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Henry Kiefer December 7th 05 07:20 PM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
Sorry. I found the needed file at CEL website by searching for part number.
- Henry


"Henry Kiefer" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Thanks Saandy! I knew CEL but forget them ;-)

Seems the NE85633 is really cheap and good performance. The package is
reasoable for hobbyists.
Do you already converted the parameters to spice and is it possible to
provide the file to me? Thank you!

Should be a good oscillator and all-purpose amp...


Sure, plain wire is better than the manufactured coils if possible to

apply.

cu -
Henry


"Saandy , 4Z5KS" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
oups.com...
The NE85633 bipolar transistor from California Eastern Laboratories
(CEL) ! very cheap quite stable and with a good noise figure. very well
documented by the manufacturer!
try to fish a development kit of SMD coils from Murata, sometimes they
give them away for free.
I personally prefer to go with air wound inductors, they're better and
quite small at these frequencies.
Saandy 4Z5KS






Winfield Hill December 8th 05 12:05 AM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
Henry Kiefer wrote...

I can buy resistors and capacitors with 5%, sometimes with 1%.
If you build a RC oscillator with 1% component values, you get
an error typical 1,5%.


I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you
get the elusive (affordable) 1% capacitors?


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Thanks,
- Win

Rich Grise December 8th 05 01:51 AM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:05:19 -0800, Winfield Hill wrote:

Henry Kiefer wrote...

I can buy resistors and capacitors with 5%, sometimes with 1%. If you
build a RC oscillator with 1% component values, you get an error typical
1,5%.


I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you get the elusive
(affordable) 1% capacitors?


You have undergrads select them. :-)

Cheers!
Rich



Henry Kiefer December 8th 05 01:44 PM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
For example http://www.wima.de/fkp2.htm
But I think there are other manufacturers too.

- Henry


"Winfield Hill" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Henry Kiefer wrote...

I can buy resistors and capacitors with 5%, sometimes with 1%.
If you build a RC oscillator with 1% component values, you get
an error typical 1,5%.


I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you
get the elusive (affordable) 1% capacitors?


--
Thanks,
- Win




Henry Kiefer December 8th 05 01:46 PM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
OR two capacitors in parallel. The support cap has a nominal value of 1/100
of the bigger cap. So you can tune the bigger.

- Henry


"Rich Grise" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:05:19 -0800, Winfield Hill wrote:

Henry Kiefer wrote...

I can buy resistors and capacitors with 5%, sometimes with 1%. If you
build a RC oscillator with 1% component values, you get an error

typical
1,5%.


I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you get the

elusive
(affordable) 1% capacitors?


You have undergrads select them. :-)

Cheers!
Rich





Hal Murray December 9th 05 02:25 AM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you
get the elusive (affordable) 1% capacitors?


Digikey stocks a handful of Panasonic ECQ-P(Z),
POLYPROPYLENE, Radial, 0.001 to 0.47 uF.

Not a great selection, but probably good enough for
many timing applications if you do the fine tuning with
the size of the R.

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Winfield Hill December 9th 05 03:12 AM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
Hal Murray wrote...

I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you
get the elusive (affordable) 1% capacitors?


Digikey stocks a handful of Panasonic ECQ-P(Z),
POLYPROPYLENE, Radial, 0.001 to 0.47 uF.


That's good to hear of, thanks! The 2% parts I have in stock
are the same series, but cheaper 2% parts. I didn't realize
DigiKey carried so many 1% film capacitor values in stock.


--
Thanks,
- Win

Henry Kiefer December 9th 05 08:43 AM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
For timing purposes I suggest using a ready-to-use clock generator in tiny
SOT-23 or alike. For example from www.linear.com and www.maxim-ic.com
They have a accuracy well in the 2% range and can be tuned with a little
resistor 1%. Maxim sells a 32768Hz variant - crystal controlled.
They're all digital ouput!

Building a 32KHz oscillator with a clock crystal and having sinus output is
really simple with CMOS buffers.
You can mix the signal with RF getting an IF somewhere. Look at the app note
at www.cypress.com how to build a time-code receiver using that concept -
just of the cystral and cypress mixed-signal controller.

- Henry


"Winfield Hill" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Hal Murray wrote...

I have a nice line of 2% caps in stock, but where do you
get the elusive (affordable) 1% capacitors?


Digikey stocks a handful of Panasonic ECQ-P(Z),
POLYPROPYLENE, Radial, 0.001 to 0.47 uF.


That's good to hear of, thanks! The 2% parts I have in stock
are the same series, but cheaper 2% parts. I didn't realize
DigiKey carried so many 1% film capacitor values in stock.


--
Thanks,
- Win




Joel Kolstad December 9th 05 01:49 PM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
Henry,

"Henry Kiefer" wrote in message
...
Building a 32KHz oscillator with a clock crystal and having sinus output is
really simple with CMOS buffers.
You can mix the signal with RF getting an IF somewhere. Look at the app note
at www.cypress.com how to build a time-code receiver using that concept -
just of the cystral and cypress mixed-signal controller.


I don't suppose you have the name and/or number of that application note? I
did a little searching without success to find it.

---Joel Kolstad



Henry Kiefer December 9th 05 03:07 PM

"Standard parts" for rf amps?
 
Here it is Joel:
http://www.spectrum-benelux.com/docs...radioclock.pdf
(Seems that it is not on the cypress site)

If you realize something with the PSoC, then I would like to hear from you.

- Henry



"Joel Kolstad" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
Henry,

"Henry Kiefer" wrote in message
...
Building a 32KHz oscillator with a clock crystal and having sinus output

is
really simple with CMOS buffers.
You can mix the signal with RF getting an IF somewhere. Look at the app

note
at www.cypress.com how to build a time-code receiver using that

concept -
just of the cystral and cypress mixed-signal controller.


I don't suppose you have the name and/or number of that application note?

I
did a little searching without success to find it.

---Joel Kolstad






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