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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:15:26 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Dip****. If code is the only way to go, why are you using text for your usenet messages? Can you say "Hypocrite" If text is the only way to go, why do you speak? Can you say "Yes, I ar wun"? |
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I think you have to refer to people like Al as "Code Nazis" as they want
to force it on everyone, they try to make it into something it is not, they think code is a cure for what ails the amateur service, and the only way to salvation is through the code. Anyone who is not on the code bandwagon is unfit for the amateur service and needs to be eliminated. "All hail the code!" - NOT! Al Klein wrote: If text is the only way to go, why do you speak? Can you say "Yes, I ar wun"? |
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J. D. B. wrote: I think you have to refer to people like Al as "Code Nazis" as they want to force it on everyone, they try to make it into something it is not, they think code is a cure for what ails the amateur service, and the only way to salvation is through the code. Anyone who is not on the code bandwagon is unfit for the amateur service and needs to be eliminated. "All hail the code!" - NOT! indeed and I have from time to time spread any lie and deciet in there cause |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:15:26 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Dip****. If code is the only way to go, why are you using text for your usenet messages? Can you say "Hypocrite" If text is the only way to go, why do you speak? Can you say "Yes, I ar wun"? Can't you spell any better than that? So, Al. Can you tell us how many receivers or transmitters have you built from scratch? Not from a kit, or someone else's design, but from scratch? Drew a block diagram that was converted to a real schematic one block at a time where you did all the math, laid out the chassis, cut and drilled all the holes and built the equipment all by yourself? What is the biggest transmitter you've ever built or used? I'm a disabled now, but I worked in broadcast, and built telemetry equipment that is in use all over the world, and in orbit. Tell us, what can you do other than whine? Have you ever built a commercial TV station from scratch? Have you ever maintained a 5 MW EIRP UHF plant with a 1700 foot+ tower? Had the fun of finding parts for a transmitter that haven't been made for 15 years while managing to stay on the air? I found CW boring years ago, and have some hearing problems so I said to hell with Morse code and got involved in the equipment design end of things. It was more fun for me to develop a design and built it, get it aligned and working, then move on to the next design. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:49:48 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Can you say "Yes, I ar wun"? Can't you spell any better than that? A spelling flame! I'm vanquished! So, Al. Can you tell us how many receivers or transmitters have you built from scratch? Not from a kit, or someone else's design, but from scratch? Drew a block diagram that was converted to a real schematic one block at a time where you did all the math, laid out the chassis, cut and drilled all the holes and built the equipment all by yourself? 3 receivers, about a dozen transmitters. Oh, yes, and the automation system of the Hong Kong Space Museum planetarium, the old Amtrak ticket printer, some software that's in use in over 50,000 installations around the world ... But I'm not the typical ham, I've been a design engineer for a long time. What is the biggest transmitter you've ever built or used? I'm a disabled now, but I worked in broadcast Never built anything over a kilowatt, but engineered some pretty hefty ones. (Ch. 40 in Waterbury CT, WWRL, WHN, a few others.) (You remind me of an IBM HR department of old. They always wanted to know the largest program the applicant ever wrote. Someone legitimately told them, back when software was a few k, that he'd written a 3 meg program. It was a translation program with a 3 meg dictionary. You're playing "mine is bigger than yours.") Tell us, what can you do other than whine? Have you ever built a commercial TV station from scratch? All by myself, no. Ever build a planetarium automation system all by yourself from scratch (including inventing some of the technology - which is still, after 30 years, state of the art)? But I'm not going to get into a ****ing contest with you. If you were mentally as old as you claim your body to be you wouldn't have started one. I found CW boring years ago, and have some hearing problems so I said to hell with Morse code and got involved in the equipment design end of things. It was more fun for me to develop a design and built it, get it aligned and working, then move on to the next design. Since I totally depend on 2 4 channel BTE aids, I can't receive CW that easily any more, but that's not a good reason for the FCC to drop the requirement. It's not even a bad reason. But when anyone can guess well enough to pass the "technical" part of the exam, the license isn't worth much. |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:49:48 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Can you say "Yes, I ar wun"? Can't you spell any better than that? A spelling flame! I'm vanquished! Not really, I just hate needless abbreviations, and even more so as my vision gets worse. So, Al. Can you tell us how many receivers or transmitters have you built from scratch? Not from a kit, or someone else's design, but from scratch? Drew a block diagram that was converted to a real schematic one block at a time where you did all the math, laid out the chassis, cut and drilled all the holes and built the equipment all by yourself? 3 receivers, about a dozen transmitters. Oh, yes, and the automation system of the Hong Kong Space Museum planetarium, the old Amtrak ticket printer, some software that's in use in over 50,000 installations around the world ... But I'm not the typical ham, I've been a design engineer for a long time. I was asked a number of times why I didn't have a degree in EE. When I found a problem, or saw something that needed improved I didn't just run crying to the MEs. I researched the problem and wrote up a detailed report. I found the way to correct the problem, found a source for any part we didn't already stock, and submitted it directly to the engineer responsible for that item. After a while they would just flip through my paperwork and submit it to be typed up on the proper forms, then sign it off. I had planned to go to college and get my degree, but my time in the Army threw those plans out the window. What is the biggest transmitter you've ever built or used? I'm a disabled now, but I worked in broadcast Never built anything over a kilowatt, but engineered some pretty hefty ones. (Ch. 40 in Waterbury CT, WWRL, WHN, a few others.) (You remind me of an IBM HR department of old. They always wanted to know the largest program the applicant ever wrote. Someone legitimately told them, back when software was a few k, that he'd written a 3 meg program. It was a translation program with a 3 meg dictionary. You're playing "mine is bigger than yours.") Not really, but a lot of guys have never done anything more than solder a microphone plug to a cable, and then use those crappy solderless coax connectors. Actually, I'm always happy to meet a ham with some real electronics skills. I meet a lot of retired hams here near Ocala, and very few of them know any electronics. I hear the same I could through together a CW rig from scratch in an emergency, then they admit they don't even have an old ARRL handbook to look up a schematic, or any parts. One told me he would use parts from his TV set, that the horizontal output tube and a few other parts would put him on the air. He didn't even know that his six month old TV only had one tube, and I've never seen a transmitter built from a CRT and salvaged, unmarked SMD parts. Biggest isn't the goal, but a long term large project is always interesting. I always liked a challenge, and left the easy jobs for everyone else. Tell us, what can you do other than whine? Have you ever built a commercial TV station from scratch? All by myself, no. Ever build a planetarium automation system all by yourself from scratch (including inventing some of the technology - which is still, after 30 years, state of the art)? But I'm not going to get into a ****ing contest with you. If you were mentally as old as you claim your body to be you wouldn't have started one. I never built anything like that, but I did repair some electronics for the manager of the planetarium at the Orlando Science Center years ago. I have worked on numerous industrial control systems, as well. Sounds like it was a bit of a challenge. Good for you. My next couple projects are an electric gate controller, and a motorized flag pole, both with custom controllers with 100 MHz Ethernet interfaces so i can run them from any computer on my home network. I have about 50' of used TV tower in storage. I'm going to weld angle iron up two legs and use a motorized trolley to raise and lower the flag. The gate openers are a pair of used 24" sat tv jacks with a custom controller, a web cam, and an emergency open button that sets off the security system as the gate opens. I found CW boring years ago, and have some hearing problems so I said to hell with Morse code and got involved in the equipment design end of things. It was more fun for me to develop a design and built it, get it aligned and working, then move on to the next design. Since I totally depend on 2 4 channel BTE aids, I can't receive CW that easily any more, but that's not a good reason for the FCC to drop the requirement. It's not even a bad reason. But when anyone can guess well enough to pass the "technical" part of the exam, the license isn't worth much. What about the people locked out by CW requirements who wanted to design and test RF equipment? Not the "I don't do solder" types, but people with a real love of electronic design? I've always had a severe dropout in my hearing that made it impossible to listen to CW for more than a few minutes at a time. I would end up with headaches, some that lasted for days. I finally threw in the towel and went into other areas of electronics. I wanted to learn microwave communications. Along the way I worked in Broadcast and Two way radio servicing. My last job was building commercial microwave receivers at Microdyne. They were custom built from base models for the customers application, on whatever band or segment they needed, and with IF and video bandwidths from 10 KHz to 40 MHz. In a place like that you would have thought there would be a lot of hams, but I only found about a dozen still licensed, and not one who was still active. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote: Al Klein wrote: What about the people locked out by CW requirements who wanted to design and test RF equipment? Not the "I don't do solder" types, but people with a real love of electronic design? I've always had a severe dropout in my hearing that made it impossible to listen to CW for more than a few minutes at a time. I would end up with headaches, some that lasted for days. I finally threw in the towel and went into other areas of electronics. I wanted to learn microwave communications. Along the way I worked in Broadcast and Two way radio servicing. i hear you on the headaches I remmebr them from my teen aged efforts at Morse amusing I listen I can lsiten to morse all day without a problem as long I don't try to break it down at all then a headache sets in a in matter of seconds and slowly grows as I try to process the signal I can in fat qso in the mode using pc with a spectrographic display to allow me to look at the parts of the signal I can't read with the pc |
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On 13 Jul 2006 08:27:04 -0700, "an old freind"
wrote: amusing I listen I can lsiten to morse all day without a problem as long I don't try to break it down at all then a headache sets in a in matter of seconds and slowly grows as I try to process the signal There's the problem. "breaking down" CW is like listening to the letters someone is speaking. You don't break it down, you listen to what's being said. |
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Al Klein wrote: On 13 Jul 2006 08:27:04 -0700, "an old freind" wrote: amusing I listen I can lsiten to morse all day without a problem as long I don't try to break it down at all then a headache sets in a in matter of seconds and slowly grows as I try to process the signal There's the problem. "breaking down" CW is like listening to the letters someone is speaking. You don't break it down, you listen to what's being said. **** off It is painfully obvious you are nothing but ahter of Ham radio and yet you matian a license and go around bashing real hams interted in the future of the service |
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Al Klein wrote in
: On 13 Jul 2006 08:27:04 -0700, "an old freind" wrote: amusing I listen I can lsiten to morse all day without a problem as long I don't try to break it down at all then a headache sets in a in matter of seconds and slowly grows as I try to process the signal There's the problem. "breaking down" CW is like listening to the letters someone is speaking. You don't break it down, you listen to what's being said. That's what his teachers said in grade school spelling class too, "Mark, Why don't you listen." SC |
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