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Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham September 10th 06 12:20 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 
Indeed so. It is the interest and understanding of how devices
of all types function and how to interact with their interfaces
that is the fundamental skill of Ham Radio; a fundamental skill
that is markedly lacking in the CB-like licences issued today,
in particular the M3/CB Fools' Licence of Britland.

When the man-in-the-street can buy an off the shelf radio enabling
him to talk to the whole world, a GSM phone, what difference is
to be perceived from a Radio Ham who seems to do the same -
buys his rigs off-the-shelf and returns them to the shop if needing
repair?

I believe that it is very necessary that we revert the qualifications
for Ham Radio to an understandng of technical matters before
we become perceived as just another consumerist pastime by
the powers-that-be, and our jealously gained privileges are lost.

"William E. Sabin" wrote in message
news:V4RMg.39723$aJ.14372@attbi_s21...
In addition to the properties and usage of basic discrete components
(still very important) and the appreciation of fundamental principles
(from an introductory mathematical perspective) of electronics, there is
an increasing interest in the use of integrated circuits, especially at
low and intermediate signal levels. It is seldom necessary to be an
expert at the inner workings of these ICs, but the ability to understand
their data sheets and how to employ and interconnect them is a skill that
is very useful.

We probably could be tested a little regarding the basic usage of certain
kinds of ICs such as opamp, multiplier and DSP types.

Bill W0IYH

"nntp.aioe.org" wrote in message
...
I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.

Because, although the bulk of our circuit complexity
will soon lie in a single DSP chip, the interfaces to that chip,
to us at the baseband end and then to the antenna at the RF end,
still depend upon traditional electronic (pre-IC) practice.

How, then, can it be possible to issue Ham Radio licences
to those who cannot tell one end of a resistor from the other?

How, then, can it ever be possible to issue Ham Radio
licences to those of 6 years of age who lack the mathematical
capability to understand the evaluation of resistances in parallel?

The answer is, that it cannot be possible, and that licences
issued to such people are CB licences, no more, no less.

Syllabi for Ham Radio exams should resort to the traditional
subjects of familiarity with elemental electrical and electronic
components together with a modernised examination of the
ability to write software and understanding of DSP theory.







John September 10th 06 12:26 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 

"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...


Crap cut.


Has anyone noticed how he has become an "Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham"

That means he is not a " _REAL_ Radio Ham"



John September 10th 06 12:30 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 

"John" wrote in message
...

"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...


Crap cut.


Has anyone noticed how he has become an "Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham"

That means he is not a " _REAL_ Radio Ham"



Of course many would say that an M3 is an "Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham".

I can only assume that Gareth has decided to become a FL Holder.

Well done Gareth - scored another home goal!





Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham September 10th 06 12:40 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 
I feel that I must apologise for the crocodile of immature
and abusive children who dog my every effort on Usenet,
and in particular who have tried to reduce this thread to
an issuance from the cess-pit.

I have been on Usenet since 1994. In that time I have contributed
many articles on my stance towards maintaining the technical and
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. For my pains I have
picked up a series of unpleasant individuals (who illustrate
very well the unacceptable decline in standards?) who resort
to the most grossly offensive and gratuitously insulting outbursts
unrelated to anything that I have ever said or done.

I have _NEVER_ originated any personal attacks on anybody. I am,
however, only human, and have replied on occasion, but only in
defensive indignance.

I have _NEVER_ published any articles intended to annoy people
or to provoke them. Everything that I have published has been
a sincere expression of my stance on a number of areas, liberalism,
republicanism, pacifism, poetry, atheism, anti-plod violence, Ham Radio.

I have never claimed to be omniscient; indeed, when there have areas
in which I have been unable to understand things, I have posted
queries.

I have on several occasions chastised those who use an international
forum such as Usenet to publish infantile insulting tirades. I shall
continue to do so.

"William E. Sabin" wrote in message
news:V4RMg.39723$aJ.14372@attbi_s21...
In addition to the properties and usage of basic discrete components
(still very important) and the appreciation of fundamental principles
(from an introductory mathematical perspective) of electronics, there is
an increasing interest in the use of integrated circuits, especially at
low and intermediate signal levels. It is seldom necessary to be an
expert at the inner workings of these ICs, but the ability to understand
their data sheets and how to employ and interconnect them is a skill that
is very useful.

We probably could be tested a little regarding the basic usage of certain
kinds of ICs such as opamp, multiplier and DSP types.

Bill W0IYH

"nntp.aioe.org" wrote in message
...
I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.

Because, although the bulk of our circuit complexity
will soon lie in a single DSP chip, the interfaces to that chip,
to us at the baseband end and then to the antenna at the RF end,
still depend upon traditional electronic (pre-IC) practice.

How, then, can it be possible to issue Ham Radio licences
to those who cannot tell one end of a resistor from the other?

How, then, can it ever be possible to issue Ham Radio
licences to those of 6 years of age who lack the mathematical
capability to understand the evaluation of resistances in parallel?

The answer is, that it cannot be possible, and that licences
issued to such people are CB licences, no more, no less.

Syllabi for Ham Radio exams should resort to the traditional
subjects of familiarity with elemental electrical and electronic
components together with a modernised examination of the
ability to write software and understanding of DSP theory.







Jim GM4DHJ September 10th 06 03:23 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 
Singing on air
Starting silly clubs
Buying black boxes
Swearing on air
Feeling persecuted
inventing new ways of spelling
inventing new Grammar styles
using CB lingo on the former ham bands



deBaser September 10th 06 03:40 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 

"Jim GM4DHJ" wrote in message
...
Singing on air
Starting silly clubs
Buying black boxes
Swearing on air
Feeling persecuted
inventing new ways of spelling
inventing new Grammar styles
using CB lingo on the former ham bands


Are you describing your own condition Jim?

Andy



Bowman September 10th 06 07:24 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 

"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...
I have _NEVER_ published any articles intended to annoy people
or to provoke them.

Oh really, what about your remarks on the Soham tragedy...and your gloating
at the deaths of servicemen of the very country that pay your
benefits...think again you sick and twisted individual.



G1LVN September 10th 06 08:12 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 

Bowman wrote:
"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...
I have _NEVER_ published any articles intended to annoy people
or to provoke them.


Accusing me by name in a post subject line of cancelling his amateur
radio licence on-line....


huLLy September 10th 06 08:27 PM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 
G1LVN wrote:
Bowman wrote:
"Aspiring _REAL_ Radio Ham" wrote in message
...
I have _NEVER_ published any articles intended to annoy people
or to provoke them.


Accusing me by name in a post subject line of cancelling his amateur
radio licence on-line....


Always wondered who that was ;)
--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
villageidiot(at)sheepandmeths.co.uk
ICQ 136-987-925



PhattyMo September 11th 06 03:31 AM

Where does the expertise of today's Radio Ham lie?
 
nntp.aioe.org wrote:
I suggest that it still lies in the areas of LC filters, resistor
networks and individual transistor (or valve) operation.

Because, although the bulk of our circuit complexity
will soon lie in a single DSP chip, the interfaces to that chip,
to us at the baseband end and then to the antenna at the RF end,
still depend upon traditional electronic (pre-IC) practice.

How, then, can it be possible to issue Ham Radio licences
to those who cannot tell one end of a resistor from the other?

How, then, can it ever be possible to issue Ham Radio
licences to those of 6 years of age who lack the mathematical
capability to understand the evaluation of resistances in parallel?

The answer is, that it cannot be possible, and that licences
issued to such people are CB licences, no more, no less.

Syllabi for Ham Radio exams should resort to the traditional
subjects of familiarity with elemental electrical and electronic
components together with a modernised examination of the
ability to write software and understanding of DSP theory.




From the posts I've seen all over the 'net lately,I'd suggest the
expertise is in having ****ing contests,and name calling. The "radio"
aspect seems to have been completely forgotten,it's all about how many
different names you can call people on the internet.






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