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Paul W. Schleck wrote: In . com " writes: Did I "fault" Jeffrey Hermann? Only in that this junior college instructor titles himself as a "mathematics lecturer." :-) He claimed (twice) that the ARRL Amateur's Handbook was on "best- seller" lists. The ABA (American Booksellers Association) has NO record of that. Jeffie-poo is a confirmed morseman and pro-code-test just like you and Miccolis. As the usual pro-coder's reaction, he got upset at any negativism about morsemanship. Jeffrey Herman claimed that the Radio Amateur's Handbook was named as an all-time best seller by Time Magazine in the non-fiction category: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c34ccd1?hl=en& According to the article in Time (from 1968, not 1970), it was #16: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...837843,00.html clap clap clap that is just baerly within my LIFETIME |
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Paul W. Schleck wrote:
Jeffrey Herman claimed that the Radio Amateur's Handbook was named as an all-time best seller by Time Magazine in the non-fiction category: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c34ccd1?hl=en& According to the article in Time (from 1968, not 1970), it was #16: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...837843,00.html So it was a best seller! Jeff noted that it was the best selling technical book on the list. I suppose that depends on whether one considers cookbooks and Dr. Spock's baby and child care books to be 'technical'. The ARRL Radio Amateur's Handbook is certainly the best-selling book on radio on that list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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Paul W. Schleck wrote:
In . com " writes: Did I "fault" Jeffrey Hermann? Only in that this junior college instructor titles himself as a "mathematics lecturer." :-) He claimed (twice) that the ARRL Amateur's Handbook was on "best- seller" lists. The ABA (American Booksellers Association) has NO record of that. Jeffie-poo is a confirmed morseman and pro-code-test just like you and Miccolis. As the usual pro-coder's reaction, he got upset at any negativism about morsemanship. Jeffrey Herman claimed that the Radio Amateur's Handbook was named as an all-time best seller by Time Magazine in the non-fiction category: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c34ccd1?hl=en& According to the article in Time (from 1968, not 1970), it was #16: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...837843,00.html Thanks, Paul. Another Len Anderson rant has just become vapor *poof*. Dave K8MN |
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From: Paul W. Schleck on Fri, Sep 29 2006 4:14 pm
Did I "fault" Jeffrey Hermann? Only in that this junior college instructor titles himself as a "mathematics lecturer." :-) He claimed (twice) that the ARRL Amateur's Handbook was on "best- seller" lists. The ABA (American Booksellers Association) has NO record of that. Jeffie-poo is a confirmed morseman and pro-code-test just like you and Miccolis. As the usual pro-coder's reaction, he got upset at any negativism about morsemanship. Jeffrey Herman claimed that the Radio Amateur's Handbook was named as an all-time best seller by Time Magazine in the non-fiction category: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c34ccd1?hl=en& According to the article in Time (from 1968, not 1970), it was #16: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...837843,00.html Yes, that is what Time magazine claimed in 1968. But... here is MORE of what Time magazine wrote, after the title: "1926 3,800,000" Now, in the book trade and in the newspapers, "best sellers" are listed per week or per month or per year. The ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook began being published in the twenties. The time between 1926 and 1968 is 42 years. I didn't bother to check if this handbook was published during WW2 years. If it was not, then there are only 38 years between 1926 and 1968. Are ALL of the Handbooks identical? I don't think so. The AVERAGE PER YEAR publishing of the handbook comes out to 100,000 per year for 3.8 million total over 38 years (90,476 per year for 42 years). That hardly ever qualifies as a "best seller" publication. Let's do a comparison between the ARRL Handbook and "The World Almanac and Book of Facts." I have a 2006 copy. Continuously published since 1886 (a total of 120 years), "World Almanac" claims "80 Million Copies Sold" on its 2006 cover. Now each year's Almanac WILL be different. The AVERAGE PER YEAR editions of that comes out to be 666 2/3 thousand per year. Further, "World Almanac" claims to be "#1 on the New York Times Bestsell" (also on the 2006 cover). Two-thirds of a million per year IS "best seller" qualification. Editions in the past two decades runs more to a 'Mil' per year. Perhaps more. Is the Bible on that Time list? I don't see it. Of course that would be a contentious subject. Heretics would want it in the "fiction" category, I'm sure. :-) But, I digress. Your chief interest seems to be in trying to destroy the credibility of a not-licensed in the amateur radio service person (although one who has been licensed as a Commercial radio operator since 1956). Have you really done that? Are you really going to nit-pick about an old posting by another and reference a 1968 Time magazine article? Yes, I'm sure you really, really WANT to do that! :-) By the bye, how are you coming with my Background Check? You know, the one where you MUST know my "personal, non-professional life"? No neighbor has reported any "investigator" flashing their shield and wanting to speak about me. The FBI has done that before. Twice. I passed muster enough for a security clearance, Paul. Twice. Are the newsgroup standards now HIGHER than a national security clearance? Must be...! Have you written the IEEE yet to complain about my conduct in here? No? Why not? You are free to do so. Do you think it will matter to the IEEE? If so, please explain in 30,000 words or more WHY. (that's a 'short novel' length) Be sure and tell the pro-coders about your findings. The Inquisition can't get along without you... You really ought to search the ByteBrothers. :-) |
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In . com " writes:
But, I digress. Your chief interest seems to be in trying to destroy the credibility of a not-licensed in the amateur radio service person (although one who has been licensed as a Commercial radio operator since 1956). Have you really done that? Are you really going to nit-pick about an old posting by another and reference a 1968 Time magazine article? Yes, I'm sure you really, really WANT to do that! :-) What an obnoxious quibble. You misquote and falsely accuse Jeffrey Herman with an absolute statement. One which only a requires a simple rebuttal that: - Shows what Jeffrey Herman *really* said. - Shows convincing, third-party, evidence that supports what Jeffrey Herman *really* said. You choose to "rebut" with filibuster and insult, implying that it was dumb or pedantic to even argue the point, let alone try to find the supporting evidence. Since you're apparently fond of absolute statements, here's another one: No one else, not even your nominal "supporters" here, will post to this newsgroup and agree with you on your misquote of Jeffrey Herman. Unless, of course, you want to dig up some sock-puppets, like Avery Fineman, again. -- Paul W. Schleck, K3FU http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key |
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[...] By the bye, how are you coming with my Background Check? You know, the one where you MUST know my "personal, non-professional life"? No neighbor has reported any "investigator" flashing their shield and wanting to speak about me. The FBI has done that before. Twice. I passed muster enough for a security clearance, Paul. Twice. Are the newsgroup standards now HIGHER than a national security clearance? Must be...! And you misunderstand, Len. No deep background check is necessary. Your very public (mis)conduct here is more than enough basis for your peers to judge. Have you written the IEEE yet to complain about my conduct in here? No? Why not? You are free to do so. Do you think it will matter to the IEEE? If so, please explain in 30,000 words or more WHY. (that's a 'short novel' length) Be sure and tell the pro-coders about your findings. The Inquisition can't get along without you... You and I know very well that only IEEE members having standing to submit ethical complaints to the IEEE against a member, according to IEEE policy. I'm sure that you would take pains to remind us of that if anyone else tried. You really ought to search the ByteBrothers. :-) -- Paul W. Schleck. K3FU http://www.novia.net/~pschleck/ Finger for PGP Public Key |
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Paul W. Schleck wrote: In . com " writes: [...] By the bye, how are you coming with my Background Check? You know, the one where you MUST know my "personal, non-professional life"? No neighbor has reported any "investigator" flashing their shield and wanting to speak about me. The FBI has done that before. Twice. I passed muster enough for a security clearance, Paul. Twice. Are the newsgroup standards now HIGHER than a national security clearance? Must be...! And you misunderstand, Len. No deep background check is necessary. Your very public (mis)conduct here is more than enough basis for your peers to judge. you statesment are exactly no one seems to keen on the concept of moderating the NG indeed the attiue that it is is misconduct to try and protect ones name from libelous attack is misconduct makes highly dubious of your efforts to create a moderated NG |
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From: Paul W. Schleck on Fri, Sep 29 2006 4:14 pm Did I "fault" Jeffrey Hermann? KH6O's last name is spelled "Herman". Len. One 'n'. You also forgot the "Ph.D." which he holds. Only in that this junior college instructor titles himself as a "mathematics lecturer." :-) He teaches mathematics courses at a Community College that is part of the University of Hawaii. How is "mathematics lecturer" in any way inaccurate? Why should anyone "fault" him for that? Have *you* ever taught mathematics at a college or university, Len? He claimed (twice) that the ARRL Amateur's Handbook was on "best- seller" lists. Not exactly. He claimed it was on a list of all-time non-fiction best selling books. And it was! Is that a reason to "fault" someone? The ABA (American Booksellers Association) has NO record of that. So? It wasn't an ABA best-seller list. It was a Time magazine best-seller list. Jeffie-poo Len, who is "Jeffie-poo"? is a confirmed morseman and pro-code-test Define "morseman" for us, please. It's not in either of the Webster's dicionaries I checked. As the usual pro-coder's reaction, he got upset at any negativism about morsemanship. "Morsemanship" isn't in those dictionaries, either. Have you forgotten how you "faulted" him for his description of his experiences as a United States Coast Guard radio operator, Len? Jeffrey Herman claimed that the Radio Amateur's Handbook was named as an all-time best seller by Time Magazine in the non-fiction category: And it was! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c34ccd1?hl=en& According to the article in Time (from 1968, not 1970), it was #16: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...837843,00.html Yes, that is what Time magazine claimed in 1968. But... here is MORE of what Time magazine wrote, after the title: "1926 3,800,000" Why is that important? Now, in the book trade and in the newspapers, "best sellers" are listed per week or per month or per year. Those are *short-term* lists of what is selling in the bookstores. The Time Magazine list was an "all-time" bestseller list. The ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook began being published in the twenties. 1926, to be exact. The time between 1926 and 1968 is 42 years. I didn't bother to check if this handbook was published during WW2 years. If it was not, then there are only 38 years between 1926 and 1968. There were special "Defense" editions published during WW2. They were used as training texts in some courses. Are ALL of the Handbooks identical? I don't think so. Neither are the other books on the Time list. Spock's "Baby And Child Care" and the cookbooks on the list have gone through many revisions. The AVERAGE PER YEAR publishing of the handbook comes out to 100,000 per year for 3.8 million total over 38 years (90,476 per year for 42 years). That hardly ever qualifies as a "best seller" publication. Sure it does. Otherwise it would not have made it onto the Time list. Let's do a comparison between the ARRL Handbook and "The World Almanac and Book of Facts." Why? I have a 2006 copy. Continuously published since 1886 (a total of 120 years), "World Almanac" claims "80 Million Copies Sold" on its 2006 cover. Now each year's Almanac WILL be different. The AVERAGE PER YEAR editions of that comes out to be 666 2/3 thousand per year. Further, "World Almanac" claims to be "#1 on the New York Times Bestsell" (also on the 2006 cover). Two-thirds of a million per year IS "best seller" qualification. Editions in the past two decades runs more to a 'Mil' per year. Perhaps more. But how many were sold by 1968? I don't think you know, Len. You're using today's numbers and assuming the sales didn't change much. That's not a valid assumption. Is the Bible on that Time list? I don't see it. Of course that would be a contentious subject. Heretics would want it in the "fiction" category, I'm sure. :-) Do you think the Bible is literally true, Len? But, I digress. You do that all the time. The main point is this: Jeffrey Herman, Ph. D., teaches mathematics at the college level - yet you admit you "faulted" him for referring to himself as a "mathematics lecturer". He also correctly wrote that a certain book was on an all-time bestseller list - and it was, yet you admit you "faulted" him for that, too. Seems to me, Len, that you "fault" people for saying things that are true! Your chief interest seems to be in trying to destroy the credibility of a not-licensed in the amateur radio service person (although one who has been licensed as a Commercial radio operator since 1956). Len, you destroy your own credibilty very well.... Have you really done that? Are you really going to nit-pick about an old posting by another and reference a 1968 Time magazine article? Actually, Len, *you're* the one nit-picking about it. It's really quite typical behavior for you, Len. First, you make some claim or other, or deny someone else's. Then someone provides conclusive evidence disproving your claim, or backing up the other person's. Your response is to attack the messenger for telling the facts as they are. Fits your profile perfectly. Yes, I'm sure you really, really WANT to do that! :-) By the bye, how are you coming with my Background Check? You know, the one where you MUST know my "personal, non-professional life"? No neighbor has reported any "investigator" flashing their shield and wanting to speak about me. The FBI has done that before. Twice. I passed muster enough for a security clearance, Paul. Twice. Are the newsgroup standards now HIGHER than a national security clearance? Must be...! What the heck are you talking about, Len? Have you written the IEEE yet to complain about my conduct in here? No? Why not? You are free to do so. Do you think it will matter to the IEEE? If so, please explain in 30,000 words or more WHY. (that's a 'short novel' length) Be sure and tell the pro-coders about your findings. The Inquisition can't get along without you... Do you think your behavior here meets the IEEE Code of Ethics, Len? Do you think you set a good example of what a "PROFESSIONAL" should do? Maybe it's time to look at some of your classic "faults" aimed at a United States Coast Guard radio operator who mentioned some of his experiences here. The Coast Guard is a branch of the military, Len. |
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