highlandham wrote in news:lui1dh$ku0$1@dont-
email.me:

Talking LW time signals ,the UK MSF 60kHz tx is now located at Anthorn
-Cumbria . Sig here in Scotland is pretty strong.
It is a bit different with DCF at 77 KHz located near Frankfurt a/M
-Germany .
Both Lidl and Aldi (supermarkets) sell radio controlled clocks on 77KHz,
but to get the radio time signal I have to place such a clock near the
window here in the north of Scotland (IO87AT)
A reliable signal seems to be available everywhere up to approx 1000 kms
from the tx
Do you receive DCF ,77 khz well on your rx ?


I wish I could.. Neither of my radios will do it. 100KHz on the AOR AR-3000
is as low as it gets here. Maybe some frequency doubling relay can exist that
would allow down to 50 KHz reception...

Over a decade ago when I was looking at MSF based on a Maplin kit or two, the
transmissions were still from somewhere further south than now, not sure
where, they'd just changed from Rugby a few years earlier. Teddington maybe?
Reception was awkward, very fussy inside a basement, but it worked.

There's an Ultralite group on Yahoo. They do a lot with cobbling in
loops, etc to such radios. I haven't checked-in in a long time since
back when I had a PL-380. They have tallied up some good results as a
group are knowledgeable about the tuning system in that series or radios.

-Bill

Bill M wrote in :

There's an Ultralite group on Yahoo. They do a lot with cobbling in
loops, etc to such radios. I haven't checked-in in a long time since
back when I had a PL-380. They have tallied up some good results as a
group are knowledgeable about the tuning system in that series or radios.


I think they might be the source of what I found. I used to have access to
Yahoo until BT changed the login for emails to their own hosts. Right now I
doubt I have access, and Yahoo insist on policing me to use the latest
browser to access their walled garden (and by default and direct follow-on)
the latest Windows OS too, to support it! All this to access what is
basically a text discussion with a bit of picture hosting.

Now, if any of them read this and are willing to post on Usenet which is a
much better medium for the subject, I'm totally content.

The alternative is to do without as a result of my stand in not yielding to
the fabricated urge that drives so many people to accept systems aimed at
satisfying those who do not know anything about simple efficiency, at the
expense of all those who do. I could live with that, but I'd rather encourage
people to use Usenet. It's obituaries grow many and old, while it continues
to thrive.

Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Bill M wrote in :

There's an Ultralite group on Yahoo. They do a lot with cobbling in
loops, etc to such radios. I haven't checked-in in a long time since
back when I had a PL-380. They have tallied up some good results as a
group are knowledgeable about the tuning system in that series or radios.


I think they might be the source of what I found. I used to have access to
Yahoo until BT changed the login for emails to their own hosts. Right now I
doubt I have access, and Yahoo insist on policing me to use the latest
browser to access their walled garden (and by default and direct follow-on)
the latest Windows OS too, to support it! All this to access what is
basically a text discussion with a bit of picture hosting.

Now, if any of them read this and are willing to post on Usenet which is a
much better medium for the subject, I'm totally content.

The alternative is to do without as a result of my stand in not yielding to
the fabricated urge that drives so many people to accept systems aimed at
satisfying those who do not know anything about simple efficiency, at the
expense of all those who do. I could live with that, but I'd rather encourage
people to use Usenet. It's obituaries grow many and old, while it continues
to thrive.

Ohhh. That's quite a conundrum my friend.
An alternative might be to contact Jim Kearman, KR1S, over on the Radio
Board Forum. He's a ringmaster with the Ultralights and I'm sure would
be happy to share his insights.

http://theradioboard.com/rb/index.php

I'll save my comments on the demise of Usenet.

-Bill

Bill M wrote in :

Ohhh. That's quite a conundrum my friend.




I have no special thoughts on Usenet actually, I just find that Yahoo makes
life harder for me, not easier. Like water, I find it hard to go uphill.
Thanks for the info about Jim Kearman, very helpful.