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"Pete KE9OA" ) writes:
I did do a version of that quasi-sync detector, using a Philips SA637 digital FM receiver chip. I took one of the limiter outputs and fed it back into the LO input of the on-board mixer. The 455kHz I.F. signal was applied to the RF input of the on-board mixer, and the audio was taken from the I.F. output of this mixer. Not bad, although the demodulated audio level was fairly low (about 50mV p-p). I was actually considering using that detector, until I discovered the appnote for the Analog Devices AD607. Pete Of course, what we've tended to see is an all or nothing thing when it comes to AM (with carrier) detection. A simple diode detector, or a PLL based synchronous detector (with or without phasing for sideband selection). In some ways, it's been driven by market not by curiosity. In the early seventies, those Signetic 56X series of analog PLLs came along, and simple synchronous detectors (or outright receivers) were all over the place. Most of the people applying them in hobby circles hadn't woke up one day and said "we need a better AM detector", it was because all of a sudden one could get the function on a single IC. So there was a novelty, if nothing else. Various communication type ICs came along at that point, and people were interested in "all mode" detectors from them. Since a double balanced mixer was common to most of such ICs (the MC1496, various FM detectors, the LM373, various Plessey ICs and let's not forget Ralph Burhan making a Loran C receiver out of an IC made for simple AM/FM broadcast reception), it certainly caused an interest in simple quasi-synchronous or outright synchronous detectors. But again, it often seemed to be "how can we get the most out of this IC" rather than "let's try to improve the lowly AM detector". So there have been very little instances of biased diode detectors (I think one of the Drake receivers used one, and Rohde showed a few in his Ham Radio articles a quarter century ago, and I've seen some in Wireless World in years gone by). Whether or not that is a useful path, there never was the level of interest in trying such things that there was for synchronous detectors, even before the latter became easy with ICs. And while at one point the limiter feeding the product detector was described as a "synchronous detector" and worthy of experimentation, as fancier detectors became more common, they are dismissed as merely quasi-synchronous and maybe not even worth the effort. Yet, they are a middle ground, maybe offering some increase in performance without the extra circuitry of a PLL based detector. I can point to a 1955 (I think) article in QST where someone built a fancy receiver, with two parallel IF strips. One was AM bandwidth, the other CW bandwidth. But, there was switching at the outputs of the IF strips, so the CW strip could feed the product detector at the output of the voice IF, and get some level of increased performance. Let's not forget (to the original poster) that the whole point of going beyond a diode detector is to improve operation with weak carriers compared to the sidebands, or for that matter with adjacent channel interference. The synchronous comes about because one needs the reinserted carrier right where the incoming carrier is, but except for that need, it's all about mixing the incoming signal down to audio, just as in sideband reception. With a strong signal, the diode mixer works fine for that, mixing the sidebands with the carrier. But as the carrier weakens, or an adjacent signal becomes stronger to "capture" the detector, the simple diode detector suffers. Long before before CQ ran the article about the synchronous detector in 1958 or so, most or all hams who tried for better AM reception tried other things. Like boosting the carrier of an incoming signal in reference to the sidebands, "exalted carrier". The common, or maybe only means, of doing this was by using a Q-Multiplier, which could provide a narrow peak for the carrier, but a relatively sloppy skit so it didn't attenuate the sidebands too much. Nobody talks about this anymore, even though we've seen in this thread the comment "simple and good" don't apply to synchronous detectors. But how much improvement is needed, versus how much circuitry one is willing to accept? Michael VE2BVW |
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