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wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: To further that, he feigns some kind of outrage and demands that the challenger "prove" it by going back to archives and extracting the challenger's charge. Brian Burke, N0IMD, claimed that a now-dead person wrote something. If the now-dead person wrote what Brian claimed, what's the problem with asking to see the original? There's nothing wrong with a now-living person asking that question. There's also nothing wrong with a now-living person from answering as Heil has - "do your own homework." who wants to demean ... with HIS "definition" of "pay," that of "being subsidized by the taxpayer." Why do you think the word "subsidized" is demeaning, Len? I quoted a definition for "subsidy" from the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary: "a grant to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public" A serviceman or woman is not a private person. Nor are they a private company. Do you even know what they are? What is demeaning about that? What isn't demeaning about it? "subsidize" is defined in the same book as "to furnish with a subsidy" So? Now of course it's clear that someone who is directly employed by the government is not "a private person or company", so the word doesn't really apply to anyone who gets a direct government paycheck. You don't say. |
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wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: To further that, he feigns some kind of outrage and demands that the challenger "prove" it by going back to archives and extracting the challenger's charge. Brian Burke, N0IMD, claimed that a now-dead person wrote something. If the now-dead person wrote what Brian claimed, what's the problem with asking to see the original? There's nothing wrong with a now-living person asking that question. A now-dead person isn't going to ask it. There's also nothing wrong with a now-living person from answering as Heil has - "do your own homework." Sure there is. You claimed that a now-dead person wrote something here on rrap. Your memory isn't perfect - in fact, you've recently been shown to be mistaken on some things. You've been asked to back up your claim - to show where the now-dead person actually wrote what you claimed. But you either can't do that, or won't do it. Either way, your claim must be assumed to be false until you provide some proof. Google contains all the archives. I have seen a nonsense tactic used by both you, Brian P. Burke, N0IMD, and Leonard H. Anderson. It goes like this: You claim someone said or did something, but provide no proof. Usually the false claim is in the form of a misquote or a misinterpretation of history. When the claim is challenged, and the correct quote or history provided, you either ignore the truth on and/or simply insult the person. Often the misquote or mistake is repeated later, and the cycle begins again. Len does this more than you, but you've picked up on his example. Misquoting the dead - that's pretty lame. |
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From: on Wed, Sep 27 2006 5:53 pm
wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: To further that, he feigns some kind of outrage and demands that the challenger "prove" it by going back to archives and extracting the challenger's charge. Brian Burke, N0IMD, claimed that a now-dead person wrote something. If the now-dead person wrote what Brian claimed, what's the problem with asking to see the original? There's nothing wrong with a now-living person asking that question. There's also nothing wrong with a now-living person from answering as Heil has - "do your own homework." Sigh...that CONSTANT "prove-it-by-dredging-up-an-old-post" bull**** again. :-( Feigned outrage (of the pansy sort) and "prove it" nonsense. AS IF nobody saw old postings in here before... I quoted a definition for "subsidy" from the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary: "a grant to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public" A serviceman or woman is not a private person. Nor are they a private company. Jimmie Noserve doesn't know that. Obviously. He's never taken that Oath. Do you even know what they are? Jimmie Noserve never served. Not in the military, not in any of his governments. He thinks of "the military" as G.I. Joe dolls ("action figures") or as images of old war movies? What is demeaning about that? What isn't demeaning about it? Indeed! Jimmie Noserve must be connected with aviation somehow...he is on some higher plane. He is "better" than the rest of us. "subsidize" is defined in the same book as "to furnish with a subsidy" So? Good grief...this NO-serve individual just cannot stop trying to rationalize he is "right" and therefore cannot be faulted! Just the same, he never took that Oath to serve his country, putting his life on that line, possibly harming his precious body dedicated to morse code. Now of course it's clear that someone who is directly employed by the government is not "a private person or company", so the word doesn't really apply to anyone who gets a direct government paycheck. You don't say. I couldn't figure out what he said...or meant to say... Oh, wait, here must be the meaning of his words: It is okay to be a civilian government employee (such as that glorious DX king from State, retired)...but NOT okay to wear the uniform of a military branch of the USA, doing military things and putting their LIVES on the line! Military people are "subsidized" but those in the "foreign service" are NOT! Yes, that's about it. Heil is his "friend" and ostensible "protector." Heil was a government employee at State. Heil is a pro-coder amateur extra. It all fits now. Anyone who is a pro-coder and served in the military is NOT "subsidized" but all no-coders aren't worthy of any respect from pro-coders, are always "subsidized," never do things on their own, got ALL education from the government, and probably have underarm odor. But, it is "okay" whatever Jimmie Noserve says. If you don't like it he will keep on keep on keep on rationalizing whatever he said is "correct" until everyone gives in just to keep him quiet. :-( |
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From: on Wed, Sep 27 2006 5:53 pm wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: To further that, he feigns some kind of outrage and demands that the challenger "prove" it by going back to archives and extracting the challenger's charge. Brian Burke, N0IMD, claimed that a now-dead person wrote something. If the now-dead person wrote what Brian claimed, what's the problem with asking to see the original? There's nothing wrong with a now-living person asking that question. There's also nothing wrong with a now-living person from answering as Heil has - "do your own homework." Sigh...that CONSTANT "prove-it-by-dredging-up-an-old-post" bull**** again. :-( I'm convinced, Len. Why did you dredge up the old post by "Jeffie-poo"? Feigned outrage (of the pansy sort) and "prove it" nonsense. AS IF nobody saw old postings in here before... If we'd all seen it, why did you find it necessary to bring it up again? Are you now feigning outrage of the previously described sort? I quoted a definition for "subsidy" from the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary: "a grant to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public" A serviceman or woman is not a private person. Nor are they a private company. Jimmie Noserve doesn't know that. Obviously. Who is "Jimmie Noserve"? Is this just your way of showing us that you are incapable of doing other than living up to the profile which outlines your behavior? He's never taken that Oath. So? You mentioned that the other day. What of it? Do you even know what they are? Jimmie Noserve never served. Not in the military, not in any of his governments. So? You mentioned that the other day. What of it? He thinks of "the military" as G.I. Joe dolls ("action figures") or as images of old war movies? You can't help but to insult and denigrate. If any should react to you in the same manner, you go to great lengths to discuss character assassination and worse. What is demeaning about that? What isn't demeaning about it? Indeed! Jimmie Noserve must be connected with aviation somehow...he is on some higher plane. He is "better" than the rest of us. You've long had a thing about being seen as inferior, less qualfied, less experienced or not an expert in any field. Your military service or mine conveys no super citizen status. "subsidize" is defined in the same book as "to furnish with a subsidy" So? Good grief...this NO-serve individual just cannot stop trying to rationalize he is "right" and therefore cannot be faulted! Just the same, he never took that Oath to serve his country, putting his life on that line, possibly harming his precious body dedicated to morse code. Are you ever going to tell us where and when it was that you went throught that artillery barrage? Can your friend Gene confirm it? Did his sphincter tighten too? Now of course it's clear that someone who is directly employed by the government is not "a private person or company", so the word doesn't really apply to anyone who gets a direct government paycheck. You don't say. I couldn't figure out what he said...or meant to say... Oh, wait, here must be the meaning of his words: It is okay to be a civilian government employee (such as that glorious DX king from State, retired)... You just can't help yourself. but NOT okay to wear the uniform of a military branch of the USA, doing military things and putting their LIVES on the line! I'm a military veteran, Len. Jim has never said anything insulting to me about my military service. You are a veteran. You have insulted my military service on more than one occasion. Military people are "subsidized" but those in the "foreign service" are NOT! According to your own words, my DXing while I was on government assignment abroad was paid for by taxpayers. Yes, that's about it. Heil is his "friend" and ostensible "protector." Is Brian your protector? Is Mark Morgan? Are they your friends? Your supporters? Heil was a government employee at State. Heil is a pro-coder amateur extra. It all fits now. Good luck on the new conspiracy theory. Don't leave the house without your aluminum foil cap. Anyone who is a pro-coder and served in the military is NOT "subsidized" but all no-coders aren't worthy of any respect from pro-coders, are always "subsidized," never do things on their own, got ALL education from the government, and probably have underarm odor. You really need to find something with which to fill your empty hours. But, it is "okay" whatever Jimmie Noserve says. If you don't like it he will keep on keep on keep on rationalizing whatever he said is "correct" until everyone gives in just to keep him quiet. :-( Whereas there is not much likely to keep you quiet. You are bound to demonstrate the accuracy of the well known profile. |
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On 30 Sep 2006 20:23:05 -0700, " wrote: From: on Wed, Sep 27 2006 5:53 pm wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: Sigh...that CONSTANT "prove-it-by-dredging-up-an-old-post" bull**** again. :-( Feigned outrage (of the pansy sort) and "prove it" nonsense. AS IF nobody saw old postings in here before... it is always the Nocoders that must do the work somehow the procoder I guess cazan't losing the abilty as they learn code perhaps? Nah...that's just an old, old trick of J. Miccolis. He diverts attention away from a challenge by another (and usually on a different subject) to get the group focussing on some old, old newsgripe argument. He does that deliberately. Do you even know what they are? Jimmie Noserve never served. Not in the military, not in any of his governments. He thinks of "the military" as G.I. Joe dolls ("action figures") or as images of old war movies? as expendable materail in any event No doubt. What is demeaning about that? What isn't demeaning about it? Indeed! Jimmie Noserve must be connected with aviation somehow...he is on some higher plane. He is "better" than the rest of us. Len you forgot his Code skills put him on a higher plane ...and without his parachute! :-) Good grief...this NO-serve individual just cannot stop trying to rationalize he is "right" and therefore cannot be faulted! Just the same, he never took that Oath to serve his country, putting his life on that line, possibly harming his precious body dedicated to morse code. yea I can personal attest serving is dangerous even in peacetime "We were expendable." :-) Now of course it's clear that someone who is directly employed by the government is not "a private person or company", so the word doesn't really apply to anyone who gets a direct government paycheck. You don't say. I couldn't figure out what he said...or meant to say... Oh, wait, here must be the meaning of his words: It is okay to be a civilian government employee (such as that glorious DX king from State, retired)...but NOT okay to wear the uniform of a military branch of the USA, doing military things and putting their LIVES on the line! Military people are "subsidized" but those in the "foreign service" are NOT! Jim is simply on the slide to ending up like Robeson sad to say it since he was managging better than than most of the ProCoders but it looks we ought to ban CW to protect hams from the obviously damaging effect of CW usage Maybe "it's the water?" [like the Olympia Brewing Co. slogan] Yes, that's about it. Heil is his "friend" and ostensible "protector." Heil was a government employee at State. Heil is a pro-coder amateur extra. It all fits now. Anyone who is a pro-coder and served in the military is NOT "subsidized" but all no-coders aren't worthy of any respect from pro-coders, are always "subsidized," never do things on their own, got ALL education from the government, and probably have underarm odor. and these people expect to be trusted to moderate a Ng involving the code issue? People like them. They all passed the code test. No sweat. Remember, Mark, they brooke NO contentiousness! But, it is "okay" whatever Jimmie Noserve says. If you don't like it he will keep on keep on keep on rationalizing whatever he said is "correct" until everyone gives in just to keep him quiet. :-( pity for all of us he does not read the ng more hed learn at least One us will not do that I have to just ignore him. If I don't, I'm liable to be accused of "(mis)conduct" and other high crimes against the State. :-) |
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wrote: On 30 Sep 2006 22:59:21 -0700, " wrote: wrote: On 30 Sep 2006 20:23:05 -0700, " wrote: From: on Wed, Sep 27 2006 5:53 pm wrote: wrote: From: on Tues, Sep 26 2006 7:22 pm wrote: wrote: Sigh...that CONSTANT "prove-it-by-dredging-up-an-old-post" bull**** again. :-( Feigned outrage (of the pansy sort) and "prove it" nonsense. AS IF nobody saw old postings in here before... it is always the Nocoders that must do the work somehow the procoder I guess cazan't losing the abilty as they learn code perhaps? Nah...that's just an old, old trick of J. Miccolis. He diverts attention away from a challenge by another (and usually on a different subject) to get the group focussing on some old, old newsgripe argument. He does that deliberately. he taught it to Steve and the rest fo Procoders The robeswine picked it up thinking it was SOP. Jimmie the M. probably picked it up on the old (defunct) AOL discussion board and saw it was useful for him as a misdirection. It's an old, old trick and - surprisingly - works well with the uninitiated. Do you even know what they are? Jimmie Noserve never served. Not in the military, not in any of his governments. He thinks of "the military" as G.I. Joe dolls ("action figures") or as images of old war movies? as expendable materail in any event No doubt. I do say that on rainy day like today is here it realy makes me regret I put my life and health on the line for the nation Welp, 2000 miles away from you the weather was nice down here. Picked up new glasses from Sears Optical and passed the Armed Forces Career Center just outside the Sears entrance. Briefly had some nice words with the same Army E-5 on duty that I did on Tuesday. :-) What is demeaning about that? What isn't demeaning about it? Indeed! Jimmie Noserve must be connected with aviation somehow...he is on some higher plane. He is "better" than the rest of us. Len you forgot his Code skills put him on a higher plane ...and without his parachute! :-) they don't need hard enough heads you could most procoder from orbit and they would survie byt beep in in their Code does get though your know and the air would part and not let them burn up Well then, let's get Heil to work with NASA. He wrote he "worked with NASA" while in Vietnam. Maybe this time he can help them with new nosecones or shuttle tiles? :-) Good grief...this NO-serve individual just cannot stop trying to rationalize he is "right" and therefore cannot be faulted! Just the same, he never took that Oath to serve his country, putting his life on that line, possibly harming his precious body dedicated to morse code. yea I can personal attest serving is dangerous even in peacetime "We were expendable." :-) Now of course it's clear that someone who is directly employed by the government is not "a private person or company", so the word doesn't really apply to anyone who gets a direct government paycheck. You don't say. I couldn't figure out what he said...or meant to say... Oh, wait, here must be the meaning of his words: It is okay to be a civilian government employee (such as that glorious DX king from State, retired)...but NOT okay to wear the uniform of a military branch of the USA, doing military things and putting their LIVES on the line! Military people are "subsidized" but those in the "foreign service" are NOT! Jim is simply on the slide to ending up like Robeson sad to say it since he was managging better than than most of the ProCoders but it looks we ought to ban CW to protect hams from the obviously damaging effect of CW usage Maybe "it's the water?" [like the Olympia Brewing Co. slogan] maybe Yes, that's about it. Heil is his "friend" and ostensible "protector." Heil was a government employee at State. Heil is a pro-coder amateur extra. It all fits now. Anyone who is a pro-coder and served in the military is NOT "subsidized" but all no-coders aren't worthy of any respect from pro-coders, are always "subsidized," never do things on their own, got ALL education from the government, and probably have underarm odor. and these people expect to be trusted to moderate a Ng involving the code issue? People like them. They all passed the code test. No sweat. yea Remember, Mark, they brooke NO contentiousness! except from themselves hypocrites but again the NG is dead even if they get it lanched with attides RRAP is dead for any real discussion. Pro-coders won't allow it. That's IT in a nutshell. Pro-coders want to stop all discussion. It is obvious to any disinterested observer. Problem is the "moderating team" (well, one anyway) wants to be in the public engaging in a ****ing contest. Ah, but with just ONE, me. :-) The hypocrisy will be proven later, after the "moderation" starts. But, it is "okay" whatever Jimmie Noserve says. If you don't like it he will keep on keep on keep on rationalizing whatever he said is "correct" until everyone gives in just to keep him quiet. :-( pity for all of us he does not read the ng more hed learn at least One us will not do that I have to just ignore him. If I don't, I'm liable to be accused of "(mis)conduct" and other high crimes against the State. :-) well Clinton survived impeachment and even profitted from it As far as I saw, Bill Clinton NEVER had to face the elite "moderating team" of RRAP! :-) |
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Yet again the gaseous bageous Exalted One takes it upon himself to hold
Court where none is necessary. Len, you are quickly becoming a simple, smarmy to-be-ignored buffoon much like your lone Peanut Gallery follower aka Mark Morgan. And Len? Yes, I am one of those dreaded "Coders" you love to malign, though I pose no stance on code or no code. Tsk...What say you, Exalted One? |
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The robeswine picked it up thinking it was SOP. Who? Jimmie the M. probably picked it up on the old (defunct) AOL discussion board... Who? Well then, let's get Heil to work with NASA. He wrote he "worked with NASA" while in Vietnam. I wrote no such thing at any time. Your memory is playing tricks on you, Leonard. Maybe this time he can help them with new nosecones or shuttle tiles? :-) Did you ever hear of a shuttle transatlantic landing site (TAL), Len? Did you know that one of them is Banjul in The Gambia? Were you aware that Dakar, Senegal was also used in the past? It happens that Guinea-Bissau, that cashew exporting country, is just a little down the coast from The Gambia. I worked in Bissau for the U.S. government in communications. Let's see if you are capable of putting two and two together and coming up with a correct answer. Working with NASA isn't the same as working for NASA. Your factual errors are mounting. RRAP is dead for any real discussion. Pro-coders won't allow it. That's IT in a nutshell. Perhaps you aren't capable of adding two and two and coming up with a correct answer after all. Pro-coders want to stop all discussion. Well, Leonard "I-am-only-here-for-civil-debate" Anderson, you've come up with a mistaken notion. What is needed is a removal of filth posters, endless Myna bird droppings of "get help", "gte help", "kooks on parade", "koks on parade" and a change in your behavior. It is obvious to any disinterested observer. The likelihood of any disinterested observer reading this newsgroup is very, very small. Problem is the "moderating team" (well, one anyway) wants to be in the public engaging in a ****ing contest. Ah, but with just ONE, me. :-) Your behavior has been pointed out. Your refusal to acknowledge your part in turning this newsgroup into less than it could be has been noted. The hypocrisy will be proven later, after the "moderation" starts. You could easily be a part of a moderated newsgroup. All that would take is some self-control on your part. As far as I saw, Bill Clinton NEVER had to face the elite "moderating team" of RRAP! :-) Were you elected to something, Len? |
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