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Old May 5th 04, 04:54 PM
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 13:25:52 +0200, Rene Tschaggelar
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Paul Burridge wrote:
Hi all,

I was thinking about having a go at contriving (I won't say
"designing" for obvious reasons) a class 'C' RF amp using MOSFETs
instead of the usual BJTs/toobz. They seem - on the face of it at
least - ideally suited to the task. I'm just a bit concerned about
whether even the fastest ones would be fast enough, even given
adequate gate drive. I'd be surprised if they weren't good for at
least a few Mhz., but am quite frankly clueless as to MUF. Anyone
know?



Paul,
what is the frequency range and the amplitude ?
I assume a 50 Ohm system.


Yeah, 50 in; 50-75 out say. As for frequency, that's what I'm trying
to establish: the highest useable frequency device for say 50W-100W
out. Amplitude's subservient to power. What kind of frequency upper
limit might be achievable? Say with the best gate driver arrangement
conceivable?
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Paul Burridge wrote:
On Wed, 05 May 2004 13:25:52 +0200, Rene Tschaggelar
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Paul Burridge wrote:

Hi all,

I was thinking about having a go at contriving (I won't say
"designing" for obvious reasons) a class 'C' RF amp using MOSFETs
instead of the usual BJTs/toobz. They seem - on the face of it at
least - ideally suited to the task. I'm just a bit concerned about
whether even the fastest ones would be fast enough, even given
adequate gate drive. I'd be surprised if they weren't good for at
least a few Mhz., but am quite frankly clueless as to MUF. Anyone
know?



Paul,
what is the frequency range and the amplitude ?
I assume a 50 Ohm system.



Yeah, 50 in; 50-75 out say. As for frequency, that's what I'm trying
to establish: the highest useable frequency device for say 50W-100W
out. Amplitude's subservient to power. What kind of frequency upper
limit might be achievable? Say with the best gate driver arrangement
conceivable?

Mosfets in the MRF5xx series (511, 521 for example) have been used
up to the 10 meter band with good results. A pair of them can give
at least 50w pep output. Depending on the input/output circuitry
used and the transistor they require 12-28v power supply. Layout
is somewhat critical.
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 20:13:01 -0400, Ken Scharf
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Mosfets in the MRF5xx series (511, 521 for example) have been used
up to the 10 meter band with good results. A pair of them can give
at least 50w pep output. Depending on the input/output circuitry
used and the transistor they require 12-28v power supply. Layout
is somewhat critical.


THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?

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THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?

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Mind in-&output capacitances ,which add-on when parallelling.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH



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Highland Ham wrote:
THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?


==================================
Mind in-&output capacitances ,which add-on when parallelling.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH




Not to mention that "critical layout".

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Old May 6th 04, 10:34 PM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:56:06 +0100, "Highland Ham"
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THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?

==================================
Mind in-&output capacitances ,which add-on when parallelling.


Indeed, but there must be some current-pumping circuit that might
assist here?
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I've successfully used a complementary-symmetry driver for an MRF510 at
20 and 15 meters, class C, 5 watts out. The driver is essentially
digital, being driven to the rails.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Paul Burridge wrote:
Indeed, but there must be some current-pumping circuit that might
assist here?

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I've successfully used a complementary-symmetry driver for an MRF510 at
20 and 15 meters, class C, 5 watts out. The driver is essentially
digital, being driven to the rails.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Paul Burridge wrote:
Indeed, but there must be some current-pumping circuit that might
assist here?

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Highland Ham wrote:
THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?


==================================
Mind in-&output capacitances ,which add-on when parallelling.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH




Not to mention that "critical layout".

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Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:56:06 +0100, "Highland Ham"
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THanks, very interesting. I wonder if anyone's tried paralleling up
half a dozen of 'em for more power?

==================================
Mind in-&output capacitances ,which add-on when parallelling.


Indeed, but there must be some current-pumping circuit that might
assist here?
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