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"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
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One notorious attention seeker has milked the suggestion
for everything he could get out of it, and has offered no
support for the proposal at all, but is claiming that he has.


Gareth, you must have missed my post that offered to host your designs on a
website, with fully credit to you for the idea and your work.

Please, do some of your designs and I will gladly host them until you have
your own website. OR, set up your own website and I will ensure that it is
circulated to those who may be interested.

Get those biscuits baking!

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"Brian Reay" wrote:

Good luck and I look forward to seeing your first designs.


said ex-m3-its as easy as they say-osn


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Spike wrote:

I look forward to seeing the implementation of the design of the first
unit ever to incorporate the Big-K approach to DSP.



eh up..its spreading !

now brian ol' boy.... tell your buddie to GROW UP for mentioning BIG K


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I doubt his sincerity, based on his previous emotional
history expressed in this NG, and his contemporaneous
linking up with Mrs.Nugatory in an abusive sub-thread.

What you have quoted below is most certainly _NOT_
a support for the proposal. There is no suggestion of what
the biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the standard interfaces
between biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the mechanical
arrangements migth be; no proposals of component sets.

In fact, there has been _NO_ support whatsoever for the
proposal that _WE_ all act together to save Ham Radio
from the predations of the RSCB and other destructive influences.

What has there been?

Why, merely an examination of means whereby the proposer
himself might gain some attention and reflected glory from
the actions of others and to set in place, perhaps, the
groundwork for a campaign of further abuse, as is his wont.

Web-sites? SPRAT? This is merely stating the bleeding
obvious and as a claim for having supported the proposal
it is _NUGATORY_ in the extreme.

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:56:45 GMT, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

Gareth, you must have missed my post that offered to host your designs on
a
website, with fully credit to you for the idea and your work.


It's probably just an oversight, Brian.
I'm sure there's no suggestion of anybody doubting your sincerity.



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On 18 Apr, 07:55, "G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote:
. There is no suggestion of what
the biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the standard interfaces
between biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the mechanical
arrangements migth be; no proposals of component sets.


I thought this was *YOUR* proposal Gareth?

Are you saying that you had this flash of inspiration, but that it's
somebody else's job (the RSGB's?) to do all the work?

73
Mike G4KFK



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Mrs. Nugatory's lashing out in an infantile temper
tantrum now that she has been bested!

Any doubts that she's an anonymous cowardly poison-pen?

None, I think.

Now, Mrs. Nugatory, instead of displaying negative and
destructive tirades against me, why not discuss some of your
own projects and project ideas over the years? It is of course
extremely easy, some might say cowardly, to pick on someone
who has discussed ideas and possibilities over the years in an
attempt to promote the _REAL_ in _REAL_ Ham Radio, and
this picking-on is what you do. However, I think it more appropriate in a NG
for us all to contribute positively to promote the technical pursuit.

Go on! Dry your tears" You _CAN_ be a grown-up if you really try!

"Spike" wrote in message
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"Spike" wrote in message
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"Spike" wrote in message
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I look forward to seeing the implementation of the design of the first
unit ever to incorporate the Big-K approach to DSP.
Quite so. It's just going to be interesting seeing how certain topics
he's posted on in the past turn out in reality.
A cynic might say that by involving others in the design, the
fall-guys are already being lined up ready for any failure that might
arise.
Well, I still recall the FT-707 that was bought in order to implement
a DSP CW transceiver for 136 kHz.
It fell at the first hurdle as it wouldn't work on CW.
Despite receiving helpful suggestions via this medium, Gareth never
saw them due to 'an ISP failure'; and nothing more has been heard of
the project - at least on here.



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"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
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What you have quoted below is most certainly _NOT_
a support for the proposal. There is no suggestion of what
the biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the standard interfaces
between biscuits might be; no suggestion of what the mechanical
arrangements migth be; no proposals of component sets.


Well Gareth, the idea was yours and I was rather hoping you'd supply, at
some point, those details.

In fact, there has been _NO_ support whatsoever for the
proposal that _WE_ all act together to save Ham Radio
from the predations of the RSCB and other destructive influences.

What has there been?

Why, merely an examination of means whereby the proposer
himself might gain some attention and reflected glory from
the actions of others and to set in place,


Not really, if you'd prefer to "do" your own website, please do. I'll just
promote you work via a link etc. I read SPRAT and will happily buy PW if
you get published there.

perhaps, the
groundwork for a campaign of further abuse, as is his wont.


How does that work then? All I'm suggesting is support for your idea- which
I really do think is a good one. I'm happy to promote it but you will need
some more " flesh on the bones". Now, if you idea doesn't take off because
you don't publish your ideas, whose fault it that?

Web-sites? SPRAT? This is merely stating the bleeding
obvious and as a claim for having supported the proposal
it is _NUGATORY_ in the extreme.


Well, so far we've had the initial idea (which is a good one), an offer of
some "promotion", and little else from you. I'd hate to see this idea die
so common on, where is your material?

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Brian, G8OSN
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You're missing the point of my suggestion, and no doubt
being deliberately perverse, which was that we should
all act together in such a scheme to counteract the
damage that the RSCB is doing.

The first move for a joint approach is to canvass for
support.

Interesting that you of all people should be trying to
make it seem that you are supporting this campaign against
the RSCB, is it not?

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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Well, so far we've had the initial idea (which is a good one), an offer of
some "promotion", and little else from you. I'd hate to see this idea die
so common on, where is your material?



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"G.A.Evans G4SDW" wrote in message
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You're missing the point of my suggestion, and no doubt
being deliberately perverse, which was that we should
all act together in such a scheme


And I've done a bit, maybe you can now do a bit. I admit no one else seems
to be rushing to help but, unless they see some progress, they will think
your intentions are less than genuine. The best way to tackle this is for
your to provide some more "flesh on the bones".


The first move for a joint approach is to canvass for
support.


No one else seems to be rushing to help but, unless they see some progress,
they will think your intention isn't genuine. Conversely, if you provide
some more "flesh on the bones", then people are more likely to support the
project.

Interesting that you of all people should be trying to
make it seem that you are supporting this campaign against
the RSCB, is it not?


Who are the RSCB? I don't see this "campaign" as being against anyone. I do
see your idea as a vehicle to promote home construction etc. so I am happy
to support it.

So, where are those ideas? If you'd rather I didn't promote your work via my
website just say so and "do your own thing". However, having sown the idea,
you need to build on it ASAP- otherwise some might think your intentions are
less than genuine.

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G.A.Evans G4SDW wrote:
You're missing the point of my suggestion, and no doubt
being deliberately perverse, which was that we should
all act together in such a scheme to counteract the
damage that the RSCB is doing.

The first move for a joint approach is to canvass for
support.

Interesting that you of all people should be trying to
make it seem that you are supporting this campaign against
the RSCB, is it not?

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Well, so far we've had the initial idea (which is a good one), an offer of
some "promotion", and little else from you. I'd hate to see this idea die
so common on, where is your material?




A couple of points should be made he

1. There is no such thing as the RSCB.

2. In your original post, you said "Might we all act together to produce
a series of "biscuits" that could then be assembled Lego-like fashion to
produce any rig or test equipment?". This appears to be an admirable
suggestion to help newcomers to electronics and amateur radio, not a
call to arms against a non-existent organisation called the RSCB.

3. You seem to come up with many questions in this newsgroup but sadly
never seem to follow on with helpful solutions. It would be extremely
helpful if you did, so please do as I would be very interested.

Thank you Mr. Evans.
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