Why did I know in my gut that a decent conversation on a relevant topic
would degenerate into the usual bunch of crap within a couple of days?

Jim



...and if all spam could be stopped, trillions of dollars per year would
be saved, as well as all of the power required to run all of the
involved computers.

Robert Baer wrote:
Ol' Duffer wrote:

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.


If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands, more
variety, more types, etc.

I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs. They are
getting huge these days! About 3 times the size of what they were just
2-3 years ago.

I'm not griping mind you, but I'd hate to have to do all my daydreaming
and parts selections online.

-Bill

I remember Jerry Mouser in his claptrap pickup truck peddling "jappo crappo"
capacitors and resistors out of the bed of the truck at a lot of the
companies in San Diego in the late '60s.

Things have changed...

Jim



"
I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs.

"Bill M" wrote in message
...
Robert Baer wrote:
Ol' Duffer wrote:

I wonder sometimes how much they spend printing catalogs
every two months, which always seemed excessive to me.
I'd have thought twice a year would be plenty.


If you noticed, each newer catalog has *more* parts; more brands,
more
variety, more types, etc.

I wonder how long Mouser can keep up the quarterly catalogs. They are
getting huge these days! About 3 times the size of what they were
just
2-3 years ago.

I'm not griping mind you, but I'd hate to have to do all my
daydreaming
and parts selections online.

If you don't, you're already missing out on some things. The paper
catalog doesn't have everything that's online.

-Bill

Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:


and parts selections online.


If you don't, you're already missing out on some things. The paper
catalog doesn't have everything that's online.

Maybe so, but so far I've always been able to find everything I need in
the paper catalog so it still gets a big thumbs up from me for convenience.

-Bill

Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording.

Yes. For this, they might benefit from hiring a person with some real
electronics knowledge, who might be able to standardize the terms used
in the database, and thus would have to translate any non-standard
compliant terminology from their vendors into the terms used in the
database. That would make even the semis consistent.



Good day!

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Tim Shoppa wrote:
For the past several years I've irregularly posted my experiences
ordering over the web from several catalog houses/surplus suppliers
with online ordering.

My hope in doing this was not just to give pointers to other
small-timers like myself as to which ones are the best sites, but to
give feedback to the companies to get them to improve their interfaces.

But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust. Their search engine and selection forms for picking out
components is simply superb, and is getting better all the time. If I
want to know what X5R dielectric capacitors are available in 0402 form
factor, the answer is just a couple of clicks and a few seconds away.
This is simply amazing.

Semiconductor search is not quite so slick, but I cannot blame Digikey
for not trying. They do a good job, especially seeing as how 7
different vendors describe their similar parts with slightly different
wording. For product lines where categorization and selection menus
might be able to work well, they've coerced everything into selection
menus that are simply superb. And datasheets and sometimes photos are
always just a mouse click away for the real comparison.

Don't get me wrong: Newark, Mouser, Allied, Jameco, and a few others
that I order over the web from have pretty good web-order-entry
systems. They've all improved since they first began taking orders over
the web. Many of them now have near-real-time stock and shipping
status. They let me do my hobby shopping at home at night without
having to call during the day. But they have pretty much zero search
and selection ability.

Digikey, keep doing it right!

Tim.

For those who joined the hobby after the early 70's let me point out
that DigiKey's name comes from an electronic digital keyer that the
company sold via ad's in QST. It was a small circuit board (about
2"x2") using RTL (IIRC) Ic's. After a few years the company transformed
from ham radio stuff to a part's mail order biz. Digikey didn't forget
their ham radio roots, they are happy to sell parts in onezes to
hobby buyers today.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.

"Eric Smith" wrote in message
...
Tim Shoppa wrote:
But since my first online order (1997 or so) one outfit has risen
way
above the others: Digikey. Digikey's website leaves all the others
in
the dust.

Agreed. Digikey and Mouser are my main suppliers. As a rule of
thumb,
if you can't get it from Digikey or Mouser, it doesn't really exist.

That's pure nonsense. I've tried to get specialized semi's from both,
and having failed that, I've found what I needed at other online
sources. One recent example comes to mind: Futurlec. www.futurlec.com
has a number of things much cheaper than D-K or M - and they're
international.

Another is ultrabright LEDs. D-K or M have nothing worthwhile. You
have to go to another supplier to get 'em.

And maybe the best example is the source(s) of many of our small qty
parts: Ebay. ;-)

But on Ebay, read *all* the info in the auction. I see shysters,
especially foreign shysters, who will sell you parts dirt cheap, and rip
you off with the shipping/handling. :-(

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:23:55 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
And maybe the best example is the source(s) of many of our small qty
parts: Ebay. ;-)

But on Ebay, read *all* the info in the auction. I see shysters,
especially foreign shysters, who will sell you parts dirt cheap, and rip
you off with the shipping/handling. :-(

It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.
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