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On 15 Oct 2006 16:24:35 -0700, wrote:
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From: on Sat, Oct 14 2006 4:01 pm
Slow Code wrote:

If an amateur had to relay a through a country and the amateurs didn't
know each other language they still could have passed it by CW and the
message could have been delivered to someone that could read it. Not no
more.

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

Adhere to the ICAO's phonetic alphabet, and there need be no
bi-lingualism nor a CW requirement.

Since 1955 for international civil aviation. It's taken
from the NATO approved phonetic alphabet which came out
earlier the same year. I remember it well since I had to
learn the "new" phonetic alphabet in a hurry while in the
Army then. :-)

It took me about 20 minutes during a mid-shift to learn it.

not it took that long or maybe a bit longer but nothing like the time
I have wasted on Morse

It took me about 7 weeks and lots of hours to get to about 10 words per
minute. I couldn't get past that, so I got the consolation prize...
Technician.

When things start failing communication wise worldwide, amateur radio
might be all there is to relay messages, and the ITU just removed one of
the legs of a three leg stool.

Dear Slow, air traffic controllers don't use Morris Code, and they
communicate with foreign speakers JUST FINE!

Ever since 1955 the worldwide common language for civil
aviation communications on airways has been English
spoken as well as (now) data. That includes pilots as
well as controllers, even in and over their native
country; a non-English speaking country MAY use their
native language but the civil airways can have many
nations' aircraft in it.

Blowcode is just another troll who has his head up his
ass in regards to radio communications. That head just
hasn't been aware of what happened in radio for a half
century.

With his head up his own ass, he wouldn't need to eat his own excrement
off of another man's genitals. Maybe Robesin can give us hit ake on
that.

well BB it must a tight fit so I suspect he wait to he puls out for
air

We should hear a loud "pop."

The ITU didn't "just remove" anything. The ITU-R made
the code test for an amateur license with below-30-MHz
privileges OPTIONAL to each administration. In 2003.
THREE years ago, not "just now." :-)

Slow is, well, slow.

realy slwo but according to one of post another of Sock puppets "hey
Stupid" so he is more honest the Robeson (which is truly damning with
faint praise.

He might be a former RRAPper. Can you guess which one?

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wrote:
On 15 Oct 2006 16:24:35 -0700, wrote:
wrote:
From: on Sat, Oct 14 2006 4:01 pm
Slow Code wrote:

Blowcode is just another troll who has his head up his
ass in regards to radio communications. That head just
hasn't been aware of what happened in radio for a half
century.

With his head up his own ass, he wouldn't need to eat his own excrement
off of another man's genitals. Maybe Robesin can give us hit ake on
that.

well BB it must a tight fit so I suspect he wait to he puls out for
air

We should hear a loud "pop."

The ITU didn't "just remove" anything. The ITU-R made
the code test for an amateur license with below-30-MHz
privileges OPTIONAL to each administration. In 2003.
THREE years ago, not "just now." :-)

Slow is, well, slow.

realy slwo but according to one of post another of Sock puppets "hey
Stupid" so he is more honest the Robeson (which is truly damning with
faint praise.

He might be a former RRAPper. Can you guess which one?

I'll go with Mark and say it is a current RRAPer...a pro-coder who
is wrapped too tight...either Jimmie Noserve or that Waffen SS guy.

Slow Code

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Slow Code wrote:
If an amateur had to relay a through a country and the amateurs didn't
know each other language they still could have passed it by CW and the
message could have been delivered to someone that could read it. Not no
more.

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

Adhere to the ICAO's phonetic alphabet, and there need be no
bi-lingualism nor a CW requirement.

When things start failing communication wise worldwide, amateur radio
might be all there is to relay messages, and the ITU just removed one
of the legs of a three leg stool.

Dear Slow, air traffic controllers don't use Morris Code, and they
communicate with foreign speakers JUST FINE!

Right. Pilots and ATC have to pass tests too. Do you think it would
be good if their tests were dumbed down?

SC

Dave Heil · October 19th 06, 05:50 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

A Morse Code exam.

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Dave K8MN

[email protected] · October 19th 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

A Morse Code exam.
wrong again I believe you can indeed pass a CW test by voice that is
speaking out the letter for somebody to write down

but the quesion was taken out of context dave the Code test is not a
message

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Dave K8MN

[email protected] · October 21st 06, 03:40 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

A Morse Code exam.

(exraneous newsgroups removed)

Dave K8MN

Sorry Dave, but you're wrong. The Morse Exam uses audio, not actual
on-the-air transmissions. I guess you're just not VE material.

[email protected] · October 21st 06, 03:51 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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On 20 Oct 2006 19:40:43 -0700, wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

A Morse Code exam.

(exraneous newsgroups removed)

Dave K8MN

Sorry Dave, but you're wrong. The Morse Exam uses audio, not actual
on-the-air transmissions. I guess you're just not VE material.

indeed if the test were based on air use it might even be possible to
ctruct a rational for keeping the test although it would be rough to
justify why it is was the only mode so tested but one might make a
stab at it

If you have to "send by hand and receive by ear" over the air without
the license you're testing for, you'd be llike W3RV bypassing all the
testing and regulatory material and just getting on the air without a
license. And we wouldn't want that, would we?

[email protected] · October 21st 06, 04:19 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
On 20 Oct 2006 19:51:24 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
On 20 Oct 2006 19:40:43 -0700, wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???

A Morse Code exam.

(exraneous newsgroups removed)

Dave K8MN

Sorry Dave, but you're wrong. The Morse Exam uses audio, not actual
on-the-air transmissions. I guess you're just not VE material.

indeed if the test were based on air use it might even be possible to
ctruct a rational for keeping the test although it would be rough to
justify why it is was the only mode so tested but one might make a
stab at it

If you have to "send by hand and receive by ear" over the air without
the license you're testing for, you'd be llike W3RV bypassing all the
testing and regulatory material and just getting on the air without a
license. And we wouldn't want that, would we?

You are right that doesn't work but it is closer to a valid arguement
for code testing than anything proposed by the ProCoder in my memerory.

Slow Code doesn't know code.

Although one could do the practice and exam on vhf but then they
would still have to deal with the codeless techs in their specrum

It would just be too awful for them to share spectrum with the unwashed
and the unworthy.

Dave Heil · October 21st 06, 04:32 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???
A Morse Code exam.

(extraneous newsgroups removed)

Dave K8MN

Sorry Dave, but you're wrong. The Morse Exam uses audio, not actual
on-the-air transmissions. I guess you're just not VE material.

Passed=obtaining a passing grade

Good luck@

[email protected] · October 22nd 06, 12:27 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

wrote:

What can be passed by CW that cannot be passed by voice???
A Morse Code exam.

(extraneous newsgroups removed)

Dave K8MN

Sorry Dave, but you're wrong. The Morse Exam uses audio, not actual
on-the-air transmissions. I guess you're just not VE material.

Passed=obtaining a passing grade

Good luck@

Now you claim the VE gives your score in a CW transmission?

Keep digging.

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