago and was intent on
isolating myself out in country NSW and choosing what amateurs I would
communicate with. In my case those only interested in technical discussion
and the joy of expermenting. Given at the time this restricted me to
50MHz there was a good chance that a lot of undesirables werent
interested in optimizing their stations and thus wouldnt appear as often.
(Why would you build an expensive 2m SSB station for example just to get
angry at someone?)

I think the world will generally get worse, amateur radio included.
Apologies for the prediction but I really do think it is that bad.

I have however moved to Texas in the US. The veil of "niceness" here seems
to come from the good manners associated with local religous beliefs.
There is also a great lack of person to person contact outside of shopping
and church (if you exclude family) and the concern that walking on ones
property will get you shot! Virtually nobody walks anywhere and cell
phones are the escape for those that have to drive! I guess if you dont
interface with people you arent likley to get into conflicts with each
other!

Amateur radio here tends to be held in much higher esteem than on Oz. This
is especially so after the recent hurricanes and general civil emergency
use during tornado season. (now!) 2m FM gets a lot of civil and 3rd party
traffic but I do hear occasional nasty people populating 20m. They seem to
be within a few hundred km. Thats my fault I guess for putting up an
antenna with a high angle radiation pattern!

Cheers Bob W5/VK2YQA East Texas

Cosmo wrote:
I'm currently listening to 7.070Mhz. The time is 19:20EDT

Though the poster was referring to primarily to Ham Radio - I agree with
you - it isn't limited to just radio. It is a problem within society. Road
Rage - is another instance. People never used to be so bad in that respect
either. I'm sure we can mention any number of areas that fall prey. My
original post said - the world is going to hell in a handbasket -
quick...... A good start to fixing, is each of us taking responsibility for
our own actions. We all know what the rules and laws are - they were put
there for us all to get along with. Any ingnorance of or towards any of
those rules/laws - creates problems.

clf