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From: Clive White
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Subject: RFD: uk.radio.amateur (remove)
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:

delete newsgroup uk.radio.amateur



*** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***

This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Further procedural details are given below.

RATIONALE: uk.radio.amateur

The newsgroup uk.radio.amateur should be removed from the hierarchy as
it has irretrievably descended into a group where trolling, flames and
personal attacks make up the vast majority (regularly to the point of
100%) of posted content. The trolling and attacks routinely spill over
from uk.radio.amateur into other newsgroups in the UK hierarchy and
Big 8, ruining innocent bystanders enjoyment of usenet. There is no
realistic expectation that the trolls' behaviour will change. The
group has been this way for many years already. The impact on the UK
hierarchy management newsgroups has been particularly bad with them
often rendered unusable for days or weeks at a time. This is arguably
a direct threat to the credibility and future of the hierarchy.

There now exists a second amateur radio group in UK,
uk.radio.amateur.moderated. Any users of uk.radio.amateur who wish to
discuss amateur radio on UK are able to do so there. There are also
many other unmoderated amateur radio newsgroups in other hierarchies,
including free.uk.amateur-radio. Removing uk.radio.amateur from UK
will not deprive anybody of the opportunity to discuss amateur radio
on Usenet but it will deprive the trolls of their long-term base. It
will also remove a direct threat and nuisance to UK and its users.



CHARTER:
uk.radio.amateur

This group is intended to provide a forum for discussion of amateur
radio in the UK.

END CHARTER

PROCEDU

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be raised
and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
days, starting from when this RFD is posted to uk.net.news.announce
(i.e. until January 22nd) after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
Alternatively, the proposal may proceed by the fast-track method. Please
do not attempt to vote until this happens.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the "Guidelines for Group Creation
within the UK Hierarchy" as published regularly in uk.net.news.announce
and is available from http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html (the UK
Usenet website). Please refer to this document if you have any questions
about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.radio.amateur

Proponent:
Clive White

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