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Plod's Conscience March 11th 06 05:43 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?


Brian Reay March 11th 06 05:49 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?


The Baird system has been superceded by more modern techniques. In fact,
unless you catch up quick, you may miss out a whole generation of technical
improvements that have occured since "Stookie"

Brian



Samuel Hunt March 11th 06 06:12 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
No it won't

How will you bend the beam? Do you propose that people look straight at it?

You would need to get the beam just the right width.


Just face it beanie, you're an idiot, nobody likes you, you have no life and
you'd do us all a favour if you took an overdose of something fatal.....

Sam
M1FJB (Not scared to put my callsign to it for fear of being beaten up by
the police because unlike you I am not sad and don't have violent tendencies
towards the police)

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?




Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI March 11th 06 06:17 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
on 11/03/2006 17:49 Brian Reay said the following:
"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...

My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?



The Baird system has been superceded by more modern techniques. In fact,
unless you catch up quick, you may miss out a whole generation of technical
improvements that have occured since "Stookie"

Brian


Don't disappoint him like that, Brian, the poor guy's only just
discovered electric lights, and he's certainly not the brightest bulb in
the box.
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Old Nicks Deputy \(first class\) March 11th 06 07:24 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver.


I think your question should be "can anyone lend me a fiver"?

HTH

tox



The Magnum March 11th 06 08:11 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
"Old Nicks Deputy (first class)" trabant owners club@Nicks place.comco
wrote in message ...

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver.


I think your question should be "can anyone lend me a fiver"?

HTH

tox


Why? has he been in the locals bins again and been unable to find one?

Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19



know code March 11th 06 08:25 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
The Magnum wrote:
"Old Nicks Deputy (first class)" trabant owners club@Nicks place.comco
wrote in message ...
"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver.

I think your question should be "can anyone lend me a fiver"?

HTH

tox


Why? has he been in the locals bins again and been unable to find one?


What is your fixation with bins? Now you're introducing them to this
thread as well! Do you get a sexual thrill from them or something?


Bob Bob March 11th 06 09:58 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
I'll admit I dont know Baird and the Televisor stuff. (Beyond the
"father of TV "stuff) Lasers though are can be pulse width modulated
(PWM) to pseudo change the spot intensity. In a air comms environment
they are pulsed at some "carrier" frequency and data then sits on top of
that. At the RX end they have a filter at the "carrier" frequency so you
dont get noise etc from other light sources.

Making a picture? Had a brief think about bending light but that physics
is kind of missing in my brain! I think if you used a rotating mirror
array on two axis in front of the beam you might get something
acceptable, be a real cow to manufacture though. Syncing would be
reasonably easy (assuming a standard TV picture signal) but I think the
spot would be a bit large unless you wall projected it.

Colour wouldnt work BTW as the (laser) spot will be one freq only. This
means any filtering or coloured mirrors wont work.

Those laser pointers sound like a nice cheap way to experiment with some
short haul data comms as well.

Bob

Plod's Conscience wrote:

My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?


Butch Magee March 12th 06 01:21 AM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
Plod's Conscience wrote:
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?

What a Televisor?
KF5DE

Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 05:37 AM

TIME TO RESIGN FROM THE RSCB? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
When directors of the RSCB sneer at attempts to promote
discussion, then perhaps it is time for all self-respecting
_REAL_ Radio Hams to resign en masse from the RSCB?

(Is Peter Kirby aware of the way in which his latest pet
lap-dog is pooing on the lounge carpet?)

Brian Reay wrote:
"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?


The Baird system has been superceded by more modern techniques. In fact,
unless you catch up quick, you may miss out a whole generation of technical
improvements that have occured since "Stookie"



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 05:46 AM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
It was the name given to the receiver end of the Baird
mechanical TV system, used by the BBC before
Britland went out and started WWII.

30-line picture, transmitted in audio bandwidth.

A similar scanning system appears (from the nature
of the picture) to be used in some of the security
cameras that rely on detecting bodily emissions.
(Difficulty of getting a sensor that can work over the
area of a pictur)

Butch Magee wrote:
Plod's Conscience wrote:
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?

What a Televisor?
KF5DE



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 05:55 AM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
"superseded"

"quickly"

" "Stookie". "

What is quoted below is a disgraceful exhibition of the
standards of schoolteachers and of L.I.A.R.s today.

Perhaps it is no wonder that those who are candidates
for the gangrenous degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools'
Licence scheme have such difficulty in making any
further progress, especially those who were either too
lazy or too stupid to be able to tackle and then pass a
Morse Code exam intended for 14-year-olds and had to
wait until an exam targetted at 6-year-olds came along?

Brian Reay wrote:

The Baird system has been superceded by more modern techniques. In fact,
unless you catch up quick, you may miss out a whole generation of technical
improvements that have occured since "Stookie"



Old Nicks Deputy \(first class\) March 12th 06 06:41 AM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 

"Nedlar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:58:41 -0600, Bob Bob wrote:



For info only...
John Logie Baird demonstrated colour TV in 1928.


Coincidently, the year of your fiftieth birthday, IIRC.

tox



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 06:49 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
Played with it last night.

Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power, than
those laserpointers powered by watch batteries.

Allowing for the lens that is used to produce the
straight line beam, the spot from the end was
easily picked out on a gravestone 1/4 mile away,
thus suggesting that a tight beam is being produced.

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?

(Brian - in your experiments with the Fullerphone, you
ran away from the question as to whether you crossed
a property boundary, so....

1. Did you cross a property boundary?
2. Why do you run away from this and so many other questions?
3. Is your attitude what we must all now expect from the RSCB?)


Plod's Conscience wrote:
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?



Jimbo... March 12th 06 07:46 AM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 


What a Televisor?
KF5DE


.....it is a bit like an Interositer.



Brian Reay March 12th 06 09:22 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
oups.com...
Played with it last night.

Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power, than
those laserpointers powered by watch batteries.


Given the relative size of AAA and "watch batteries", this is hardly
surprising.

Allowing for the lens that is used to produce the
straight line beam, the spot from the end was
easily picked out on a gravestone 1/4 mile away,
thus suggesting that a tight beam is being produced.


Laser's are coherent sources, the "ASER" stands for Amplification by
Stimulated Emission of Radiation- the crucial phenomena in the operation of
lasers and masers. The emitted photon is in phase with the stimulating
photon.

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read the
detail).


--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk






Gordon Hudson March 12th 06 09:41 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
oups.com...
Played with it last night.

Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power, than
those laserpointers powered by watch batteries.


Given the relative size of AAA and "watch batteries", this is hardly
surprising.

Allowing for the lens that is used to produce the
straight line beam, the spot from the end was
easily picked out on a gravestone 1/4 mile away,
thus suggesting that a tight beam is being produced.


Laser's are coherent sources, the "ASER" stands for Amplification by
Stimulated Emission of Radiation- the crucial phenomena in the operation
of lasers and masers. The emitted photon is in phase with the stimulating
photon.

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read
the detail).



Many years ago Practical Wireless had adesign for turning every ready
torches (the ones with the big 9v batteries) into a transmitter and receiver
by amplitude modulating the bulb.
It actually worked (over about 20 feet).




Brian Reay March 12th 06 09:51 AM

Optical Communications?
 

"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message
...
Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was

something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read
the detail).



Many years ago Practical Wireless had adesign for turning every ready
torches (the ones with the big 9v batteries) into a transmitter and
receiver by amplitude modulating the bulb.
It actually worked (over about 20 feet).


Remember it (or one like it) well- it was one of the many projects I tried
as a youngster. (Same sort of time I played with the Fuller Phone).

With a laser pointer but I'm not sure how linear the transfer function is-
ie is it linear enough to make AM viable. I've not looked into this but
maybe someone will know.

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk








Spike March 12th 06 10:01 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Brian Reay wrote:


"Plod's Conscience" wrote

Played with it last night.


Perhaps he and Nedlar could get together; Nedlar didn't seem to have
much to do last night either.

Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power, than
those laserpointers powered by watch batteries.


Given the relative size of AAA and "watch batteries", this is hardly
surprising.


Well, quite.

The shortest Google search would have turned up the information needed
to avoid him making such an obvious statement. A CR2032 battery has a
capacity of 220 mAh at a current drain of 0.2 m/A.A modern AAA battery
far exceeds that - I've left it as an exercise for the OP to search
for that info..

Allowing for the lens that is used to produce the
straight line beam, the spot from the end was
easily picked out on a gravestone 1/4 mile away,
thus suggesting that a tight beam is being produced.


A 'tight beam' would indicate a spot not much larger than the laser
source. Unfortunately, the lack of *any* objective statement in the
above gives no indication that the beam was 'tight', merely that it
reached it's target.

Laser's are coherent sources, the "ASER" stands for Amplification by
Stimulated Emission of Radiation- the crucial phenomena in the operation of
lasers and masers. The emitted photon is in phase with the stimulating
photon.

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read the
detail).


Nothing new there with Gareth reinventing the wheel; it's very similar
(perhaps part of the same syndrome?) to his continually re-writing
history in his own vein.

from
Aero Spike

Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 10:05 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
Your underlying motivatiopn to pooh-pooh makes you
seem like a fool.

It is the optical path that determines the divergence, or otherwise
of the beam, by dispersion, diffraction, refraction mechanisms,
and not the coherence of the radiation.

(Cue rejoinder by Mrs.Nugatory, given 5 minutes or so, to look
things up on google, to say that monochomatic radiation is
unaffected by a dispersive medium.)

Brian Reay wrote:
"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
oups.com...

Allowing for the lens that is used to produce the
straight line beam, the spot from the end was
easily picked out on a gravestone 1/4 mile away,
thus suggesting that a tight beam is being produced.


Laser's are coherent sources, the "ASER" stands for Amplification by
Stimulated Emission of Radiation- the crucial phenomena in the operation of
lasers and masers. The emitted photon is in phase with the stimulating
photon.



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 10:12 AM

TIME TO RESIGN FROM THE RSCB? (Was : Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?))
 
Your deep-seated motivation to pooh-pooh just serves to
make you look a fool.

If you, as a director of the RSCB unfailingly try to put down
discussion, then perhaps it is a sign that any self-respecting
_REAL_ Radio Ham should resign from the RSCB?

There are many things which have "been done" and yet which
you do. (Apart from a Morse Code test that had "been done"
by otherwise-unqualified self-taught 14-year-olds).

HF Communication had "been done" by thousands, long before
you purchased all the Cheque-Book (CB) rigs that you boast about.

I don't think that I have ever been "interesed", whatever that may
mean.

Brian Reay wrote:
"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
oups.com...

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read the
detail).



Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI March 12th 06 10:23 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallestBaird Televisor?)
 
on 12/03/2006 06:49 Beanie said the following:
Played with it last night.

Same as every other night.
....(_!_)...

Brian Reay March 12th 06 10:29 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
ups.com...
Your underlying motivatiopn to pooh-pooh makes you
seem like a fool.


Someone offers you genuine information, on topic to your post, and you see
it as "pooh-pooh". I can see why you are a "slow learner", to use your own
description of yourself.

It is the optical path that determines the divergence, or otherwise
of the beam, by dispersion, diffraction, refraction mechanisms,
and not the coherence of the radiation.


Eh, no.

A laser will diverge in the absence of a medium.

Degree of collimation and coherence both are factors in divergence and you
are jumbling together a raft of factors that I supect you don't understand
and I know you don't want to learn about.

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk






Brian Reay March 12th 06 10:34 AM

Optical Communications?
 

"Spike" wrote in message
...

A 'tight beam' would indicate a spot not much larger than the laser
source. Unfortunately, the lack of *any* objective statement in the
above gives no indication that the beam was 'tight', merely that it
reached it's target.


I half suspect the lens is present to spread the beam- to make it large
enough to see a worthwhile "spot.

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk




Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 11:16 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
Your underlying motivation to pooh-pooh and to utter rather
silly and childish remarks makes you seem like a fool.

Why do you behave in that way?


Brian Reay wrote:
Someone offers you genuine information, on topic to your post, and you see
it as "pooh-pooh". I can see why you are a "slow learner", to use your own
description of yourself.

A laser will diverge in the absence of a medium.
Degree of collimation and coherence both are factors in divergence and you
are jumbling together a raft of factors that I supect you don't understand
and I know you don't want to learn about.



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 11:28 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
"The Baird system has been superceded by more modern techniques. In
fact,
unless you catch up quick, you may miss out a whole generation of
technical
improvements that have occured since "Stookie" "

An offer of genuine information?

Or the result of a deeply-seated motivation to want to cause
insult?

Stupid boy.

Brian Reay wrote:

Someone offers you genuine information, on topic to your post, and you see
it as "pooh-pooh". I can see why you are a "slow learner", to use your own
description of yourself.



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 12:17 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
Well, you're the expert in behaving like that, and as you
practised it for over 20 years, it probably accounts for
it being uppermost in your mind.

How come you never managed to pass a 12 WPM Morse
Test targetted at 14-year-olds in all that time?

Are you, perhaps, too lazy or too stupid, or both?

How come your objection to a Morse Code exam
being used as a filter to control access to HF suddenly
disappeared when a test down at your level, ie, targetted
at 6-year-olds, came along?

Hypocrisy, perhaps?

"Do as I say and not as I do", perhaps?

Bull****ting and downright lying, perhaps?

Is such two-faced behaviour that to be expected from
all directors of the RSCB?

Brian Reay wrote:
.....a raft of factors that I supect you don't understand
and I know you don't want to learn about.



Plod's Conscience March 12th 06 12:30 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
Mrs Nugatory appeared for a short time in uk.rec.models.engineering
masquerading as, "Novae Artless", but her modus operandi gave her away;
in particular her plagiarising of google articles and attempting to
pass them
off as a facet of the skill which she doesn't have, her obsessive
sneering
at me, and the completely vacuous and nugatory irrelevance of her
contributions.

Will she ever be able to pass even an exam targetted at 6-year-olds
in her desperation to be accepted amongst the fraternity of
_REAL_ Radio Hams?

Seemingly not - Mrs Nugatory and The Numpties are well named!

Nedlar wrote:
Well we seem to be making progress. You are now acknowledging that you
use Google to gather information and are not trying to pass it off as
your own work. Well done, keep it up!



The Magnum March 12th 06 01:22 PM

The smallest Baird Televisor?
 
"Butch Magee" wrote in message
...
Plod's Conscience wrote:
My local garage is selling laser devices that project
a straight line for just under a fiver. I wonder if these
devices (with the lens removed so that they just
produce a single spot) could be modulated to be
the light source in a Baird Televisor?

Also, I wonder what is the smallest such Televisor
that has been produced?

What a Televisor?
KF5DE


A television transmitter.
A broadcaster of television programs; a telecaster.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19



Bob Bob March 12th 06 02:40 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallestBaird Televisor?)
 
What is the efficiency of a laser device like nowadays?

I went to a 3D TV IEEE demo back in the 1970's where the device looked
like a TV but had "depth". Kind of like those kids puppet theatres! The
big thing I remember at the time was the huge power consumption
(1000-2000W?) needed to produce even a moderately lit picture. It was
said at the time that the appliance would probably never be marketed as
a 3DTV in every house would flatten the electricity supply system every
time a football/crickrt match was on!

I cant quite remember the physics or name behind the 3D technique. Some
kind of inteference pattern generation maybe. The name escapes me...

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Spike wrote:


Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power, than
those laserpointers powered by watch batteries.


The shortest Google search would have turned up the information needed
to avoid him making such an obvious statement. A CR2032 battery has a
capacity of 220 mAh at a current drain of 0.2 m/A.A modern AAA battery
far exceeds that - I've left it as an exercise for the OP to search
for that info..


Peter March 12th 06 03:14 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:22:37 GMT, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read the
detail).



The current UK laser record is around 73km I believe... held by G0MFR
and G8LSD. They used standard low power red laser diodes of the kind
found in the pointers. Barry,G8AGN, Gordon G0EWN and myself (all in
Sheffield) are also experimenting on these lines have done a 45km path
so far... using cw. We have some LOS paths up here in the North up to
136km so we're hoping to better the record one day soon :-)

Peter, G3PHO

know code March 12th 06 04:51 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallestBaird Televisor?)
 
Plod's Conscience wrote:

Played with it last night.


What you do in the privacy of your own home is up to you!

Powered as it is by AAA cells, it seems to have
a greater power, and a greater reserve of power


Again, what you do in the privacy of your own home.....

Spike March 12th 06 06:19 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar, hoping that Sunday evening wouldn't turn out like Saturday
evening did, wrote:

Spike wrote:

Perhaps he and Nedlar could get together; Nedlar didn't seem to have
much to do last night either.


Well I certainly didn't waste it doing Google searches, like you do.
Has your copy of the crap film ' Bridges at Toko Ri' bit the dust?


You are quite free to waste your time in any way that you wish; even
on the Internet if you feel so inclined. After all, you say you like
things kept simple. There's no need to feel apologetic.

The shortest Google search would have turned up the information needed
to avoid him making such an obvious statement. A CR2032 battery has a
capacity of 220 mAh at a current drain of 0.2 m/A.A modern AAA battery
far exceeds that - I've left it as an exercise for the OP to search
for that info..


Well we seem to be making progress. You are now acknowledging that you
use Google to gather information and are not trying to pass it off as
your own work. Well done, keep it up!


Unfortunately, you are making no progress whatsoever.

I merely mentioned some characteristics of a typical watch cell,
suggesting that if the OP looked on Google he could have found it out
for himself, thus avoiding posting what he did and looking like a
fool. Is that simple enough for you?

If we could now get you to understand what ' I can't think of anything
else' means, then that would be real progress.


I know you like things kept simple, so I strongly suggest you never
attempt to repair anything at all - you just don't have the brains for
it.

No throwing away of a fine receiver here due to 'nerves', fettling, or
missing pages from the manual. ROFLMAO. In fact, it directly follows
the Gospel According to Gareth, in his (still unqualified and
therefore dangerous) 'repair with gusto' creed; something he has
admitted failing in the past. ROFLMAO.

Is that simple enough for you?

from
Aero Spike

Bob Bob March 12th 06 09:40 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallestBaird Televisor?)
 
Yep thats the word.. Thanks!

Custos Custodum wrote:
Holography?


Spike March 12th 06 11:15 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:19:33 +0000, Spike
wrote:


You are quite free to waste your time in any way that you wish; even
on the Internet if you feel so inclined. After all, you say you like
things kept simple. There's no need to feel apologetic.


Fortunately I am not confined to my house through fear and cowardice
when the children are not at school, unlike yourself, so I have little
time to waste on anything. Unnecessary embellishment of anything is a
complete waste of time and effort. It's a pity you are too stupid to
know this.


Do your neighbours know you have an excessive interest in the school
holidays?

If we could now get you to understand what ' I can't think of anything
else' means, then that would be real progress.


What is it about the above sentence that confuses you?


What is it about "No throwing away of a fine receiver here due to
'nerves', fettling, or missing pages from the manual. ROFLMAO. In
fact, it directly follows the Gospel According to Gareth, in his
(still unqualified and therefore dangerous) 'repair with gusto' creed;
something he has admitted failing in the past. ROFLMAO." that you have
difficulty with? Isn't the statement simple enough for you?


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Spike March 13th 06 10:48 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar The Simpleton Simon wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:15:50 +0000, Spike the
coward wrote:

Do your neighbours know you have an excessive interest in the school
holidays?


My only interest in the holidays are a deep concern for your welfare.
I know that you, being paedophobic, suffer greatly.


Nice try at blame-shifting, but your excessive interest in the timing
of school holidays is entirely down to you, and is a matter of public
record. Perhaps you'd like to ponder the implications of that.

Don't use me as a cover.

If we could now get you to understand what ' I can't think of anything
else' means, then that would be real progress.

What is it about the above sentence that confuses you?

Post the article if your man enough.


If you aren't careful someone will tell your Care in the Community
Social Worker how naughty you've been. You won't like that, she won't
wipe the egg from your face.

No throwing away of a fine receiver here due to 'nerves', fettling, or
missing pages from the manual. ROFLMAO. In fact, it directly follows
the Gospel According to Gareth, in his (still unqualified and
therefore dangerous) 'repair with gusto' creed; something he has
admitted failing in the past. ROFLMAO.

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Aero Spike

Spike March 13th 06 11:54 AM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar wrote, before the nurse took away his computer:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:48:58 +0000, Spike
wrote:


Nice try at blame-shifting, but your excessive interest in the timing
of school holidays is entirely down to you, and is a matter of public
record. Perhaps you'd like to ponder the implications of that.


The blame shifting is entirely yours. It was your original article
that mentioned problems during school holidays. Perhaps you'd like to
ponder on that!


That was very poor...is the medication wearing off?

Don't use me as a cover.

Still not man enough to post the article eh?


Still not technical enough to repost one of your own articles?

If you aren't careful someone will tell your Care in the Community
Social Worker how naughty you've been. You won't like that, she won't
wipe the egg from your face.

No throwing away of a fine receiver here due to 'nerves', fettling, or
missing pages from the manual. ROFLMAO. In fact, it directly follows
the Gospel According to Gareth, in his (still unqualified and
therefore dangerous) 'repair with gusto' creed; something he has
admitted failing in the past. ROFLMAO.

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Aero Spike

Spike March 13th 06 11:17 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:54:53 +0000, Spike
wrote:

That was very poor...is the medication wearing off?

You're getting more childish by the hour. No wonder the kids hate you.
( It's that word again, sorry it frightens you).

Still not man enough to post the article eh?


Still not man enough to repost one of your technical articles?

I thought not.

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Aero Spike

Spike March 14th 06 05:42 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 

Nedlar wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:17:38 +0000, Spike
wrote:


Nedlar wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:54:53 +0000, Spike
wrote:

That was very poor...is the medication wearing off?
You're getting more childish by the hour. No wonder the kids hate you.
( It's that word again, sorry it frightens you).

Still not man enough to post the article eh?


Still not man enough to repost one of your technical articles?

I thought not.

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Aero Spike


Still afraid to tell the truth?


Whatever are you blabbering on about? Truth? Would you know the
meaning of the word? Truth about what?

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Aero Spike

Peter March 14th 06 09:50 PM

Optical Communications? RSCB Irrelevance? (Was : The smallest Baird Televisor?)
 
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:22:37 GMT, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

As these beasties come in a mounting that already
has facilities for screw fixing, perhaps there is
potential capability for optical communications?


Been done. UK record, as of a couple of years back at least, was something
like 75km. There is project in the latest RSGB handbook (if you are
interesed I'll look up the page, I noticed the article but haven't read the
detail).



The current UK laser record is around 73km I believe... held by G0MFR
and G8LSD. They used standard low power red laser diodes of the kind
found in the pointers. Barry,G8AGN, Gordon G0EWN and myself (all in
Sheffield) are also experimenting on these lines have done a 45km path
so far... using cw. We have some LOS paths up here in the North up to
136km so we're hoping to better the record one day soon :-)

Peter, G3PHO


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