On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:35:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote in :

[SNIP]

*plonk*

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John Navas wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:35:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote in :

[SNIP]

*plonk*

Fat lot of good that will do you, you stupid plonker.

One of the locals mentioned doing a bit of "war driving" around town
just for curiosity. About 80 to 90% of the networks heard were
unencrypted AND over half of those _still_used_
the_default_name_and_PW.

Yep ... really bad ... shame on the wireless hardware companies!
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You probably mean 'shame on the users' who haven't got a clue.

By the way it is the same situation here in the north of Scotland .
Driving in Inverness you can freely access WiFi points allover town
,from commercial companies to hotels..........but not at locations where
you would expect it ....like 'Starbuck' and bookshops like 'Borders'
Also in California you have to pay for WiFi access at
Starbuck.........must constitute a increasing part of their
income,considering the number of people with laptops.....usually without
a coffee..

I know ,I know ...life isn't a freebee

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Highland Ham wrote:

By the way it is the same situation here in the north of Scotland .
Driving in Inverness you can freely access WiFi points allover town
,from commercial companies to hotels..........but not at locations where
you would expect it ....like 'Starbuck' and bookshops like 'Borders'

This will go on until the Scotish police start doing what the English do.
They track traffic at the ISP level looking for "kidde porn". Once they
find it, they locate the person sending or receiving the files.

They have no trouble getting a warrant and come in and arrest the owner of
the account and confiscate their equipment.

As soon as they do this, "users" will go looking for unencrypted
networks and use them, if they don't know I don't know Scotish law, but
in most places the owner of the network is responsible for what is done
with it.

There was a case in Canada of a man found driving five miles per hour
in a residential neighborhood. When the police stopped him, his pants
were around his ankles and there was a laptop on his lap.

Canada unlike most places has a law prohibiting using other people's internet
connections without permission. Most places don't.

Geoff.

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:53:18 +0100, Highland Ham
wrote in
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One of the locals mentioned doing a bit of "war driving" around town
just for curiosity. About 80 to 90% of the networks heard were
unencrypted AND over half of those _still_used_
the_default_name_and_PW.

Yep ... really bad ... shame on the wireless hardware companies!
========================
You probably mean 'shame on the users' who haven't got a clue.

No, I mean shame on the wireless hardware companies, as I wrote, for
such a gross disservice to their customers -- it shouldn't be necessary
to be an IT expert to use Wi-Fi safely. It should just work properly.
Otherwise it's not ready for the market.

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