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G.A.Evans G4SDW April 19th 07 07:44 PM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
There's another one.

I proposed a group activity, and you have contrived
to turn it, repeatedly, into gratuitous personal slurs,
completely unconnected with my proposal.

Shame on you.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

If you neither accept my offer or publish your ideas elsewhere, who could
blame those who conclude you weren't really behind the idea?




G.A.Evans G4SDW April 19th 07 07:48 PM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
There's another gratuitous slur.


"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

If you neither accept my offer or publish your ideas elsewhere, who could
blame those who conclude you weren't really behind the idea?




NoMoreSpam April 19th 07 08:14 PM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Spike wrote:
know code wrote:

Brian Reay wrote:
"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
...
I proposed a joint effort through Usenet, and outlined
how some of these biscuits might be evolved.

You very quickly turned to uttering personal slights
and have continued relentlessly down your chosen path.
Where are these "personal slights"? I offered to help publicise your idea.
I've prepared some space to do so or, if you prefer, I will publicise a link
to a website you can set up yourself.

So come on, "get baking those biscuits" or I suspect some will conclude your
idea was the hardware equivalent of "vapourware".

After the way you have treated Gareth over the past few years, do you
really think he is going to accept your charity now? You're in cloud
cuckoo cuckoo land if you think he will!


Gareth's reply to Brian's offer made it clear that he expected far
more than assistance with site hosting, and threw in a personal attack
for good measure, so I suspect your comment is somewhat ill-informed.

Here is the relevant part of Gareth's posting:

I doubt his sincerity, based on his previous emotional
history expressed in this NG, and his contemporaneous
linking up with Mrs.Nugatory in an abusive sub-thread.

What you have quoted below is most certainly _NOT_
a support for the proposal. There is no suggestion of what
the biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the standard interfaces
between biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the mechanical
arrangements migth be; no proposals of component sets.



Watching these Brits make asses of themselves makes me proud to be an American!


Spike April 20th 07 08:30 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 

NoMoreSpam wrote:

Watching these Brits make asses of themselves makes me proud to be an American!


Remind me again how democracy is progressing in Iraq.
--
from
Aero Spike

G.A.Evans G4SDW April 20th 07 10:09 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Is anybody interested in such a project and prepared
to join with _REALISTIC_ non-nugatory support?

wrote in message ...
I wonder if we who are the Usenet-frequenting Radio
Hams might somehow get together to sort out the
dreadful mess that has been created in no small
part by the self-interest of those who control
the RSCB?

Might we all act together to produce a series
of "biscuits" that could then be assembled
Lego-like fashion to produce any rig or test
equipment?




G.A.Evans G4SDW April 20th 07 10:27 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Mr.Nugatory, that is a terrible thing to say about anyone!

Please quote your instances, showing your "offer" in full
together with the "insults" that you say were "hurled"

Perhaps we will find that the so-called "offer" is perhaps
somewhat disingenuous?

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
"know code" wrote in message
...
And, I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that your sudden change of heart
has some ulterior motive!

If you look back you will see several instances of my offering assistance
to Gareth that he has rejected or turned into some reason to hurl insults
(recent example his "group up / group down" query).




G.A.Evans G4SDW April 20th 07 10:29 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Attack on circulation list by someone who wished to
hide corrected.....

wrote in message ...
There's another unwarranted slur!

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
It was Gareth's idea and it is right he should set it rolling although I
fear it has already faultered.






G.A.Evans G4SDW April 20th 07 10:30 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Hacked circualtion list corrected.....

wrote in message ...
There's another unwarranted slur!

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
wrote in message ...
There's another unwarranted slur!
"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
It was Gareth's idea and it is right he should set it rolling although
I fear it has already faultered.

Gareth, if you were to have circulated a design then no one could think
the idea had faulted. However, in the absence of a design.............






Smiffy[_2_] April 20th 07 10:51 AM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
G.A.Evans G4SDW wrote:
Is anybody interested in such a project and prepared
to join with _REALISTIC_ non-nugatory support?


I am sure that many people would be happy to join in the project, once
they see that you are serious about it and have a good idea of the scope
that you intend. Why not sketch out some rough ideas, block diagrams
suggesting which biscuits would be needed initially (ideally I'd guess
some building blocks which could be useful in their own right - e.g.
VFO, amplifiers etc.), together with a proposal for how they should
connect together - some kind of standardised backplane, a connector
stack arrangement similar in concept to PC/104
(http://www.pc104.org/technology/PDF/...ec%20v2_5.pdf), something
different entirely?

What are you really thinking of here? Is it as simple as "every biscuit
shall be either a Xcm * Ycm, or half sized X/2cm * Ycm" and allow free
reign on electrical interfaces, or try to work out some kind of standard
for general interface levels and protocols between biscuits?

How do you envision the project being managed? What kind of
collaboration methods would you use?

The idea is sound, but to spark enthusiasm perhaps you should offer a
little more than "Hey guys, let's build a radio". Collaborative projects
either need a strong lead or a good previous track record of similar
work. Even then take time to get going until people can see where you
are heading and that they agree with it and feel they can be a useful
part of the project. Throw some basics together, put a bit of flesh on
your proposal, and I'm sure you'll get more people interested. It may
well end up being you doing it on your own until the first biscuits are
designed, but then it should gain momentum. Regularly publish what you
are doing and where you are up to; a simple technical report and
ignoring those who would shout you down (or a simple technical response,
not falling down to "stupid boy" name calling) should gain you support.

NoMoreSpam April 20th 07 01:55 PM

Putting the Ham back into Ham Radio?
 
Spike wrote:
NoMoreSpam wrote:

Watching these Brits make asses of themselves makes me proud to be an American!


Remind me again how democracy is progressing in Iraq.


Trying help those people WAS a mistake. They should have been nuked back to the
stone age.


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