On 10 Jul 2006 08:36:15 -0700, "
wrote:

Radio Buff wrote:

Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

Code should not be a part of the license test anymore than PSK or any
other operating mode.

I think that's one of the problems here. CW isn't just an operating
mode - it's a language, and the test already includes one language, so
testing for knowledge of a language isn't anything new.

There's NEVER been a test of CW operating mode, technique or ability -
just proficiency with the language of International Morse. Since one
must demonstrate proficiency with another language (English) to obtain
a license, it's a matter of degree, not a matter of kind.

No Al, CW is a mode not a language. Are you seriously this ignorant?
Just about any language on the planet can use the mode CW which makes it
not a language.

You people that keep trying to make CW something it's not amaze me.
It's not a god, it's just a old mode.

Al Klein wrote:
On 10 Jul 2006 08:36:15 -0700, "
wrote:

I think that's one of the problems here. CW isn't just an operating
mode - it's a language, and the test already includes one language, so
testing for knowledge of a language isn't anything new.

There's NEVER been a test of CW operating mode, technique or ability -
just proficiency with the language of International Morse. Since one
must demonstrate proficiency with another language (English) to obtain
a license, it's a matter of degree, not a matter of kind.

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:42:38 -0400, "J. D. B."
wrote:

No Al, CW is a mode not a language.

You're arguing against experts in the field of language, not against
me.

Are you seriously this ignorant?

Are you?

Just about any language on the planet can use the mode CW which makes it
not a language.

Any language can be signed - but ASL is a recognized (by the experts)
language. Which nullifies that argument.