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Old October 23rd 05, 05:38 PM
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TRABEM wrote:
Thanks John,

I did find metalized polypropylene caps in the Mouser catalog. Some
are quite expensive for no apparent reason and a few are inexpensive.
I still don't know why the big cost difference.

There were many pages of metalized polyester film caps, not sure if
they are ok or not. But, they are way cheaper, about half the price of
the lowest priced metalized polystyrene caps.

Are metalized polyester caps just as good as metalized polypropylene
caps?


Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high @ as polystyrene.

You might read through this dielectric tutorial:
http://my.execpc.com/~endlr/film.html
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Old October 23rd 05, 06:26 PM
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John Popelish wrote:
TRABEM wrote:

Thanks John,

I did find metalized polypropylene caps in the Mouser catalog. Some
are quite expensive for no apparent reason and a few are inexpensive.
I still don't know why the big cost difference.

There were many pages of metalized polyester film caps, not sure if
they are ok or not. But, they are way cheaper, about half the price of
the lowest priced metalized polystyrene caps.

Are metalized polyester caps just as good as metalized polypropylene
caps?



Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high @ as polystyrene.


Well, it sort of looks like a Q. That should have read:

Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high Q as polystyrene.
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Old October 23rd 05, 11:06 PM
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John Popelish writes:

TRABEM wrote:
Thanks John,

I did find metalized polypropylene caps in the Mouser catalog. Some
are quite expensive for no apparent reason and a few are inexpensive.
I still don't know why the big cost difference.

There were many pages of metalized polyester film caps, not sure if
they are ok or not. But, they are way cheaper, about half the price of
the lowest priced metalized polystyrene caps.

Are metalized polyester caps just as good as metalized polypropylene
caps?


Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high @ as polystyrene.


You might read through this dielectric tutorial:
http://my.execpc.com/~endlr/film.html


You can easily get Q1000 with polypropylene capactor. Wima made some
really nice ones.
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NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA
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Old October 24th 05, 01:40 AM
TRABEM
 
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Are metalized polyester caps just as good as metalized polypropylene
caps?


Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high @ as polystyrene.


OK John,

I didn't realize that a polyester cap was the same as a 'mylar' cap.
But, it makes sense now that I know.

Some polyester film caps are pretty inexpensive. I might have gone for
them if I didn't need all the Q I can get for this particular antenna.

Thanks for the tip and to all who commented.

T

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Old October 25th 05, 01:16 AM
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TRABEM writes:


Are metalized polyester caps just as good as metalized polypropylene
caps?


Mylar caps are pretty good, but not as stable or as high @ as polystyrene.


Wrap-and-fill polypropylene are a lot better than metalized polyester (mylar
is a trade name for polyester). Mylar also absorbs water and shifts its
Q with time rather badly.

If you care about Q for large values, polypropylene is going to be your
best shot. There are other caps (teflon, and other exotic materials) that
are better, but you also seemed concerned with cost. Higher voltage for the
same value with give a better Q.

Good luck.

Steve.
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NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA


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