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Dave Heil January 1st 07 12:41 PM

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wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


It seems that your "proof" isn't proof at all of what you claim. Aren't
your skills in creating a Google search up to the task at hand?


I can't google up something which has been deleted, such as your claim
that Veteran's always have their hands out.


I have never deleted the Google archive of any post I've made. Perhaps
you should examine the possibility that your memory is faulty. Do you
find a Google archive where you've made a claim that I said something
like that? Maybe that's what you remember.

Your thoughts seem to be straying all over the place, Brian.

Dave K8MN

Dave K8MN


Dave Heil January 1st 07 12:49 PM

No More Element 1
 
wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:08:06 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
It seems that your "proof" isn't proof at all of what you claim. Aren't
your skills in creating a Google search up to the task at hand?

Dave K8MN

there is just too much junk out there like no one can find your own
statements on the out of band french men


Heil posted the frequencies that he worked the out of band Frenchmen on
while he was in Africa. A French visitor to RRAP said that the
frequency that Heil was working the Frenchmen on was not a legal
privelege for French hams.


So you have French radio amateurs breaking French regulations, not a
case of a Tanzanian radio amateur breaking Tanzanian regs. You've
brought the matter up time and time again, in an attempt to accuse me of
wrongdoing. It never stuck because it was never true. Yet here you are
again.

Anyway, anyone can delete any of their posting through google.


I've never done so, but here you are, attempting to show that I'm part
of some nefarious cover up.

For example, I'll delete this one tomorrow /new years day/ to show that
it can be done.


See if you can delete my reply to it. If not, you should be able to
come up with replies to those posts which you can't seem to find.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] January 1st 07 01:54 PM

No More Element 1
 

wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:

Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.

There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.

sure there is you have often said

Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.

I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.

Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.

So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.

Brian, we have to quit trying to make

admit to doing
wrong.

What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.

Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en

Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.


Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.


Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.


Of course not.

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.


Of course.

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.


Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.


And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.


How can you be sure?

Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.

Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.


Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.

For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.


I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?


Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.

That's because you are mistaken.


Four people are mistaken.


That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.


Yep. Four people are mistaken.

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.


Four people "remember" things which did not happen.


Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.


That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.


If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.


Sure they are.


Yes, they are.


Sure.

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.


Four people are mistaken.


At least that many.


If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?

Four people are trying to deceive.


Maybe. I wrote "maybe even trying to deceive".


Is there a conspiracy to deceive?

And you should get your story straight, too. Is it a "no-test" amateur
radio service, or "No Test International"? The claims wander around.



Dave Heil January 1st 07 03:01 PM

No More Element 1
 
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.

Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.


Of course not.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.


Of course.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.


Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.


And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?


This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.

How can you be sure?

Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.

Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.


Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.


I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.

For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.


I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?


Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?


Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.


You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.

That's because you are mistaken.
Four people are mistaken.


That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.


Yep. Four people are mistaken.


It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words. Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.
Four people "remember" things which did not happen.

Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.


That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.


Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.
Sure they are.

Yes, they are.


Sure.


You're one obstinate character, Brian.

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.
Four people are mistaken.

At least that many.


If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?


This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?

Dave K8MN

[email protected] January 1st 07 04:29 PM

No More Element 1
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.
Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.


Of course not.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.


Of course.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.


Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.


And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?


This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?


Are those the conditions of the conspiracy? Perhaps David Heil
responded to the initial no-test proposal...

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.
How can you be sure?

Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.

Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.


Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.


I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.


Wow! Another delusional amateur.

For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.


I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?


Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?


Yes, of course. That doesn't mean that I lived it.

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?


Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.


You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.


Who is Brian?

That's because you are mistaken.
Four people are mistaken.


That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.


Yep. Four people are mistaken.


It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words. Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?


Is there?

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.


Four people "remember" things which did not happen.


Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.


That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.


Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?


As you can see, there is nonet. Except that four people remember it.

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.


Sure they are.


Yes, they are.


Sure.


You're one obstinate character, Brian.


Who is Brian?

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.


Four people are mistaken.


At least that many.


If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?


This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?

Dave K8MN


I've maintained that only four people are mistaken, you say more. How
many more?


[email protected] January 1st 07 04:37 PM

No More Element 1
 

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


It seems that your "proof" isn't proof at all of what you claim. Aren't
your skills in creating a Google search up to the task at hand?


I can't google up something which has been deleted, such as your claim
that Veteran's always have their hands out.


I have never deleted the Google archive of any post I've made. Perhaps
you should examine the possibility that your memory is faulty. Do you
find a Google archive where you've made a claim that I said something
like that? Maybe that's what you remember.

Your thoughts seem to be straying all over the place, Brian.


Who the heck is Brian?

Dave K8MN


You said that I was anonymous, didn't you?

Dave K8MN


Didn't you?

Do I have to Google that?


[email protected] January 1st 07 09:22 PM

No More Element 1
 

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.
Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.

Of course not.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.

Of course.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


I'm being manipulated by some unknown, evil force.


Four of us are. :-)

[may the Force be with us!]

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.

Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.

And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?


This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?


Are those the conditions of the conspiracy? Perhaps David Heil
responded to the initial no-test proposal...


It's all a "grande conspiracy" against the Morsemen! :-)

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.
How can you be sure?

Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.

Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.

Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.


I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.


Wow! Another delusional amateur.


Amateur extra morsemen "know" all, "see" all. They took the
highest-rate code test, therefore They are Always Right!


For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.

I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?


Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?


Yes, of course. That doesn't mean that I lived it.


Jimmie Noserve LIVED all he talked about. He is an expert
on veterans affairs...

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?

Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.


You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.


Who is Brian?


Good question! :-)

That's because you are mistaken.
Four people are mistaken.


That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.

Yep. Four people are mistaken.


It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words. Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?


Is there?


Wow...old Jimmie just NEVER will answer a challenge directly!

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.


Four people "remember" things which did not happen.


Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.

That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.


Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?


As you can see, there is nonet. Except that four people remember it.


Everyone challenging Jimmie is WRONG! :-)

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.


Sure they are.


Yes, they are.

Sure.


You're one obstinate character, Brian.


Who is Brian?


Tsk, Jimmie beats us all in the Obstinacy Department! Why,
at the drop of a carrier he will once again trot out a seven-
year-old suggestion I once made to the FCC in a comment
on FCC 98-143 to show "the error of my ways (and every-
thing else)!" :-)

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.


Four people are mistaken.


At least that many.

If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?


This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?

Dave K8MN


I've maintained that only four people are mistaken, you say more. How
many more?


Sigh...these obstinate Mighty Macho Morsemen must be powered
by Ever-Ready batteries! They keep on going...and going...and
going...

I wish they'd all leave. :-)

LA


[email protected] January 1st 07 09:25 PM

No More Element 1
 

wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


It seems that your "proof" isn't proof at all of what you claim. Aren't
your skills in creating a Google search up to the task at hand?


I can't google up something which has been deleted, such as your claim
that Veteran's always have their hands out.


I have never deleted the Google archive of any post I've made. Perhaps
you should examine the possibility that your memory is faulty. Do you
find a Google archive where you've made a claim that I said something
like that? Maybe that's what you remember.

Your thoughts seem to be straying all over the place, Brian.


Who the heck is Brian?

Dave K8MN


You said that I was anonymous, didn't you?

Dave K8MN


Didn't you?

Do I have to Google that?


YES! Anyone that challenges a Mighty Macho Morseman
MUST endlessly repost and repost OLD messages so that
the 3Ms can keep on arguing that They were "right" all
the time! :-)

LA


[email protected] January 1st 07 11:05 PM

No More Element 1
 

wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

It seems that your "proof" isn't proof at all of what you claim. Aren't
your skills in creating a Google search up to the task at hand?

I can't google up something which has been deleted, such as your claim
that Veteran's always have their hands out.

I have never deleted the Google archive of any post I've made. Perhaps
you should examine the possibility that your memory is faulty. Do you
find a Google archive where you've made a claim that I said something
like that? Maybe that's what you remember.

Your thoughts seem to be straying all over the place, Brian.


Who the heck is Brian?

Dave K8MN


You said that I was anonymous, didn't you?

Dave K8MN


Didn't you?

Do I have to Google that?


YES! Anyone that challenges a Mighty Macho Morseman
MUST endlessly repost and repost OLD messages so that
the 3Ms can keep on arguing that They were "right" all
the time! :-)

LA


Welp, Heil is wrong. He says I'm anonymous when it is convenient for
his argument, then he goes about calling me "Brian." I don't know
whats up with that guy.


[email protected] January 2nd 07 01:06 AM

No More Element 1
 
Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Tues, Dec 19 2006 6:30 pm
wrote:
wrote:
From:
on Sun, Dec 17 2006 3:22 pm
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
Perhaps now we can discuss N2EY's proposal for a No-Test service.
There was never any such proposal. You are mistaken, in error, and just
plain wrong.
sure there is you have often said
Jim/N2EY was the very first to roll that one out, at least that I am
aware of.
I am not in favor of a "No-Test" amateur radio service. Nor have I ever
advocated such.
Anyone who says I have is mistaken - in error - just plain wrong.
So when you trotted that one out way back when, it really was a
strawman as I described it then. Yet you said it wasn't.
Brian, we have to quit trying to make
admit to doing
wrong.
What "doing wrong" do you mean, Len?

Brian Burke says I came up with a proposal for a "No-Test" amateur
radio service. Yet nobody seems to be able to show us that alleged
proposal.
Brian and Len and Mark aren't the only ones who recall that you came up
with the idea.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en
Yet *none* of you have actually shown the posting where I allegedly did
this.
Anyone can go into google and delete one of their own postings.
Perhaps - if the person has a google account. But I have not done that.


Of course not.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


1) To get you into an endless argument loop

2) To misdirect away from the fact that he doesn't have any proof or
evidence to back up his claims.

All my old rrap postings are intact in the archives.


Of course.


Then why are you trying to suggest that he has? Why did you come right
out and state that I'd done so?


1) To get you into an endless argument loop

2) To misdirect away from the fact that he doesn't have any proof or
evidence to back up his claims.

And a person cannot delete the postings of another.


Didn't say they could.

So if A post
something, and A is quoted by B, the quote will still show up in B's
posting even if A deletes his post.


And if B deletes his post? Would that be a conspiracy?


This is getting interesting. If "A" states something that you believe
could be mined as a juicy nugget and "B", a person at odds with the
statement of "A", replies, you think "A" could convince "B" to cancel
his post? That sounds preposterous. There aren't many conspiracies in
which two parties with completely opposite views agree to conspire, are
there?


Of course not. What's more, such discussions often result in more than
one party quoting.

That's
why I can't find the posting of Dave Heil/K8MN saying that Veteran's
always have their hands out.


How can you be sure?


Perhaps you did not correctly remember what was actually written.


Your memory of postings here has been proved to be selective and
inaccurate.


Ditto your remembrance of what valuable contributions the Amateur
Service made during WWII when the Amateur Service was shut down and you
weren't born yet.


I don't recall that Jim claimed such as his memories. He stated
historical fact.


For example, recently you made some significant mistakes
in your account of FDR's treatment of veterans during the Great
Depression.


I wasn't alive then, how could I remember it?


Who said that you'd remember it? Did you ever take a history class?
Did you ever do any independent research on a subject?


You're missing the point, Dave.

Brian was pushing the idea of "liberal disdain for the military" and
cited Democrat FDR's alleged violent treatment of the Bonus Marchers as
an example. But it was in fact the Republican Hoover Administration
that used force against them.

The way Brian remembered the Bonus Marchers was inaccurate, but he
presented it anyway, without checking his facts, and left it up to
others to point out his mistakes.

Think about why.

Shall I repost those mistakes of yours and the corrections?


Why not just repost your statements of a no-test amateur radio service.


Can't re-post what I never posted in the first place.

You're beginning to act in a very peculiar manner, Brian.


Beginning?

That's because you are mistaken.


Four people are mistaken.


That is correct. The truth is the truth, regardless of how many deny
it.


Yep. Four people are mistaken.


It would appear so. You've failed to come up with an archived post
which states what you claim. You've not been able to come up with any
replies to such a post, quoting Jim's words.


Anyone can make unsubstantiated claims on usenet.

Is there a conspiracy
between Jim and those who would be at odds with such a post to erase all
evidence that the post was ever made?


Of course not. But Brian got you to reply, didn't he?

People sometimes "remember" things that did not happen.
Four people "remember" things which did not happen.
Yep. You're one of them. Deal with it.


That is correct. Four people remember things which did not happen.
Yep.


Where is the evidence that the "things" took place?


"Google never forgets"

Bogart never says "Play it again, Sam" in "Casablanca", yet that
misquote became so popular that it became the title of another film.
If you could *show* where I supposedly came up with - originated - a
proposal for a no-test amateur service, you might be able to prove *me*
to be mistaken.

But so far you've not been able to do that, even though all my posts
are in Google, waiting for you.
Sure they are.
Yes, they are.


Sure.


You're one obstinate character, Brian.

That's because you are mistaken. Or maybe even trying to deceive.
Four people are mistaken.
At least that many.


If more than four are mistaken, how many do you predict?


This is your charade, Brian. Why don't you do the predictions?

Consider what his goal really is.



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