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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
ROTFLMAO!!!! Now there's a parade I'll march in!
Amen, bro. rb wrote in message ... I have a better idea. Lets require all Ham radio operators take an I.Q. test. Only upon passing the test would an operator be allowed Amateur privileges. A score of 130 would be required. This would eliminate 98% of hams and also eliminate overcrowding of the band. The 98% of Amateurs who flunk would automatically be termed CBers. This shouldn't be a problem because 98% of Amateurs are nothing but self glorified CBers anyway. They just would never admit it. Problem solved. |
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(OT) : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ?
Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements required for their license class. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Tnx, 73 SC SC - So... Why Cross-Post this to a Shortwave Listener's (SWL) Radio NewsGroup ? ? ? Shortwave Listening (SWL) - No License Required [.] ~ RHF Then again may be your Question should be : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ? |
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(OT) : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ?
RHF wrote: Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. SC SC - So... Why Cross-Post this to a Shortwave Listener's (SWL) Radio NewsGroup ? ? ? becuase he is a troll deserate for attention Shortwave Listening (SWL) - No License Required [.] ~ RHF Then again may be your Question should be : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ? . . . . |
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(OT) : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ?
"RHF" wrote in
ps.com: Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements required for their license class. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Tnx, 73 SC SC - So... Why Cross-Post this to a Shortwave Listener's (SWL) Radio NewsGroup ? ? ? Shortwave Listening (SWL) - No License Required [.] ~ RHF Then again may be your Question should be : If you had to Study to get a CB License ? - Would you become a Ham ? . . . . I'd be both, but the CB'ers would have to agree to: 1: No more automatic renewals. CB'ers must retest and pass all elements required for the Extra class. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. 3: Code elements, 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra and CB'ers. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Tnx, 73, Keep up the good work. Burp. ~SC |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
You could eliminate the tests, or you could increase passing levels and
I suspect the results would be the same. Fewer and fewer people joining the hobby. Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. 1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements required for their license class. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable. Tnx, 73 SC |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com... You could eliminate the tests, or you could increase passing levels and I suspect the results would be the same. Fewer and fewer people joining the hobby. There are MANY reasons why ham may not be as popular. NO ONE reason is THE reason. Code sure isn't it. It didn't stop the many who desired a license from persuing it. If you want to do it - you will - simple as that. EFFORT is the name of the game! Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. Many a fine CBer has moved up to Ham - and improved the hobby. CODE didn't keep the scum of the bands from operating there ON CB OR now in the Ham bands. SO - CODE IS NOT THE REASON. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. Tnx, 73 SC With the way you've been talking - you (SC) couldn't even do 85%. SO, you'd be cutting yourself out. I've said it before, I'll say it again - there are MANY things in life you MUST learn to get by, some by pure need or desire. You "LEARNED" to drive, had to study the rules of the road. You "LEARNED" how to do many other things - and I'm damned sure "studied" things in school - maybe even college or post high school to get to where you wanted to be - maybe took an exam for a job promotion. HAM is just one more thing to "learn". For Christs sakes, if you had EVERYTHING handed to you - it wouldn't be worth having. To JUST have a "DRIVER'S LICENSE" "GIVEN" to you - would produce havoc on our roads. To JUST GIVE AWAY "PILOTS LICENSES - would be devastating to many when they come crashing down. To JUST "GIVE" Radio Licenses away - regardless class or whatever - would produce havoc on the air waves. SOMEWHERE - there HAS to be SOME control. ANYONE not willing to work for something - is PURE LAZY.................. NO other way to put it. I suppose those of you whining and bitching - never had the pleasure of "satisfaction" KNOWING you "passed" a test by KNOWING the material - NOT having it given to you. THIS isn't ALL JUST about code anymore - our whole freaking nation is dumbing down and that is SAD. AND it is getting to be a "lawless" society where no one cares anymore - they do as they damned well please. Be it on the telephone, radio, highway, waterways, in the air......... where ever - doing whatever - they're not supposed to be doing. Step on your neighbors rights but damned if they're to step on yours. That logic creates more troubles. This sort of thread will continue as long as there are whiners who don't want to EARN a privelage - they want it "handed" to them. No wonder this country and/or world is so screwed up. L. |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
The point I was trying to make is that the amateur radio hobby matured
about 3 decades ago. It's membership is aging rapidly and the number of active participants is declining. As the baby boomer generation dies off at an increasing rate the amateur radio hobby will continue to fade away. Fiddling with the test requirements isn't going to magically entice younger blood away from the many other license-free ways of communicating. I would venture to say that you could open the ham bands completely CB style and not get a big jump in membership. There are just too many other interesting, easy to use ways of communicating that that younger people are accustomed to using. I wish it were otherwise. Making the ham radio test more of a challenge as you suggest misses the point completely. The point is that there will be a diminishing number of people with any interest becoming a ham, no matter what the requirements are. L. wrote: "John S." wrote in message oups.com... You could eliminate the tests, or you could increase passing levels and I suspect the results would be the same. Fewer and fewer people joining the hobby. There are MANY reasons why ham may not be as popular. NO ONE reason is THE reason. Code sure isn't it. It didn't stop the many who desired a license from persuing it. If you want to do it - you will - simple as that. EFFORT is the name of the game! Slow Code wrote: Let's keep the CB'ers on CB. Many a fine CBer has moved up to Ham - and improved the hobby. CODE didn't keep the scum of the bands from operating there ON CB OR now in the Ham bands. SO - CODE IS NOT THE REASON. 2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%. Tnx, 73 SC With the way you've been talking - you (SC) couldn't even do 85%. SO, you'd be cutting yourself out. I've said it before, I'll say it again - there are MANY things in life you MUST learn to get by, some by pure need or desire. You "LEARNED" to drive, had to study the rules of the road. You "LEARNED" how to do many other things - and I'm damned sure "studied" things in school - maybe even college or post high school to get to where you wanted to be - maybe took an exam for a job promotion. HAM is just one more thing to "learn". For Christs sakes, if you had EVERYTHING handed to you - it wouldn't be worth having. To JUST have a "DRIVER'S LICENSE" "GIVEN" to you - would produce havoc on our roads. To JUST GIVE AWAY "PILOTS LICENSES - would be devastating to many when they come crashing down. To JUST "GIVE" Radio Licenses away - regardless class or whatever - would produce havoc on the air waves. SOMEWHERE - there HAS to be SOME control. ANYONE not willing to work for something - is PURE LAZY.................. NO other way to put it. I suppose those of you whining and bitching - never had the pleasure of "satisfaction" KNOWING you "passed" a test by KNOWING the material - NOT having it given to you. THIS isn't ALL JUST about code anymore - our whole freaking nation is dumbing down and that is SAD. AND it is getting to be a "lawless" society where no one cares anymore - they do as they damned well please. Be it on the telephone, radio, highway, waterways, in the air......... where ever - doing whatever - they're not supposed to be doing. Step on your neighbors rights but damned if they're to step on yours. That logic creates more troubles. This sort of thread will continue as long as there are whiners who don't want to EARN a privelage - they want it "handed" to them. No wonder this country and/or world is so screwed up. L. |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
"John S." wrote in message
oups.com... The point I was trying to make is that the amateur radio hobby matured about 3 decades ago. It's membership is aging rapidly and the number of active participants is declining. As the baby boomer generation dies off at an increasing rate the amateur radio hobby will continue to fade away. Fiddling with the test requirements isn't going to magically entice younger blood away from the many other license-free ways of communicating. I would venture to say that you could open the ham bands completely CB style and not get a big jump in membership. There are just too many other interesting, easy to use ways of communicating that that younger people are accustomed to using. I wish it were otherwise. Making the ham radio test more of a challenge as you suggest misses the point completely. The point is that there will be a diminishing number of people with any interest becoming a ham, no matter what the requirements are. You "could" be and may very well be right in that regard as to the numbers increasing or not if the bands were completely opened. But since most of this crap evolved around CODE and then the "learning" ability of "exam" material - those issues are not the complete problem. As I said, if you want to "learn" anything, effort is the key. All through our lives, we all have to LEARN "something" to make us who/what we are in life. You learn to do your job, even if it isn't from a text book. But, you have to admit - except for sweeping floors, pumping gas, washing windows, etc......... it DOES take "effort" to learn the tasks. Once you master them - then usually it is a piece of cake. "Learning" should never end for anyone - until their number is up here on earth. In code, you learn ._ is "A". In driving - you learn to put your left turn signal on and then turn the wheel left - to make a left turn in your vehicle. In a factory or on a construction job - you learn hand signals to instruct a crane-man at a job site. Whatever it is - you learn "something" to get you by in life - be it a job, hobby or whatever. In most cases (except code) - NOT learning - could get you or others injured or killed. I DOUBT - anyone jumped in a car the first day and went and passed their drivers exam - it took EFFORT to learn to drive (safely). I DOUBT anyone - jumped in a plane and passed their pilots test the first time in the plane - it took EFFORT. Even to pass a physical ability test for some jobs - TAKES EFFORT. Any SOLDIER or PRO or even high school/college athlete who has excelled - will tell you that. To the screwball who said BULL **** to "effort" - he claims to be an EME user on his website. I'm DAMNED sure he didn't just wake up one day and decide to try EME - and be eh - fair(?) at it! SOMEWHERE along the line - it took EFFORT to acquire the knowledge, license and materials to do so. Too bad he doesn't make some "effort" to "spell" properly - MOST of his bull **** has been misspelled so poorly, he comes across as a tard. No wonder he gets picked on......... Misspelled words, "NEEDED" wars, etc.......... SHEESH. I misspell a word here and there once in a while in error - as do many others. BUT there are SOME who seem to KILL IT when it comes to spelling. They never heard of "spell check"? Can't even make effort to use THAT to make them look a bit brighter. It doesn't matter how easy or hard the tests are - Code or NO Code - the point here in this thread and others similar is - it seems some want it "handed" to them and all I'm saying is EFFORT will help you get it and you'll be rewarded - your achievement - be it a license, an upgrade in license OR a job promotion with subsequent pay raise or position. So what if you never use the code again to save a life or just to chat on the air - who cares? To pass the muster for some promotions in the service, you have to prove physical ability, and some of those things needed to be done - you may never have to make use of again. Tell your senior officer you're not going to do it and see what you hear in return........... IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH - YOU"LL DO IT. Of course - weinie boy who thinks effort is bull **** and believes we NEEDED wars - wouldn't have a clue. So the quiestion is now - did he cheat on his exam and had his license handed to him OR have the equipment donated to not have to make the EFFORT to acquire it all? Opening up the bands won't be the answer to the "population" of the bands. IF I were God, had a Crystal Ball, I might be able to give the "exact" answer. I've "never" claimed to have it nor do I now. All I can say, is we know where we're headed and it will be interesting in say 5 years or so - to see how we do indeed end up. Changes "could" come about to revive it, open the bands up OR shut them down. Right now, they are somewhat protected by Vongress, but the Congress members are usually able to be bought out by special interest groups - so - NEVER SAY NEVER............ we could be sold out next year if enough of them get their heads together. Then - all of these threads will be moot points. Hell, we may end up paying to type/read this - over and above our ISP payment. There WAS a move to do so......... Nothing to say it couldn't happen if someone tries it again. L. |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH - YOU"LL DO IT. Of course - weinie boy who thinks
effort is bull **** and believes we NEEDED wars - wouldn't have a clue. So the quiestion is now - did he cheat on his exam and had his license handed to him OR have the equipment donated to not have to make the EFFORT to acquire it all? .... Weinie Boy is, by nature, lazy. He is NOT the bread winner in his family and, indeed, sits home all day giving excuses as to why he cannot obtain gainful employment. And forget trying to shame this obtuse leech into procuring and utilizing a spell check program. He knows better...he's simply too lazy, preferring instead to sit on his rotund arse while he flames Usenet with his drivel. There are three things you can't give Mark. 1. A job. 2. A fat lip. 3. Ambition. |
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If you had to study to get a ham licence, would you stay on CB?
wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:46:29 -0400, "L." wrote: "John S." wrote in message roups.com... The point I was trying to make is that the amateur radio hobby matured about 3 decades ago. It's membership is aging rapidly and the number of active participants is declining. As the baby boomer generation dies off at an increasing rate the amateur radio hobby will continue to fade away. Fiddling with the test requirements isn't going to magically entice younger blood away from the many other license-free ways of communicating. I would venture to say that you could open the ham bands completely CB style and not get a big jump in membership. There are just too many other interesting, easy to use ways of communicating that that younger people are accustomed to using. I wish it were otherwise. Making the ham radio test more of a challenge as you suggest misses the point completely. The point is that there will be a diminishing number of people with any interest becoming a ham, no matter what the requirements are. You "could" be and may very well be right in that regard as to the numbers increasing or not if the bands were completely opened. But since most of this crap evolved around CODE and then the "learning" ability of "exam" material - those issues are not the complete problem. As I said, if you want to "learn" anything, effort is the key ..more from the s&M shcool of lincense http://www.marksspamblog.blogspot.com/ |
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