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From: "RST Engineering" Mon, Mar 14 2005 8:11
pm Firstly, 108 to 118 MHz is the international civil aviation radionavigation band. It's not all that interesting to listen to unless a local tower is also repeating voice comms over a VOR or Localizer radionav transmitter nearby on the ground. The civil aviation voice band is 118 to 137 MHz. Firstly, the tower does NOT repeat voice comms over a VOR. The local Flight Service Station MIGHT, but in the days of crystal controlled navcoms, the amount of voice traffic on a VOR is next to nothing. Now, now, Jim. They do. My residence is a mile and a half from BUR, roughly eight miles from VNY here in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles. Agreed, tower operators SELDOM repeat their transmissions over the VOR but it is there in case it is needed. I've heard them often enough. VOR has an almost enormous bandwidth between 30 Hz and the 9.96 KHz subcarrier phase reference...which was INTENDED to carry voice as a conventience to the tower. BUR, now the Bob Hope Airport, USED to carry the taped weather broadcasts over their VOR but stopped several years ago. Secondly, the tower/FSS will never in HELL repeat something on a localizer frequency. Calm down. I may still vote for you next election, but not if you act like Arnie... :-) Hokay, I may have spoken hastily on the voice over Localizer. Color me "probably wrong" there. You are correct; the civilian aviation voice band is 118.000 to 136.975 MHz. Thank you. Sigh, I was only in the business of making civil avionics and their test sets once. :-) Jameco sells the MC145151 PLL IC (On Semiconductor the Motorola spin-off still makes them) which, with a prescaler, can make a good, stable LO that is channelized at 50 KHz increments for precise tuning. MC145151 is parallel-load for division, no extra IC needed to get the right division ratio as in some serial-input PLL or DDS chips. The 145151 is OK if you don't mind spurs every 25 kHz. from dc to daylight. Sorry, I don't agree there. "Spurs" with an ordinary PLL happen when the loop filter component values are incorrect...and/or a higher frequency pole is used (via an extra R and C in loop filter)to reduce higher frequency components out of the PFD. I've made a few PLLs with that MC145151 for homebrew projects and not had any spurs from "DC to daylight" or within the band of interest. The 145152 is a much better dual-modulo prescaler that gets rid of a lot of trash and garbage from single modulo prescaling that you probably don't want. I've not tried the 145152 but, back a number of years before On Semi split from Motorola Semi, a Motorola factory person said the 152 is essentially the same as the 151 except for the serial data interface. I can't vouch for that but that's what I remember. Single modulus prescaling (putting a simple divide by 8 or divide by 10 in series with the VCO and PLL IC signal input) doesn't produce any more #$%^&!!! stuff than going direct into the PLL IC signal input. That is said PROVIDED the loop filter output line to the VCO it is controlling is "clean" and doesn't pick up other circuit signals. Such garbage pickup is the common cause of "spurs" and is layout dependent, NOT dependent on whether or not any prescaling is done. There's some dependency on proper supply rail decoupling for the phase-frequency detector and any active op-amps used between the loop filter and VCO control input. By the way, I've used the MC1350 down to 10 V supply rails with no problem although I do agree with it running optimally (for gain and noise figure) at 12 V supply. There's a lot of internal constant current sources on that IC and that causes the dependency on supply voltage. The same with the MC1349 which I'm working with now as both gain blocks and as mixers. I've worked with the MC1590 metal can original 34 years ago and the plastic package 1350 since 31 years ago. I like it as a little block of gain which has low distortion when running balanced input to balanced output...on up to 70 MHz with hardly any gain rolloff. |
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