A question well stated, Slow Code...
No, it is a telephone conversation. Period. And that is what the whole hobby
will turn into if the self-righteous, lazy whiners get their way and code
is, once and for all, abolished. They all have contributed to the hobby's
deterioration so far and don't like the fact that a few of us have got their
number and can assess them for what they are. What do these simple-minded
idiots think will happen if, as they press forward, they get all testing
removed? The simple fact is that this is all a set up so the frequencies can
be auctioned to non ham interests. The morons in Newington whimper about the
reduced ham population. Geez Louise...there are many times more hams today
(including those with the "faux" ham licenses not requiring code) than in
the post WWII ham "boom." Not enough?

No kids...this whole code thing and the watering down of the test is simply
a matter dividing and conquering so "they" can come in and tell us that our
numbers don't justify the spectrum. Then...pfssssst!!!...there goes one band
after another.

If any of the no coders had any balls they'd be asking the fcc for real
testing and redevelop the hobby into what it used to be instead of the inane
weekend contesting and buffoons sitting there are sideband comparing which
rigs have the most features.

Idiots.




What's wrong with that,
eslewhere you denied being arogant mr 2 faced
if it helps motivate people to be better hams.
Unfortunately, most here don't want better hams.
I certainly do which is why I call for you Steve and woger to turn in
your licenses

please help out ham radio and turn yours in SC


If two no-code hams contact each other on CB, is that a real QSO?

SC

Smokey wrote:
If any of the no coders had any balls they'd be asking the fcc for real
testing and redevelop the hobby into what it used to ...

Oh yeah, I really miss the days when the grouchy old
AM hams ceaselessly complained loud and long about those
"Single Side-Winders" on their personal AM frequencies
with that new fangled Mickey Mouse mode from hell (SSB).
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

No kids...this whole code thing and the watering down of the test is simply
a matter dividing and conquering so "they" can come in and tell us that our
numbers don't justify the spectrum. Then...pfssssst!!!...there goes one band
after another.

If any of the no coders had any balls they'd be asking the fcc for real
testing and redevelop the hobby into what it used to be instead of the inane
weekend contesting and buffoons sitting there are sideband comparing which
rigs have the most features.


Nah, the spectrum has moved up to SHF, no one in govt or industry gives
a rat's ass about the spectrum below 30 MHz.

[Thanks for the cross posting. I need the publicity]

--
god bless

http://www.Hello-Radio.Com

http://home.xandros.com/products/home/home_edition.html

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance

73, Phil W7OX

Phil Wheeler wrote:
AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance

73, Phil W7OX
both are enteirly accurate

Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Slow Code wrote:
Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

My dog is an expert communicator. Forget the code requirement.
Do you have a EE degree? If not, you don't have the sense of
a blind billy goat.
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"Slow Code" wrote in message
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Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.


I would have said ignorance

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Any idiot can learn code. Not everyone can understand theory enough to make
it usable in day to day practice. I submit that SC is the "any idiot".

U-Know-Who wrote:
"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...


Any idiot can learn code. Not everyone can understand theory enough to make
it usable in day to day practice. I submit that SC is the "any idiot".
and knowing is not even vital to using it these days

Slow Code wrote:
Phil Wheeler wrote in
:

AC7PN wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC
The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.

I would have said ignorance

73, Phil W7OX


Don't tell me You want to dumb down ham radio now as well. Where have all
the communicators gone?

SC

Since when was talking as in Phone SSB not
"communication". Sure code is fine, but most of
us learned to key "mama" long after we learned to
say it

73, Phil W7OX