Here is what my response to Mr. Schleck would be on his proposed
moderated newsgroup:

Mr. Paul W. Schleck:

I would question your ability to be a fair and just moderator. I have
participated in the rec.radio.amateur.??? newsgroups, I have witnessed
your abilities and goals.

There, I have seen you and your extra class henchmen attempt to
constantly steer the course of its' flow, intimidation and threats have
often been your tools. I have watched you and others look down upon
other amateurs who will now be allowed to take a "No Code Amateur Exam."
In no way have I ever seen you be even close to being "fair" or "just"
in your opinions, judgments, statements, etc. I have heard many in that
group call the present amateur exams "dumbed down."

Here, you have blatantly lied as to your purposes. You seek a forum
where a very limited band of ideas, concepts, beliefs and discussion can
take forth. You seek to establish a "class based newsgroup", this class
system will VERY MUCH depend on the ancient art of morse code and the
amateur exam.

If any here doubt, they only have to sift though the old posts and check
past posts of you and those you name as would be-moderators and they
will know. What I say, I say with great belief.

You wish to establish a "masonic temple type of brotherhood" here in the
public newsgroups. You and a few of your cronies wish to establish
tight and strict control over this group. And, from what I can see and
guess to your goals, you do this SOLELY for the purpose of stroking your
own egos.

Many of the "weirdos", hecklers and vulgar individuals in the other
amateur groups are due to you and those sharing your same views and
using your "street smart" methods--in effect, your "control freak"
attitude and "better-than-thou" stance has created them.

It would serve justice if you were forced to stay and learn to "get
along and play well" with the other "children."

Your words show a fine demonstration of stealth and deception; I don't
believe I have ever seen a better example than you have presented to us
here. I certainly would nominate you for the "Silver Tongue Award."

However, I would certainly NOT vote to allow you to slink and sneak off
from the tragedy you have helped to create.

Although you make this request and proposal out of your personal need to
feed your ego, and surround yourself with those who would feed your ego
for you, and "live in your own little world", I think it would be a
crime to allow you to do so.

The potential you have to abuse this proposed-moderated newsgroup to the
detriment of others demands it should not be allowed ... I for one would
vote NO, but then, you already knew that ...

Regards,
John Smith I

"John Smith I" wrote in message
...

Here is what my response to Mr. Schleck would be on his proposed moderated
newsgroup:

Mr. Paul W. Schleck:

I would question your ability to be a fair and just moderator. I have
participated in the rec.radio.amateur.??? newsgroups, I have witnessed
your abilities and goals.

There, I have seen you and your extra class henchmen attempt to constantly
steer the course of its' flow, intimidation and threats have often been
your tools. I have watched you and others look down upon other amateurs
who will now be allowed to take a "No Code Amateur Exam." In no way have I
ever seen you be even close to being "fair" or "just" in your opinions,
judgments, statements, etc. I have heard many in that group call the
present amateur exams "dumbed down."

Here, you have blatantly lied as to your purposes. You seek a forum where
a very limited band of ideas, concepts, beliefs and discussion can take
forth. You seek to establish a "class based newsgroup", this class system
will VERY MUCH depend on the ancient art of morse code and the amateur
exam.

If any here doubt, they only have to sift though the old posts and check
past posts of you and those you name as would be-moderators and they will
know. What I say, I say with great belief.

You wish to establish a "masonic temple type of brotherhood" here in the
public newsgroups. You and a few of your cronies wish to establish tight
and strict control over this group. And, from what I can see and guess to
your goals, you do this SOLELY for the purpose of stroking your own egos.

Many of the "weirdos", hecklers and vulgar individuals in the other
amateur groups are due to you and those sharing your same views and using
your "street smart" methods--in effect, your "control freak" attitude and
"better-than-thou" stance has created them.

It would serve justice if you were forced to stay and learn to "get along
and play well" with the other "children."

Your words show a fine demonstration of stealth and deception; I don't
believe I have ever seen a better example than you have presented to us
here. I certainly would nominate you for the "Silver Tongue Award."

However, I would certainly NOT vote to allow you to slink and sneak off
from the tragedy you have helped to create.

Although you make this request and proposal out of your personal need to
feed your ego, and surround yourself with those who would feed your ego
for you, and "live in your own little world", I think it would be a crime
to allow you to do so.

The potential you have to abuse this proposed-moderated newsgroup to the
detriment of others demands it should not be allowed ... I for one would
vote NO, but then, you already knew that ...

Regards,
John Smith I

OK John, clean up this newsgroup so I don't have to add filters on an almost
daily basis to eliminate the constant deluge of sex posts, vulgar posts,
etc.

Dee, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:

...
OK John, clean up this newsgroup so I don't have to add filters on an almost
daily basis to eliminate the constant deluge of sex posts, vulgar posts,
etc.

Dee, N8UZE



Dee:

There I agree with you 100%. The vulgarity and sheer non-sense makes me
embarrassed for them. I cringe at the mental state they must exist in
to wish to provide such a display in front of women and younger users here.

I fear that this does not just exist in the newsgroups, here with us,
but also is becoming "something bad" in America

I can only admire you in finding the tools and having the determination
to be here with us in spite of all that non-sense ...

Warmest regards,
JS