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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:11:05 GMT, "Asimov"
wrote: My choice would be not to use anti-parallel diodes in a design but this is what I found in the circuit so some engineer thought about it enough to use them. I would have preferentially used a reverse biased diode across the active device's junction because it is usually the reverse polarity in a pulse that damages a junction. Generally a good design and a robust device will be tougher than the diodes frequenty used. For example I've found JFETS will easily stand 40+volts on the gate before failing, MOSFETS (dual gate 3n200 types and BFR998) 60-80V were needed to kill them. Even a lowly 2n5176 bipolar will be grossly overloaded in a wide band amp before possibility of destruction. Remember .5V PP (I'll assume silicon diodes) is at or around -1 to 0DBm. Thats one milliwatt of RF. the real issue is with wide band signals you can have multiple signals within the bandwidth that at some point in the cycle are additive and as we've all said those diodes will do bad things under those conditions. In this question I was more interested on the effect of the protection diodes' capacitance because as you know it is greatest at zero bias. This wideband pre-amp's input stage uses feedback to define the input impedance and the diodes' capacitance is at the node point, so I wondered if there was little effect. As you know, in an inverter the node point is ideally a voltage null. The capacitance if of limited significance. Its' effects will be tempered by topology and impedences at the point of use. As pointed out, they must not see conduction or "bad things happen". _IF_ you really must protect the input with diodes put a healthy (6-12V) of reverse bias on them. That should adequately protect the first device but still absorb transients. For instrumentation applications (high impedence) they are a commonplace thing as the source could be anything or known. For RF use I tend to leave them out as most devices once in circuit are robust as is. And usually uf there is an event big enough to fry the device then protection diodes are just two more fried devices. One exception: series diodes on the supply for reverse polarity protection and Zeners(or transzorbs) on the supply for overvoltage protection. Often destruction didn't come down the antenna but in the back door via the power or other control lines. Thank you both for the great debate! As in most electronics there are subtle and gross effects. Being aware of both are of importance. Hope it helps. Allison KB1GMX |
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