On 10/01/16 05:09, Michael Black wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016, gareth wrote:

In Brit, in order to get any sort of licence, even the beginner's licence
targetted at the 5-year-old (and shame on any grown man who took one
out!)
you have to go through an elementary construction exercise, which I
believe
gets promptly forgotten.

I wonder if perhaps we in these NG could get together and design a set
of constructions that would then become a standard as a minimum set of
test equipment so that beginners, even if not taught about such things on
their
various syllabi, could verify the power, frquency of transmission, and
harmonic
output, for without such a capability, such licensees are
indistinguishable
from CBers?

You should come to Canada. In 1972 when I got my license, there was not
only the code sending and receiving tests, but a multiple choice test on
operating and technical matters, and we had to draw and describe various
items, like a receiver, a transmitter, a 100KHz frequency standard, etc.
You could use simple versions of each, but you had to be able to
describe the workings, and the guy giving the test knew the stuff.

The minute I got my license, I could run a full kilowatt, and operate on
all bands, the only thing missing was no phone operation.

Then they restructured in 1990, and the beginner's license is now a very
simple test (or so I hear), but you can't build transmitters. They
sugar coat it by saying "the licensee can build anything except
transmitters" but a simple CW transmitter is easier to build than a
useful receiver. You get more restrictions on operating, and I think
power is limited. You have to take the advanced test to get full
privileges.

"Nobody builds anymore" was the cry, so why put a complicated test in
the way of people wanting to become hams. But once upon a time,
building was part of the process, now it's relegated to a "niche"

Michael

+1

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Over a year ago I decided to leave uk.r.a because of all the childish,
mindless bickering and self righteous wind up comments and questions.
I've been back a week and have decided that this was probably 6 days too
long.

See you all again in another year or so, if you haven't all disappeared
up your own orifices by then.
--
Bill

In message , Bill
writes

Over a year ago I decided to leave uk.r.a because of all the childish,
mindless bickering and self righteous wind up comments and questions.

I'm beginning to suspect that no intelligent life-forms are actually
involved, and that it's all generated by computers.

I've been back a week and have decided that this was probably 6 days
too long.

See you all again in another year or so, if you haven't all disappeared
up your own orifices by then.

Well, we now have uk.r.a.m.
--
Ian

On 10/01/2016 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bill
writes

Over a year ago I decided to leave uk.r.a because of all the
childish, mindless bickering and self righteous wind up comments and
questions.

I'm beginning to suspect that no intelligent life-forms are actually
involved, and that it's all generated by computers.

I've been back a week and have decided that this was probably 6 days
too long.

See you all again in another year or so, if you haven't all
disappeared up your own orifices by then.

Well, we now have uk.r.a.m.

...where you can talk about wall-wart USB supplies, meting plastics, and
how quiet UKRAM is.

Meanwhile, in one thread alone here there's been more AR technical stuff
than UKRAM has had since its inception.

But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

Spike wrote:

snip


But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?

I wasn't aware that *I* was whinging; you, on the other hand ...

--

Roger Hayter

Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

snip


But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?

I wasn't aware that *I* was whinging; you, on the other hand ...

Spuke's been in an absolutely morbid funk for nearly a month now. Who would
have thought that the simple creation of a moderated group would cause him
to lose this much dignity?

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Spike wrote:
On 10/01/2016 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Bill
writes

Over a year ago I decided to leave uk.r.a because of all the
childish, mindless bickering and self righteous wind up comments and
questions.

I'm beginning to suspect that no intelligent life-forms are actually
involved, and that it's all generated by computers.

I've been back a week and have decided that this was probably 6 days
too long.

See you all again in another year or so, if you haven't all
disappeared up your own orifices by then.

Well, we now have uk.r.a.m.

..where you can talk about wall-wart USB supplies, meting plastics, and how quiet UKRAM is.

Meanwhile, in one thread alone here there's been more AR technical stuff
than UKRAM has had since its inception.

But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?


Gotten to.

--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur

On 10/01/2016 22:07, Brian Reay wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 10/01/2016 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:

Well, we now have uk.r.a.m.

..where you can talk about wall-wart USB supplies, meting plastics, and
how quiet UKRAM is.

Meanwhile, in one thread alone here there's been more AR technical stuff
than UKRAM has had since its inception.

But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?

Because it is a free country and, contrary to your deeply held views, you
do not control this newsgroup or any other. Get over it.

False argument.

You have not been charged for this education in reality.

You are a source of endless amusement.


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

On 10/01/2016 22:59, Brian Reay wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 10/01/2016 22:07, Brian Reay wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 10/01/2016 16:17, Ian Jackson wrote:

Well, we now have uk.r.a.m.

..where you can talk about wall-wart USB supplies, meting plastics, and
how quiet UKRAM is.

Meanwhile, in one thread alone here there's been more AR technical stuff
than UKRAM has had since its inception.

But you got your Promised Land, thanks in part to a Mr M T Cole (who has
yet to show), so why don't you bugger off there and quit whingeing on here?

Because it is a free country and, contrary to your deeply held views, you
do not control this newsgroup or any other. Get over it.

False argument.

So you believe you control this group?

False argument compounding a false argument.

How long have you had this Napoleon complex?

Not as long as you?

Do you have a little Napoleon hat?

Nope. I don't have a Napoleon wig, either.

Perhaps you practice the 'look', the hand trucked in the coat.

I certainly don't practice 'the look' by rolling up my trouser leg and
wearing an apron.

That must look funny when you are shopping for your M&S meal deals ;-)

Having a bared breast would be far worse :-)))

Thanks for the continuing source of amusement!


--
Spike

"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"

- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet

En el artículo , Bill
escribió:

See you all again in another year or so, if you haven't all disappeared
up your own orifices by then.

You may wish to try uk.radio.amateur.moderated, which was recently
created for people like you who don't wish to venture into the dinosaur-
infested cesspit that is uk.radio.amateur. Moderation ensures that
discussion is on-topic and no personal attacks are permitted.

It's low traffic at the moment only having been in existence for about
three weeks, but discussion up to now has been interesting and relevant.
Please feel free to join in.

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