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Old March 25th 06, 08:43 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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John,
How about a miniature stereo phono plug? These have 2 signal circuits plus a
ground. They're common, they're available in many PCB configurations, and
they're cheap.

Joe
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Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened
cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.


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Old March 26th 06, 08:08 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Problem with a phono-plug and a clock signal is that you will get reflection
back -- probably much better off with a BNC or SMA connector.

"W3JDR" wrote in message
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John,
How about a miniature stereo phono plug? These have 2 signal circuits plus

a
ground. They're common, they're available in many PCB configurations, and
they're cheap.

Joe
W3JDR


"John Wilkinson" wrote in message
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Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am

using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened
cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.





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Old March 26th 06, 09:20 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.
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Old March 26th 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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The author said it was RS-485. This is a 2-wire differential signalling
system. He also wants to use a shield. Hence the need for 3 circuits. I
doubt that reflections will play any part in the performance, especially
considering that he's using twisted-pair for the signals. This is how CAT5
RS-485 distribution works.

Besides, he's talking about a1 MHz presumably steady-state square-wave clock
and presumably short board-to-board connection lengths.


Joe
W3JDR


"jack" wrote in message
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Problem with a phono-plug and a clock signal is that you will get
reflection
back -- probably much better off with a BNC or SMA connector.

"W3JDR" wrote in message
news:NXhVf.9224$6%2.4606@trnddc08...
John,
How about a miniature stereo phono plug? These have 2 signal circuits
plus

a
ground. They're common, they're available in many PCB configurations, and
they're cheap.

Joe
W3JDR


"John Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am

using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened
cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.







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Old March 27th 06, 09:01 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:19:01 GMT, W3JDR wrote:

The author said it was RS-485. This is a 2-wire differential signalling
system. He also wants to use a shield. Hence the need for 3 circuits. I
doubt that reflections will play any part in the performance, especially
considering that he's using twisted-pair for the signals. This is how CAT5
RS-485 distribution works.

Besides, he's talking about a1 MHz presumably steady-state square-wave clock
and presumably short board-to-board connection lengths.


Joe
W3JDR


"jack" wrote in message
...
Problem with a phono-plug and a clock signal is that you will get
reflection
back -- probably much better off with a BNC or SMA connector.

"W3JDR" wrote in message
news:NXhVf.9224$6%2.4606@trnddc08...
John,
How about a miniature stereo phono plug? These have 2 signal circuits
plus

a
ground. They're common, they're available in many PCB configurations, and
they're cheap.

Joe
W3JDR


"John Wilkinson" wrote in message
news Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am

using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened
cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.





HI,
Yes this is a differential signale, so needs 2 connections plus ground for
the shield.

I have looked for these stereo phono plugs, but to no avail, any idea who
stocks them, RS/Farnell numbers.

Thanks,
John.


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Old March 27th 06, 11:28 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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John,

Over here we'd just run down to the nearest Radio Shack store, or if we had
to mail-order them we'd go to Digikey (www.digikey.com) or Mouser
www.mouser.com). Here is a link to a digikey catalog page that shows the
different types they carry:
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T061/0304.pdf

Also, here is a link to a Digikey search page from which you can narrow your
search down to a specific type and stock number:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...S&Cat=32440884

If you follow the above link to a specific connector, you'll eventually get
to a page that has the manufacturer's web sites and datasheet information.
This might help you at least pick a connector type, then go to the
manufacturer's web page and find out who stocks the part in your area.

Joe
W3JDR


"John Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:19:01 GMT, W3JDR wrote:

The author said it was RS-485. This is a 2-wire differential signalling
system. He also wants to use a shield. Hence the need for 3 circuits. I
doubt that reflections will play any part in the performance, especially
considering that he's using twisted-pair for the signals. This is how
CAT5
RS-485 distribution works.

Besides, he's talking about a1 MHz presumably steady-state square-wave
clock
and presumably short board-to-board connection lengths.


Joe
W3JDR


"jack" wrote in message
...
Problem with a phono-plug and a clock signal is that you will get
reflection
back -- probably much better off with a BNC or SMA connector.

"W3JDR" wrote in message
news:NXhVf.9224$6%2.4606@trnddc08...
John,
How about a miniature stereo phono plug? These have 2 signal circuits
plus
a
ground. They're common, they're available in many PCB configurations,
and
they're cheap.

Joe
W3JDR


"John Wilkinson" wrote in message
news Hi,
I have a 1MHz clock that I need to disribute to several boards. I am
using
RS485 drivers and receivers to do this, along with twisted screened
cable.

The question is that I need a 2 pole pcb connector that is screened.
Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks,
John.





HI,
Yes this is a differential signale, so needs 2 connections plus ground for
the shield.

I have looked for these stereo phono plugs, but to no avail, any idea who
stocks them, RS/Farnell numbers.

Thanks,
John.



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Old March 27th 06, 11:57 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Hi

I would use a USB connector and cable. These contain two (possibly
three) twisted pair with a shield around them. They are controlled to
93 ohms differential impedance, and do not have significant reflections
below 1 Ghz when terminated properly. They are cheap and plentiful,
and available in a variety of sizes for PCB mount.

Mouser sells a good assortment--I usually go for the 'B' size for PCBs.
I use these for an RF differential probe I designed, with good
results.

There are also lines of shielded telephone connectors and cable
available. For a 1 Mhz clock these would do well, and do not have as
low an impedance, which might be easier for your 485 drivers to work
into.

Regards,
Glenn

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