wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

Good luck in your quest to identify Bill Newport.

Dave K8MN

No luck involved.

Have you identified him? You may need some luck.

If you'd actually read his post, he identified
himself.

Did he? Are you hot-ham-and-cheese?

I merely pointed out that there is no amateur Bill Newport
listed in 4-land, but there were several Newports in the database for
Canton, Ohio; K4YZ's old stomping grounds. I'm sure that it's all a
coincidence.

Naw, Brian, I think you may be on to something. Newport is also a brand
of cigarettes and the name of a yacht club.

Dave K8MN

wrote:
wrote:
On 3 Dec 2006 09:09:42 -0800, wrote:

wrote:

There are plenty of folks who studied the code tapes and got to 20WPM,
to never use it on the air.
refresh my memory how far did you Make along that road 5, 13 or 20 wpm

The long road to 5WPM and exactly 1.5 QSOs on CW.

and yet nobody has anytrouble understanding me even on HF

Dave would severely injure himself if he heard you on HF.

been tlaking another f my fired who is planing to thought the Logs of
a CW sweepstakes some years ago looking for Dave I worked one of them
from "W8DUA" using machine morse did ok since they wanted to the
contacts was curiiuos as was the trustee of the club station to see
how well I could do

Keep looking, Junior. Until last month, I'd not participated in a CW
Sweepstakes contest since before you ever obtained an amateur license.
I worked no W8DUA this year. Keep "tlaking another f my fired" until
you begin firing on all cylinders.

the result was as I recal 40sates worked and a conversation form
uncomitied to no code of several club hams

Doesn't count. You didn't work hard enough. Secret handshake or
something.

That isn't it. His problem is that he used a mode "uncomitied to no
code of several club hams" or something like that. Lately he has been
busy being repated. I'd love to have heard Mark's CW operation during a
Sweepstakes 'test. I'll bet is sounded like someone falling down a
flight of stairs with a keyer and a Scrabble game.

Dave K8MN

wrote:
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:49:20 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

Yes, Mark, it is something to be "aspried" to.

not if you and Stevea are example of it

You wouldn't know one ON THE AIR if you heard it, Morkie.

And you persist in ignoring the fact that RRAP is NOT "Amateur
Radio"

It is recognition by two
separate individuals who are already members. It isn't something you
can apply or ask for. You should look up the things which are required
in order to be nominated.

I have read about it

No you haven't.

you are foolish to assume I have n't

No...He's used to your half-witted responses...As are we all.

What is truly pathetic is how you and the twit will stoop to anything to
take a swipe at anyone.

stoop to? we are simply pointing out a couple of them are very BAD
hams

How can you know?

You're not in a position to make that judgement since YOU do not
possess the license that would allow you to work us on the air and
hence make an INFORMED opinion.

yourself amoug them

More inept mangling of the English language.

Tell me, Brian, do you think Mark will be
nominated by two members of the A-1 Operators Club for either his
sparkling phone, digital mode or Morse operation?

I Know that has discussed nomiating me for My operators skill and such
but decided to ask me what I thought since he knows what I think of
the ARRL

Guess what, fatboy...?!?!

It doesn't matter if you're a member of the League or not.

Had you read the criteria for A-1 Op "membership", you'd know...

Just like I've said before...you ALWAYS provide the ammo necessary
to prove what a liar YOU are, Morkie...

Thanks.

Steve, K4YZ

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wrote:
wrote:
On 27 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0800, wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 26 Nov 2006 04:12:44 -0800, wrote:

I recall K4YZ/KTN4GN inviting people to monitor him and he would send
an SWL confirmation.
in other wors more self serveing fluff?

Zackley! To hell with FOUO. SWL him for his glory.

well it shows how we learn of this great letter and you notice he did
not post it here but sent in his sockpuppets to anounce it

What you just said made me curious, so I hit up WWW.QRZ.COM for
"Newport" and there are NONE in 4-land. There's one in Washington, two
in five-land, and a handful of 'em in Canton, Ohio. His first post was
on Oct 10th about "faggortry."

Wait a minute.... Didn't Robesin used to live in Canton, Ohio? Maybe
Bob Newport is one of his ex-in-laws or something.

well, he's down to the level of annoyance.

He always was.

After you get comfortable in your self-satisfaction over your decree
that there are no Newports in 4-land, consider that Kentucky is in
4-land. There is a rather sizable city across the river from
Cincinnati, called Newport, Kentucky. It is the county seat of Campbell
County. Is your bulb burning any brighter?

[superfluous newsgroups trimmed]

Dave K8MN
Dave, that is a place name, not a family name. There's a Newport in
Rhode Island as well, but no light bulb for the geographically challenged
Heil.
If I was geographically challenged, I'd hardly have known the
information I presented to you.

So you're telling me that "Bill" is geography?

Is that what you think I've told you?

"Bill Newport" does not appear to exist in 4-Land as the anon poster
would like us to think.
I'll bet there's no "Hot-ham-and-cheese" in your local phone book
either, Brian.

I'll bet that, too.

There you go.

The beauty of being an anon poster supporting
the atrocities of Robesin is that people tend to mistrust your claims.
"His claims", Brian; not "your claims". Your name doesn't appear in
your posts. You're an anonymous poster.

So why do you call be "Brian?"

My call be K8MN. What you call be?

Until "bill" can show us a correct listing on QRZ, I'll just have to
doubt he exists in real life.
Until "Hot-ham-and-cheese" can show me a correct listing in QRZ, I'll
believe him to be a fearful fraud.

It's a free country.

...but not terribly intelligent.

Thank you for your sincere concern.

Thanks for the cheap entertainment.

Indeed.

Notice that "Bill" used an underscore (_) between his first and last
name. Also notice that "Bill" then used a period (.) between his full
name and his general location, "4-Land."

How about that!

Thank you for another demonstration of you inability to properly read
and use syntax.

Notice that you use hyphens between the parts of your screen name. If
you buy such a sandwich at any restaurant, are there any hyphens in the
name?

Dave K8MN

Notice that your communication has become meaningless.

What I notice is that Dave backed you into a corder with your
own silly rhetoric and then you try and slither out from under his
gaze!

I am certain all commucation has become meaningless to him and he never
noticed

He's an A-1 OP.

is he realy? certainly that not something to be aspried to

one A1 op threatens to muder people over radio topics another states
plainly he is willing to help other hams break the rules if they are Dx
HE wants

Which A-1 op threatened murder and which A-1 op offered to help
others break laws?

Show quotes, including headers, Morkie.

and both intent on preserving their frat boy intiation rites

pastetic

"pastetic"

What's "pastetic" (I assume you were trying to say PATHETIC, bit
screwed up the King's English yet one more time...) is that you
continue to maintain the lie about your education and skills in English
when it's painfully apparent that both are lies.

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 27 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0800, wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Notice that your communication has become meaningless.
I am certain all commucation has become meaningless to him and he never
noticed
He's an A-1 OP.

is he realy? certainly that not something to be aspried to

Yes, Mark, it is something to be "aspried" to. It is recognition by two
separate individuals who are already members. It isn't something you
can apply or ask for. You should look up the things which are required
in order to be nominated. During the more than twenty five years I've
been a member, I've nominated quite a number of other ops for
membership. If you look at the League's web page, you can find a list
of operators who have received one nomination and are awaiting a second.
The idea for such a list was mine.

Whoop-de-dooo!

Welp, the ARRL issued him a certificate anyway.

The only way to receive an A-1 Operators Club certficate is to be
nominated by two who are already members. If two nominations are
received, a certificate is issued.

So the ARRL is a "Shall Issue" organization. No Veto capability?
You've got to wonder if that's in their best interest?

one A1 op threatens to muder people over radio topics another states
plainly he is willing to help other hams break the rules if they are Dx
HE wants

and both intent on preserving their frat boy intiation rites

pathetic

Very pathetic.

What is truly pathetic is how you and the twit will stoop to anything to
take a swipe at anyone.

Dave, stooping isn't required where you're concerned, and there's no
shortage of criticisms coming from your direction. Besides, why do you
want people to go through your frat-boy hazing?

Tell me, Brian, do you think Mark will be
nominated by two members of the A-1 Operators Club for either his
sparkling phone, digital mode or Morse operation?

Dave K8MN

Getting wallpaper isn't high on my list of priorities. Mark will have
to answer for himself.

BTW, who were the two hams that screwed up and sponsored you? How many
on the present list did you nominate and are trying to get over the
hump by having a their names published? Do you think that having their
names published will make it easier for them to get in? Hell, save the
ARRL a lot of trouble and have one of your Cronies get on one weekend
and work a "list" that you provide.

Finally, have you layed out a plan to oust the incumbent ARRL Roanoke
Division Director? Here's a hint, you might want to get active in your
section first. Let them see who you are, find out what you're like.
Best of Luck.

Dave Heil wrote in
nk.net:

Mark is a twit
whether here or on the air.

Dave K8MN


ROFL

SC

wrote:
On 7 Dec 2006 15:07:33 -0800, wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 27 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0800, wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

Notice that your communication has become meaningless.
I am certain all commucation has become meaningless to him and he never
noticed
He's an A-1 OP.

is he realy? certainly that not something to be aspried to

Yes, Mark, it is something to be "aspried" to. It is recognition by two
separate individuals who are already members. It isn't something you
can apply or ask for. You should look up the things which are required
in order to be nominated. During the more than twenty five years I've
been a member, I've nominated quite a number of other ops for
membership. If you look at the League's web page, you can find a list
of operators who have received one nomination and are awaiting a second.
The idea for such a list was mine.

Whoop-de-dooo!

the sound you are now hear is a tiny violin playing something

Welp, I guess I was supposed to be impressed or something.

Welp, the ARRL issued him a certificate anyway.

The only way to receive an A-1 Operators Club certficate is to be
nominated by two who are already members. If two nominations are
received, a certificate is issued.

So the ARRL is a "Shall Issue" organization. No Veto capability?
You've got to wonder if that's in their best interest?

one A1 op threatens to muder people over radio topics another states
plainly he is willing to help other hams break the rules if they are Dx
HE wants

and both intent on preserving their frat boy intiation rites

pathetic

Very pathetic.

What is truly pathetic is how you and the twit will stoop to anything to
take a swipe at anyone.

Dave, stooping isn't required where you're concerned, and there's no
shortage of criticisms coming from your direction. Besides, why do you
want people to go through your frat-boy hazing?

becuase frat boys games are what he is interested in

I'm not sure that Dave ever graduated from college, so code-hazing may
be as close as he got to the experience. He didn't even go through the
service school for radio ops, probably "bypassed" college the same way
- too smart for it. And you wonder about the attitude?

Tell me, Brian, do you think Mark will be
nominated by two members of the A-1 Operators Club for either his
sparkling phone, digital mode or Morse operation?

Dave K8MN

Getting wallpaper isn't high on my list of priorities. Mark will have
to answer for himself.

like I said it may well most likely for digital stuff or the facts
most hams that know do find my techical skill worth having around

only on USENET where the stubleer from speech are jamed for my use by
the mediuam and my dyslexia (and the need to defend myself froma Pair
of A-! ops) does the fact I can certainly be unp;leasent when the
occaion calls for it tend to come out

Hmmmm? Having to defend yourself from a pair of A1A Ops just doesn't
sound right. Either on the air or otherwise.

BTW, who were the two hams that screwed up and sponsored you? How many
on the present list did you nominate and are trying to get over the
hump by having a their names published? Do you think that having their
names published will make it easier for them to get in? Hell, save the
ARRL a lot of trouble and have one of your Cronies get on one weekend
and work a "list" that you provide.

Finally, have you layed out a plan to oust the incumbent ARRL Roanoke
Division Director? Here's a hint, you might want to get active in your
section first. Let them see who you are, find out what you're like.
Best of Luck.

No BB if Heil wants to to oust the derector I don't think he wanst to
becoeme active in his section if they learn what we already know I
don't think he has a prayer

Good point.

he is better off making them he might Bob Hiel a nice guy ( i met him
a few times when he spoke as SVRC funtion back in springfeild
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

Maybe a DXpedition will get him back in the picture, but he'll have to
pay for this one himself.

wrote:
On 6 Dec 2006 01:37:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:

wrote:

cyber vandal at work

Nope.

Just correctly addressing the dork.

steve all yu are doing is enaging in cyber vandalism you don't discuss
you do't try to make a papoint anymore

Waddayamean I "do't try to make a papoint anymore"...?!?!

I've MADE a point, Morkie.

First of all is that there is nothing really worth doing here since
you have chosen to slop the hogs all over RRAP. I've been engaging in
REAL debate and "policy discussion" in the pages of real media sources.


Nothing's ever "gotten done" here anyway except to bring up a topic
only to see it made yet another "no code" debate, regardless of the
original theme. We have you and Lennie the Lame to blame for that.

Secondly is that I consider you an unwashed, undisciplined, lying,
deceitful, pathetic boor of a person, worthy of nothing more than my
laughter...And you generate PLENTY of that ! ! ! ! ! !

and if you insit on fraudletly altering the atributioan this is all
you get

Once you quit being a dork and a putz, I'll quit calling you a dork
and a putz.

So far, it seems like that's not about to happen.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 27 Nov 2006 18:43:26 -0800, wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Notice that your communication has become meaningless.
I am certain all commucation has become meaningless to him and he never
noticed
He's an A-1 OP.

is he realy? certainly that not something to be aspried to

[Mark stoops to taking a swipe]

Yes, Mark, it is something to be "aspried" to. It is recognition by two
separate individuals who are already members. It isn't something you
can apply or ask for. You should look up the things which are required
in order to be nominated. During the more than twenty five years I've
been a member, I've nominated quite a number of other ops for
membership. If you look at the League's web page, you can find a list
of operators who have received one nomination and are awaiting a second.
The idea for such a list was mine.

Whoop-de-dooo!

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

Your response was predictable, Brian.

Welp, the ARRL issued him a certificate anyway.

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

The only way to receive an A-1 Operators Club certficate is to be
nominated by two who are already members. If two nominations are
received, a certificate is issued.

So the ARRL is a "Shall Issue" organization. No Veto capability?

That's right, Brian. The ARRL issues the certificate and maintains
records. No one has any veto capability.

You've got to wonder if that's in their best interest?

No, I don't have to wonder. I'll leave the wondering up to you.
Two members nominate. The ARRL issues.

one A1 op threatens to muder people over radio topics another states
plainly he is willing to help other hams break the rules if they are Dx
HE wants

and both intent on preserving their frat boy intiation rites

pathetic

[Mark stoops to take a swipe]

Very pathetic.

[Brian stoops to add a seconding swipe]

What is truly pathetic is how you and the twit will stoop to anything to
take a swipe at anyone.

Dave, stooping isn't required where you're concerned, and there's no
shortage of criticisms coming from your direction.

Yes, Brian, you stupes do stoop. You've had a chip on your shoulder for
ages.

Besides, why do you
want people to go through your frat-boy hazing?

I'm not in a fraternity and I don't engage in any hazing. Let's
summarize: No fraternity. No hazing. Not mine.

Tell me, Brian, do you think Mark will be
nominated by two members of the A-1 Operators Club for either his
sparkling phone, digital mode or Morse operation?

Getting wallpaper isn't high on my list of priorities.

You could sit around for decades without ever achieving A-1 Op status.
It doesn't matter whether it is on your list of priorities or not.
You can't apply for it. You can't obtain it by working a certain number
of states or countries. The only way to achieve it is to have two
members nominate you. They apply the criteria set out for membership.

Mark will have
to answer for himself.

That might prove interesting in and of itself.

BTW, who were the two hams that screwed up and sponsored you?

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

I don't know who nominated me, Brian. There are two lists published on
the League's web site. One is of A-1 Op members. The other is of those
who have one nomination.

A single nomination could be a screw up, but different nominations?

How many
on the present list did you nominate and are trying to get over the
hump by having a their names published?

I don't know, Brian--a number of them. Any who I nominated were worked
by me on the air one or more times. If I submitted their names and
callsigns to the ARRL as A-1 Operators Club nominees, I thought their
operating met the criteria for membership.

Do you think that having their
names published will make it easier for them to get in?

Having their calls, not names, published might just do that. It might
just jog the memories of members perusing the list.

Hell, save the
ARRL a lot of trouble and have one of your Cronies get on one weekend
and work a "list" that you provide.

That wouldn't be something in accordance with the established criteria
for membership, Brian.

Finally, have you layed out a plan to oust the incumbent ARRL Roanoke
Division Director?

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

"Laid", Brian. No, I've told you that I have no immediate plans to run
for League office.

Here's a hint, you might want to get active in your
section first.

Here's a hint: You aren't in my Section and you have no idea of how
active I am in it.

Let them see who you are, find out what you're like.

Quite many of them already know me.

Best of Luck.

In what?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

He's an A-1 OP.

is he realy? certainly that not something to be aspried to

[Mark stoops to taking a swipe]

Mark has no understanding of whatr this is, Dave, except that he's
not one and he can't buy or bluster his way into it.

Yes, Mark, it is something to be "aspried" to. It is recognition by two
separate individuals who are already members. It isn't something you
can apply or ask for. You should look up the things which are required
in order to be nominated. During the more than twenty five years I've
been a member, I've nominated quite a number of other ops for
membership. If you look at the League's web page, you can find a list
of operators who have received one nomination and are awaiting a second.
The idea for such a list was mine.

Whoop-de-dooo!

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

All those DX callsigns and Brain never got nominated...Guess that
had to hurt.

Your response was predictable, Brian.

Uh-yup.

Welp, the ARRL issued him a certificate anyway.

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

Perhaps if he used paper rather than a bare hand he might be more
effective?

The only way to receive an A-1 Operators Club certficate is to be
nominated by two who are already members. If two nominations are
received, a certificate is issued.

So the ARRL is a "Shall Issue" organization. No Veto capability?

That's right, Brian. The ARRL issues the certificate and maintains
records. No one has any veto capability.

You've got to wonder if that's in their best interest?

No, I don't have to wonder. I'll leave the wondering up to you.
Two members nominate. The ARRL issues.

Brain doesn't understand the workings of the ARRL.

But then he's also showed us he doesn't understand the workings of
much at all.

one A1 op threatens to muder people over radio topics another states
plainly he is willing to help other hams break the rules if they are Dx
HE wants

and both intent on preserving their frat boy intiation rites

pathetic

[Mark stoops to take a swipe]

Very pathetic.

[Brian stoops to add a seconding swipe]

The pathetic part is watching the blind leading the ignorant here,
Dave...

What is truly pathetic is how you and the twit will stoop to anything to
take a swipe at anyone.

Dave, stooping isn't required where you're concerned, and there's no
shortage of criticisms coming from your direction.

Yes, Brian, you stupes do stoop. You've had a chip on your shoulder for
ages.

His specialty is trying to throw solids objects from the glass
house from which he resides.

Besides, why do you
want people to go through your frat-boy hazing?

I'm not in a fraternity and I don't engage in any hazing. Let's
summarize: No fraternity. No hazing. Not mine.

Tell me, Brian, do you think Mark will be
nominated by two members of the A-1 Operators Club for either his
sparkling phone, digital mode or Morse operation?

Getting wallpaper isn't high on my list of priorities.

Of course not.

That "paperwork", including valid authorizations to operate,
documentation of contacts, etc etc, might actually substantiate your
claims.

As it is now, you simply blow us off with your "it's in the garage"
excuse.

The truth is that it doesn't exist....Oh, I have no doubt you were
in Guam, Korea, Somalia, etc...But I also have no doubt that your
claims of "...worked the equivilent of DXCC several times over..." is
one of your biggest shams.

You could sit around for decades without ever achieving A-1 Op status.
It doesn't matter whether it is on your list of priorities or not.
You can't apply for it. You can't obtain it by working a certain number
of states or countries. The only way to achieve it is to have two
members nominate you. They apply the criteria set out for membership.

Proven skills and qualities.

Mark will have to answer for himself.

That might prove interesting in and of itself.

(snickersnicker...gigglegiggle....)

BTW, who were the two hams that screwed up and sponsored you?

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

I don't know who nominated me, Brian. There are two lists published on
the League's web site. One is of A-1 Op members. The other is of those
who have one nomination.

A single nomination could be a screw up, but different nominations?

He'll be dwelling on that for hours, Dave...

How many
on the present list did you nominate and are trying to get over the
hump by having a their names published?

I don't know, Brian--a number of them. Any who I nominated were worked
by me on the air one or more times. If I submitted their names and
callsigns to the ARRL as A-1 Operators Club nominees, I thought their
operating met the criteria for membership.

One thing's certain...N0IMD ain't on the list.

No...I'm not either, but then I'm not making an issue of it,
either! =)

I HAVE my DXCC! (37136)

Do you think that having their
names published will make it easier for them to get in?

Having their calls, not names, published might just do that. It might
just jog the memories of members perusing the list.

I will watch for Brain's justification on how unethical this is.

Hell, save the
ARRL a lot of trouble and have one of your Cronies get on one weekend
and work a "list" that you provide.

That wouldn't be something in accordance with the established criteria
for membership, Brian.

Finally, have you layed out a plan to oust the incumbent ARRL Roanoke
Division Director?

[Brian stoops to take a swipe]

"Laid", Brian. No, I've told you that I have no immediate plans to run
for League office.

Oh no! A typo from BRAIN...?!?!

Guess he "layed" his dictionary next to his Laz-y-Boy last night.

Here's a hint, you might want to get active in your
section first.

Here's a hint: You aren't in my Section and you have no idea of how
active I am in it.

But then again I'm not in the Ohio Section and I bet you I can tell
you how active Brain is in it!

Let them see who you are, find out what you're like.

Quite many of them already know me.

Best of Luck.

In what?

That's Brain's little way of trying to express his ego, suggesting
that no one can trump his comments.

Funny how a little common sense do exactly that.

73

Steve, K4YZ