This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

"KB6NU via rec.radio.amateur.moderated Admin"
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gareth wrote:
This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

The .homebrew group is not moderated and the moderators of .moderated have
no control over the cross posting to other groups.

I guess we shall add USENET to the list of things whose workings you
do not understand.


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Jim Pennino

On 10/29/2014 2:14 PM, wrote:
gareth wrote:
This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

The .homebrew group is not moderated and the moderators of .moderated have
no control over the cross posting to other groups.

I guess we shall add USENET to the list of things whose workings you
do not understand.



Actually, it is the people behind moderating the .moderated group who
are cross-posting this junk.

So yes, they DO have control. They just choose not to exercise that
control.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/29/2014 2:14 PM, wrote:
gareth wrote:
This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

The .homebrew group is not moderated and the moderators of .moderated have
no control over the cross posting to other groups.

I guess we shall add USENET to the list of things whose workings you
do not understand.



Actually, it is the people behind moderating the .moderated group who
are cross-posting this junk.

After looking at the full headers I see you are correct.

So yes, they DO have control. They just choose not to exercise that
control.

If the post were cross posted by the oringinal author as I thought before
looking at the headers, the moderators of .moderated would not have
control of the author cross posting to .homebrew or any other unmoderated
group.


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Jim Pennino

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, wrote:

gareth wrote:
This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

The .homebrew group is not moderated and the moderators of .moderated have
no control over the cross posting to other groups.

The moderators are the same people who are causing this spew.

Once upon a time, there was some cabal that took care of rec.radio.info

More than once, they felt they should have more power, so they tried to
"organize" the hierarchy a number of times. I'm pretty sure the "welcome
to this newsgroup" that happened at one point (they set up a program to
scan for new email addresses, and if it wsa your first time, you got the
email) was one of their projects. I know they held the newsgroups in
contempt, too messy.

So no more than a decade ago, they finally got their wish, and were able
to have a moderated newsgroup added to the hierarchy. Which pretty much
died on birth. There were some messages, and there are still a few each
month, but the moderated newsgroup has never had much traffic, not the
replacement they had intended.

SO to make matters worse, they tell us we can crosspost between the other
newsgroups and moderated, but if you reply to one of the crossposted
messages and it's not approved for the moderated newsgroup, your message
dies, they don't just let it slip into the other newsgroup. Self imposed
dictators that can't even get it right.

ANd then they started the barrage. rec.radio.info wasn't good enough,
they started posting endless messages from elsewhere. They are the source
of most of the traffic in these newsgroups, and likely drives realy
content out. People look in, don't see any real posts, and don't bother.

So we have google search results being posted, or crossposted. Now we
have blog posts echoed to the newsgroups. They are even digging up old
posts and resending them. As if all of that will cause traffic, and
sometimes it does, people who don't even seem to realize the original
posters aren't here. Most of the traffic in .moderated, other than the
spew, is those people replying to the blog posts.

The latest addition is this reddit thing, which seems a lot like usenet
except nothing is wrong with usenet.

Like I've said, this isn't 1994, when it was still possible to have usenet
access but not other online access. Back then it made sense to gather
information from other places, we might not be able to see it otherwise.
Now, if we really wanted to read blogs and find out what the ARRL has on
its website and whatever, we can do that, since we all have internet
access. We are't getting usenet from a BBS.

It even gets worse, since the blog and bulletins aren't intended for a
common space, they often tell the same story, and the DIctator isnt' even
filtering out the duplicates. I have no idea who this latest ham who died
is, yet we see multiple postings because the Dictator thinks we should see
them, yet if everyone was posting to the newsgroups in the first place,
there wouldn't be the duplication.

The most visible moderator, and the one who I blame all this mess on,
is Paul W. Schleck

He doesn't like usenet, he isnt' a regular poster, yet he thinks he is
above us and thus able to decide what we need.

Michael VE2BVW

I guess we shall add USENET to the list of things whose workings you
do not understand.


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Jim Pennino

Michael Black wrote in
xample.org:

They are the source
of most of the traffic in these newsgroups, and likely drives realy
content out. People look in, don't see any real posts, and don't bother.

Usenet is a strange town. When in a strange town the first thing I do is head
for a group of people in a safe public space who look like they don't mind
the approach of a stranger. SHich sort of puts moderated groups into
perspective, because they're about as useful as a shut-in pub that has
already closed its doors. To a stranger, it is NOT a refuge, but a source of
risk that is fortunately oblivious to the stranger passing by outside.

A few spam posts are less worrying. It might look like an empty street with
the odd newspaper blowing past, but at least it looks like it might lead
somewhere better. Besides, if the town really is strange and new, even an
old newspaper lost and uncared for might be a very useful bit of info to the
stranger.

Being very recently arrived, I thought that perspective might be useful.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, gareth wrote:

This is irrelevant SPAM when posted to .homebrew, and I call the moderators
to task for letting this SPM slip through

Yes, it's another misdirect. And the other day, there was something in
one of the other newsgroups that was more relevant to .homebrew

The barrage is increasing, the Dictator is adding so many that he's unable
to keep track of what belongs where.


Michael

"KB6NU via rec.radio.amateur.moderated Admin"
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
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The barrage is increasing, the Dictator is adding so many that he's unable
to keep track of what belongs where.

Dictator?

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:02:44 +0000, gareth wrote:


Dictator?

It's a penis crossed with a spud.


HTH

Radiohead70 wrote in news:m2recm$u63$1@dont-
email.me:

It's a penis crossed with a spud.


HTH


No, not really. Is there any tea on this spaceship?