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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:42:19 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:
The power company run a line to my house. They supply me with electricity. This amounts to a 230V, 65A facility at the distribution board in a cupboard under the stairs. I run all my stuff from that board. The board contains several RCBOs that trip-out in the event of any leakage current being sensed. If current in = current out; they're happy and won't trip. Because they don't trip out, I conclude I don't use any current. The voltage supplied is 230VAC RMS. Since this is alternating between equal positive and negative half-cycles, the average level of this voltage supply is zero. I use no current and they effectively supply no voltage. Why do I get billed for electricity usage when I clearly can't have used any? Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? Thanks, Rich |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:18:28 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
wrote: Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? It's a "thought-provoking metaphysical discussion." Care to participate? ;-) -- "What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793. |
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"Paul Burridge" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:18:28 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote: Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? It's a "thought-provoking metaphysical discussion." No, it's not. |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:38:44 -0800, "Richard Henry"
wrote: "Paul Burridge" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:18:28 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote: Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? It's a "thought-provoking metaphysical discussion." No, it's not. Audience: "Oh yes it is!" -- "What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793. |
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Paul Burridge wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:38:44 -0800, "Richard Henry" wrote: "Paul Burridge" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:18:28 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote: Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? It's a "thought-provoking metaphysical discussion." No, it's not. Audience: "Oh yes it is!" Audience: Oh no its not, you're either playing silly buggers or demonstrating a deep lack of understanding. Cheers Terry |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:44:26 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:18:28 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote: Please forgive my naivete, but this is a joke, right? It's a "thought-provoking metaphysical discussion." Care to participate? ;-) Well, yeah, except that it's so simple to "explain away" by just saying that you're not paying for the electrons themselves that are just passing through, but the energy required to get them to do that passage. They've got the motor, you've got the wagon. The electrons are just a medium, conceptually indistinguishable from the way a V-belt transfers energy. I've said this in other FUs kinda ad nauseam, tonight. :-) Thanks, Rich |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:04:59 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
wrote: Well, yeah, except that it's so simple to "explain away" by just saying that you're not paying for the electrons themselves that are just passing through, but the energy required to get them to do that passage. Big deal. All they've got to do is pull some carbon rods out of a pile of radio-active crap and the job's done. How hard can that be? -- "What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793. |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 22:38:36 +0000, Paul Burridge
wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:04:59 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote: Well, yeah, except that it's so simple to "explain away" by just saying that you're not paying for the electrons themselves that are just passing through, but the energy required to get them to do that passage. Big deal. All they've got to do is pull some carbon rods out of a pile of radio-active crap and the job's done. How hard can that be? --- I think that's kinda what they thought at Chernobyl... -- John Fields |
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