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The transformers in that circuit are tuned; that is, they're basically
tank circuits with a secondary winding for impedance transformation. So type 43 ferrite would be a very poor choice, since it has a Q of 1 at a few MHz. You need a core material that maintains a decent Q at the frequency of interest. Type 61 isn't too awfully bad from a Q standpoint at lower HF, but you'll have a very strong temperature dependence. There are a couple of other 60 series ferrites that might be better -- check out the Fair-Rite web site. I'd use a bigger powdered iron core, myself. Going to type 2 material will reduce the required number of turns, and will probably reduce the Q only slightly. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Jason Hsu wrote: Yes, this is related to the noise cancelling device described at http://www.geocities.com/g4lna/noisdes.html I'm trying to figure out if I can substitute type 61 or type 43 ferrites for the transformers, because I have these ferrite ring cores but I do not have the iron powder toroids. Also, using type 43 ferrites would allow me to use fewer turns. (That 160m/180m transformer requires about 50 turns!) From my experience with high-power RF transformers, I know that iron powder toroids are less vulnerable to core saturation and excess heating. The phase shifter and the amplifier in the noise cancelling device do NOT work with high power levels like a transmitter, tuner, or SWR/wattmeter would. So if core saturation and excess heating are not an issue, is there any particular reason I MUST use iron powder instead of ferrites? Jason Hsu, AG4DG |
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