"Brian Reay" wrote in message
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Such things are not uncommon Jerry. Some wannabe manages to secure a post
in local college (were qualifications are often not required to teach) and
last under a term. He may well end up leaving under a could, probably with
a letter to the Principal claiming some mal-practice on the part of the
college when, in fact, the wannabe was simply not up to the job. He will
forever claim to have teaching or lecturing experience.


Aah, but in earlier years, those who graduated were assumed to be born
naturals as teachers, and were able to get a job in state schools because
a teaching certificate was not needed.

It was only in later years when standards had been dumbed down, and
entirely the wrong sort of candidate was being attracted, mebbe some
mediocre
engineer who had been dismissed from industry, that the teaching certificate
was made
mandatory, because the candidates were no longer born naturals, and needed
to be taught what to do.

Unfortunately, as this NG shows only too well, there are some who, despite
having such a certificate, have personality defects that render them to be
unsuitable to be employed in any school in any capacity (mentioning
no names)

On 5/16/2014 10:34 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 16/05/14 14:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


And I'll never forget the time a friend (and fellow IBMer) of mine's
early teen daughter took a night course on computers (this was back in
the mid-late 80's). On the first night, the instructor held up a 5.25"
diskette and said "This is a floppy disk". The instructor then held up
a 3.5" diskette and said "This is a hard disk". The class was downhill
from there.

Such things are not uncommon Jerry. Some wannabe manages to secure a
post in local college (were qualifications are often not required to
teach) and last under a term. He may well end up leaving under a could,
probably with a letter to the Principal claiming some mal-practice on
the part of the college when, in fact, the wannabe was simply not up to
the job. He will forever claim to have teaching or lecturing experience.


Yes, unfortunately, you're correct, Brian. I've seen this all too many
times in night schools/adult education classes.

But then in their defense, the schools have their own problems. I got a
call from another school in the same area, wanting me to teach. They
were offering $15/hr. (this was early 90's) for actual class time; prep,
grading of papers, etc. were all on my time. They aren't going to get a
good instructor at that rate, even for night classes. But they also
have to keep their costs down so that classes are affordable to almost
everyone.

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On 16/05/14 16:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/16/2014 10:34 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 16/05/14 14:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


And I'll never forget the time a friend (and fellow IBMer) of mine's
early teen daughter took a night course on computers (this was back in
the mid-late 80's). On the first night, the instructor held up a 5.25"
diskette and said "This is a floppy disk". The instructor then held up
a 3.5" diskette and said "This is a hard disk". The class was downhill
from there.

Such things are not uncommon Jerry. Some wannabe manages to secure a
post in local college (were qualifications are often not required to
teach) and last under a term. He may well end up leaving under a could,
probably with a letter to the Principal claiming some mal-practice on
the part of the college when, in fact, the wannabe was simply not up to
the job. He will forever claim to have teaching or lecturing experience.


Yes, unfortunately, you're correct, Brian. I've seen this all too many
times in night schools/adult education classes.

But then in their defense, the schools have their own problems. I got a
call from another school in the same area, wanting me to teach. They
were offering $15/hr. (this was early 90's) for actual class time; prep,
grading of papers, etc. were all on my time. They aren't going to get a
good instructor at that rate, even for night classes. But they also
have to keep their costs down so that classes are affordable to almost
everyone.

Rates for qualified maths specialists here, with a good exam result
history, is a lot more generous, if you want the work.

On 5/16/2014 12:01 PM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 16/05/14 16:39, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/16/2014 10:34 AM, Brian Reay wrote:
On 16/05/14 14:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


And I'll never forget the time a friend (and fellow IBMer) of mine's
early teen daughter took a night course on computers (this was back in
the mid-late 80's). On the first night, the instructor held up a 5.25"
diskette and said "This is a floppy disk". The instructor then held up
a 3.5" diskette and said "This is a hard disk". The class was downhill
from there.

Such things are not uncommon Jerry. Some wannabe manages to secure a
post in local college (were qualifications are often not required to
teach) and last under a term. He may well end up leaving under a could,
probably with a letter to the Principal claiming some mal-practice on
the part of the college when, in fact, the wannabe was simply not up to
the job. He will forever claim to have teaching or lecturing experience.


Yes, unfortunately, you're correct, Brian. I've seen this all too many
times in night schools/adult education classes.

But then in their defense, the schools have their own problems. I got a
call from another school in the same area, wanting me to teach. They
were offering $15/hr. (this was early 90's) for actual class time; prep,
grading of papers, etc. were all on my time. They aren't going to get a
good instructor at that rate, even for night classes. But they also
have to keep their costs down so that classes are affordable to almost
everyone.

Rates for qualified maths specialists here, with a good exam result
history, is a lot more generous, if you want the work.



Brian,

I'm sure they are here, also. Remember, this was 20 years ago.

But unfortunately, I'm on the other side of the pond, so I couldn't take
advantage of it, anyway.

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"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

Rates for qualified maths specialists here, with a good exam result
history, is a lot more generous, if you want the work.

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