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![]() (see below) The problem you describe is a nightmare and is not that uncommon but may be very hard to fix. I can only speculate on a few things. One is spurious parasitics (that term covers a lot of situations, including chip behavior that is not part of the specifications). Your oscillator circuit may be oscillating on frequecies (self modulation of the fundamental by the non-fundamental or harmonics and mixing, too?) other than the crystal fundamental. Yes, the mixing could be in your test apparatus other than the test oscillator. Sometimes if you get the receiver hundreds of feet away from the oscillator, then the spurious signals fade out faster. Another way to approach this might be if you use a different receiver (different local oscilator freq, different IF) and see if you pick up the same sets of signals. How about what do you get when you try different crystals? Similar spurious emissions? Try this if you can and tell us what you get. Do you have a _good_ crystal that you know oscillates and know what its frequency is and put that into your test circuit. Does it behave as you expect? I also know and have had crystals that will oscillate in one oscillator circuit but will not oscillate in others. Also, some crystals will NOT oscillate on their fundamental but _will_ oscillate on one or more of their harmonics. Weird but true. ===== no change to below, included for reference and context ===== On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Ben Jackson wrote: I got a bunch of identically (but cryptically) marked crystals that I wanted a ballpark idea about so I built the oscillator part of the Pixie II (up to Q1) and put a scope on it. It was around 20MHz, so I grabbed my HT and tuned around 20MHz to see if I could find it (this, by the way, is why you should not borrow the lcd display from your frequency counter for another project...). What I discovered was several signals above 20MHz (eg 21.040) that only existed when the oscillator was on. I assumed it was picking up something else and mixing it with 20MHz so I tried to find the original signals at 1040kHz but I couldn't. The "mixed" signals were very clear and strong. It was some kind of news (shortwave?) in an Asian language. Where else should I have looked for the base signal? ~41MHz would be in the middle of a government band. -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
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