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Old May 2nd 04, 02:10 PM
Biz WDØHCO
 
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I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isÅ* would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO

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Old May 2nd 04, 04:08 PM
Ken Scharf
 
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Biz WDØHCO wrote:
I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isÅ* would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO

I think I might be interrested in some of them. Let us know exactly
what you have. I also have some old pop'tronics mags that I might think
of scanning myself (maybe have some you don't). Also some old
Electronics Illustrated mags. Being a Linux person, I think the bmp
format would be better for me than the PICT format.

If you get over run with requests maybe someone with more time on their
hands could duplicate your CD's for you (second source?). And maybe
someone out there with large BW could post the iso images on the web (a
month at a time for the current cd?).

I'm not sure why the .tiff and .jpg formats are a problem, the QST view
scans don't look too bad, and some of the problem seems to be they
were made from scans of microfilms of poorly stored old magazines!
Pehaps someone with some experience using image software can comment.


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Old May 2nd 04, 04:08 PM
Ken Scharf
 
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Biz WDØHCO wrote:
I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isÅ* would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO

I think I might be interrested in some of them. Let us know exactly
what you have. I also have some old pop'tronics mags that I might think
of scanning myself (maybe have some you don't). Also some old
Electronics Illustrated mags. Being a Linux person, I think the bmp
format would be better for me than the PICT format.

If you get over run with requests maybe someone with more time on their
hands could duplicate your CD's for you (second source?). And maybe
someone out there with large BW could post the iso images on the web (a
month at a time for the current cd?).

I'm not sure why the .tiff and .jpg formats are a problem, the QST view
scans don't look too bad, and some of the problem seems to be they
were made from scans of microfilms of poorly stored old magazines!
Pehaps someone with some experience using image software can comment.


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Old May 2nd 04, 07:14 PM
Roger and Ute Brown
 
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Biz,

Why don't you just scan one each month and have the file available for
download someplace for a period of time. That way we can pick and choose
the months that interest us and won't have any need for intermediate media
or the costs of same?

Roger, KL7Q


Biz WDØHCO wrote in message
...
I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique

radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s

that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to

store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isS would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things

interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist

or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO



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Old May 2nd 04, 07:14 PM
Roger and Ute Brown
 
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Biz,

Why don't you just scan one each month and have the file available for
download someplace for a period of time. That way we can pick and choose
the months that interest us and won't have any need for intermediate media
or the costs of same?

Roger, KL7Q


Biz WDØHCO wrote in message
...
I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique

radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s

that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to

store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isS would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things

interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist

or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO





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Old May 2nd 04, 07:48 PM
Fred McKenzie
 
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I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD1s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Biz-

The reason you don't like the TIFF or JPEG scans, is because they are bad
scans! If done at a high enough resolution, TIFF is close to the best you can
do. JPEG compresses the images to reduce file size, but will degrade them if
you go too far.

Although I am using a Macintosh, I think you are wasting your time with PICT
and BMP formats. I would recommend scanning to TIFF and converting to JPEG for
the final product, unless you can fit both TIFF and a good JPEG on one CD. If
your scans have good detail, there may be more data than you expect.

A format that may work with the widest selection of systems, is Adobe Acrobat
PDF. That may be the best way to consolidate all of an issue's pages into a
single document. Many of the equipment manuals on the net are in that format,
and some have extremely fine detail.

73, Fred, K4DII

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Old May 2nd 04, 07:48 PM
Fred McKenzie
 
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I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD1s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Biz-

The reason you don't like the TIFF or JPEG scans, is because they are bad
scans! If done at a high enough resolution, TIFF is close to the best you can
do. JPEG compresses the images to reduce file size, but will degrade them if
you go too far.

Although I am using a Macintosh, I think you are wasting your time with PICT
and BMP formats. I would recommend scanning to TIFF and converting to JPEG for
the final product, unless you can fit both TIFF and a good JPEG on one CD. If
your scans have good detail, there may be more data than you expect.

A format that may work with the widest selection of systems, is Adobe Acrobat
PDF. That may be the best way to consolidate all of an issue's pages into a
single document. Many of the equipment manuals on the net are in that format,
and some have extremely fine detail.

73, Fred, K4DII

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Old May 3rd 04, 05:15 AM
RCM
 
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Buy your wife a new scanner with the document feed tray and think about PDF files.
Think there are some open source stuff that will save as PDF.

Roger and Ute Brown wrote:

Biz,

Why don't you just scan one each month and have the file available for
download someplace for a period of time. That way we can pick and choose
the months that interest us and won't have any need for intermediate media
or the costs of same?

Roger, KL7Q


Biz WDØHCO wrote in message
...

I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique


radio-phono

newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s


that

were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to


store

them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isS would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things


interesting

by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist


or

socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO





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Old May 3rd 04, 05:15 AM
RCM
 
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Buy your wife a new scanner with the document feed tray and think about PDF files.
Think there are some open source stuff that will save as PDF.

Roger and Ute Brown wrote:

Biz,

Why don't you just scan one each month and have the file available for
download someplace for a period of time. That way we can pick and choose
the months that interest us and won't have any need for intermediate media
or the costs of same?

Roger, KL7Q


Biz WDØHCO wrote in message
...

I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique


radio-phono

newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s


that

were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to


store

them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isS would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things


interesting

by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist


or

socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO





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Old May 3rd 04, 06:56 AM
Rick Frazier
 
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As at least one other replied, I would also be interested in some of them, but
don't have the budget for all.... It would be an interesting trip down memory
lane, having lived it once, but would like to have copies of some of the ones
that have interest to me, particularly things that interested me back then....

I'd agree with the PDF as a good candidate for output format. It usually looks
good, and even the linux guys probably have a PDF viewer by now.

Depending on the actual size they end up, there might be some possibility of
putting them up on a web site. I've got a couple of sites that have about 500mb
free each, and might be convinced to host something if the terms were right. (if
they were reasonably popular, maybe you could post a couple of issues a month,
with paid download for those interested... I have set up this sort of thing
before so have most of the code already here on my development system. Of
course, for a paid download, the price would need to be less than $3 per
issues...). Anyway, I know there's extra bandwidth and storage space out there
in the Ham community if there is interesting stuff that needs to be available on
line, even if for a relatively short time.

Thanks
--Rick AH7H

Biz WDØHCO wrote:

I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isÅ* would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist or
socialist nations".

- Biz WDØHCO


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