On 12/2/2014 12:12 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:41:10 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 12/2/2014 10:52 AM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 10:43:08 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

*For now* the moderators are different. but with a freemason-type
succession policy nothing can be guaranteed.

More unfounded conjecture.

Not at all, Spike is quite correct that fair and intelligent
moderation is in no way guaranteed with the initial moderators
certain to remain in post until the death of Usenet.


That is not what he said, Brian.


Moderators don't have to continue for ever, they can be replaced by
other people without any vote being held. If the group creation
succeeds then the moderation team could change to people who are not so
well regarded as the current two moderator candidates.


Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over as
moderators of ukrram. It is unfounded conjecture and FUD.

Even if they did - the worse that would happen is the newsgroup would die.

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On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 20:58:17 +0000, Brian Morrison wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500 Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested, what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those replacements
could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no recourse to any
mechanism to prevent it.

Still playing in defence then, Bri'.

On 02/12/14 20:58, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested, what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those
replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no
recourse to any mechanism to prevent it.

Thanks for that, Brian. I was sure I had made myself clear.


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law". Judge Rolfe

On 12/2/2014 3:58 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested, what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those
replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no
recourse to any mechanism to prevent it.


No, he is not. But you obviously cannot understand that.

But then you were also one of the instigators - and a supporter of Spike.

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Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested,

It's been implied many times.

what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those
replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no
recourse to any mechanism to prevent it.

Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace
moderators.

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On 03/12/14 06:11, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested,

It's been implied many times.

what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those
replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no
recourse to any mechanism to prevent it.

Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace
moderators.

Has that ever been done? How long did the process take, and what was the
outcome?


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"Hard cases, it has frequently been observed, are apt to introduce bad
law". Judge Rolfe

On 12/3/2014 1:11 AM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:19:30 -0500
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yes, but there is no indication the moderators of rram will take over
as moderators of ukrram.

I have not seen that suggested,

It's been implied many times.


I have never seen it implied, either.

what Spike is trying to say is that if
the initial moderation team disbands and is replaced, those
replacements could have any attitude and agenda and there would be no
recourse to any mechanism to prevent it.

Incorrect. At any point, any individual can RFD to remove/replace
moderators.


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