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As an addition to the various mentions of common diodes as varactors
there is a well publicized British design for a frequency tripler that
will put out 2 watts at 1.3 GHz and uses five 1N914's in parallel.

I once built an HF transceiver that used CMOS logic chips for all
functions except an audio low noise amp and a voltage regulator...with
further thought those two could likely be done with CMOS logic too.

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Old November 26th 05, 11:02 PM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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As a youngster I played with TTL DIP-ICs in my chamber and my parents next
room felt that the tv was going crazy. The pins had long wires...

- Henry

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As an addition to the various mentions of common diodes as varactors
there is a well publicized British design for a frequency tripler that
will put out 2 watts at 1.3 GHz and uses five 1N914's in parallel.

I once built an HF transceiver that used CMOS logic chips for all
functions except an audio low noise amp and a voltage regulator...with
further thought those two could likely be done with CMOS logic too.



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Old November 27th 05, 02:54 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
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Am 25 Nov 2005 06:28:21 -0800 schrieb :

As an addition to the various mentions of common diodes as varactors
there is a well publicized British design for a frequency tripler that
will put out 2 watts at 1.3 GHz and uses five 1N914's in parallel.

I once built an HF transceiver that used CMOS logic chips for all
functions except an audio low noise amp and a voltage regulator...with
further thought those two could likely be done with CMOS logic too.

At least the audio amp, this is nice to build with some Inverters (4069)
with resistive Feedback.


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Martin wrote:

I once built an HF transceiver that used CMOS logic chips for all
functions except an audio low noise amp and a voltage regulator...with
further thought those two could likely be done with CMOS logic too.

At least the audio amp, this is nice to build with some Inverters (4069)
with resistive Feedback.


Most of the audio section was done that way. But the product detector
had low impedance output and the CMOS amp was too noisy at 50 ohms. A
transformer might have done the job but a common-base amp seemed more
practical and less prone to picking up hum.

Steve

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"Henry Kiefer" skrev i en meddelelse
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Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?


Unbuffered logic gates can make a really bad but still useful analogue
amplifier by adding feedback and bias.




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Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:

"Henry Kiefer" skrev i en meddelelse
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Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?



Unbuffered logic gates can make a really bad but still useful analogue
amplifier by adding feedback and bias.


E.G the CMOS 4007. See the old handbooks for a '100dB
amplifier' based on a RCA chip - there was a wiring
error in that old description - IIRC it was 3800? -
whatever, the 4007 is the same chip.

Murray vk4aok
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:19:18 +1000, Murray wrote:

Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:


E.G the CMOS 4007. See the old handbooks for a '100dB
amplifier' based on a RCA chip - there was a wiring
error in that old description - IIRC it was 3800? -
whatever, the 4007 is the same chip.


The Motorola McMOS handbook (2nd edition 1974) warns about this usage
by pointing out that by cascading three such AC coupled stages, the
last stage will be saturated by the noise from the first stage.

Paul OH3LWR

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The 4007 is the classic crystal oscillator circuit.
Don't forget the temperature characteristics!

- Henry

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Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:

"Henry Kiefer" skrev i en meddelelse
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Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?



Unbuffered logic gates can make a really bad but still useful analogue
amplifier by adding feedback and bias.


E.G the CMOS 4007. See the old handbooks for a '100dB
amplifier' based on a RCA chip - there was a wiring
error in that old description - IIRC it was 3800? -
whatever, the 4007 is the same chip.

Murray vk4aok



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Henry Kiefer wrote:
Hi all -

After my first thread going from "standard" cheap parts for up to vhf
frequency to a discussion about the usefulness of Spice simulator...... I
try it another time hopefully get attention of frustrated co-readers:

For example the rechtifier diode 1N4007 can be used as a rf switching diode,
for example as rx/tx-switch. This is because it is a pin structure diode.
This type is cheap and you can get it almost everywhere. It shows good
performance for the price. Surely for high-end you should do it with another
type tuned to the application it is made for. But anyway it works in some
circuits.

Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?

Best regards -
Henry


Take one P channel Jfet and one N channel Jfet and connect them
in series so the two sources are together, connect the gate of
each transistor to the other one's drain. This is known as a lambda
connection, and if you plot the voltage vs current from drain to drain
you will see a negative resistance region, usually around 3v
(depending on the transistors). The circuit will work as a tunnel
diode oscillator up to 100-200mhz.
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That is not new to me but thanks!
Is the oscillator useful at 150MegHz? Modulable? Maybe I can make
transmitter...
Tell us more, please.

cu -
Henry


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Henry Kiefer wrote:
Hi all -

After my first thread going from "standard" cheap parts for up to vhf
frequency to a discussion about the usefulness of Spice simulator......

I
try it another time hopefully get attention of frustrated co-readers:

For example the rechtifier diode 1N4007 can be used as a rf switching

diode,
for example as rx/tx-switch. This is because it is a pin structure

diode.
This type is cheap and you can get it almost everywhere. It shows good
performance for the price. Surely for high-end you should do it with

another
type tuned to the application it is made for. But anyway it works in

some
circuits.

Do you know of other interesting devices or circuits good for misuse?

Best regards -
Henry


Take one P channel Jfet and one N channel Jfet and connect them
in series so the two sources are together, connect the gate of
each transistor to the other one's drain. This is known as a lambda
connection, and if you plot the voltage vs current from drain to drain
you will see a negative resistance region, usually around 3v
(depending on the transistors). The circuit will work as a tunnel
diode oscillator up to 100-200mhz.





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