"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
John Smith I wrote in news:cGYlh.25$WW2.223285
@news.sisna.com:

wrote:
...
The big question is why Len is so interested in changing the rules of
amateur radio,
when he's not involved with amateur radio in any other way.

Perhaps it just bothers him that someone is having fun?


Now I'd say that must be a trick question, as certainly, on the surface,
it appears only a moron would ask such a thing!

I'd say Len would do little or nothing to hinder anyone from having
"fun." Now, for instance, say they were hogging up all the radio freqs
for a good 'ole boys club, he'd be a ****ed as hell--and rightly so!

That is all you are seeing. Len don't give a chit about children having
fun ...

JS


I must admit he could be annoyed at a load of Morse code operators
monopolising a chunk of phone spectrum. I always was too, but only because
I wanted to use that spectrum. He apparently doesn't want to use it, which
is a little harder to understand.

BTW, Len, I have an EE degree and used to work in an EMC lab (EMC being
what most people call radio interference, approximately speaking). Some
people hear that and jump to the conclusion that I was in ham radio
enforcement, which makes me laugh, because I never was. I could just add
that I moved into the law, but the same people would probably think that I
was prosecuting interference cases (!) whereas in fact I am a patent
agent.

My point is that many hams are (or were) radio professionals, but not all
of us drop references to our professional experience when we are talking
in
a group of hams, except where it's actually relevant to the discussion. I
have met a few people who claim they could never be hams because they have
professional experience in radio, but I have never understood that point
of
view.

Get a licence and try 'slumming' on the ham bands, Len. You won't be the
only one, you know!

73 de Alun, N3KIP

Very well put, Alun. I oft wonder whether Len, with his condescending
attitude, considers or takes into mind that there are many of us in these
groups that are fairly well educated.
Len quite obviously views himself as being a self-appointed, master
"wordsmith" and finds a great amount of smug pleasure jousting with licensed
Amateurs.
I once saw it written that Mister Len was a Master of Flatus. It was an
accurate descriptor. To date I've seen nothing to rebut that description.

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Get a licence and try 'slumming' on the ham bands, Len. You won't be the
only one, you know!

Alun,

You have to understand... Lennie doesn't *WANT* to get a ham license. He has
pretty much been posting the same drivel to this newsgroup for a decade. I
refer you to the following posting I made *7* years ago on this very topic:

-=- Begin Dejanews Quote

From: (Mike Deignan)
Subject: Anderson proposes new licensing restrictions
Date: 1999/02/17
Message-ID: #1/1
References:

X-Trace: news15.ispnews.com 919249817 155.212.1.12 (Wed, 17 Feb 1999
06:10:17 EDT)
Organization: S.S. Minnow Island Charter
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:10:17 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy

In article ,
N2EY wrote:

LAAh yes, the warm-hearted convivial stormtrooper from central africa
LAMUST make his SUPERIORITY known! Four year olds who can beep (along
LAwith parents who have conned the VEs into passing them) are considered
LA"superior" to those who are not licensed in the amateur radio service.

Anderson is challenged to show that there were any irregularities in the
testing of the young people involved.

Actually Jim, the above quote summarizes Lennie's problem in a nutshell.
It ****es him off to no end that 4-year olds are able to get ham radio
licenses, and he, well, can't (or won't).

Lennie's vitrol is sometimes amusing, most of the time boring. A cursory
review of DejaNews will show that Lennie has never had a kind word for
amateurs, or the amateur radio service.

Almost 2 decades ago when I was in my teens, we had a grandmother living
with us. She used to constantly bitch, moan, and complain. She was a
lonely, bitter old woman whose time had passed by, and her goal in life
was to make everyone else equally as miserable as her. She couldn't be
happy, then by golly neither would anyone else.

That's pretty much the Lennie Anderson of today. As a CB Radio operator,
for decades he has been on the outside of ham radio looking in. That nasty
code test has been 'holding him back'. And, by golly, if *HE* can't be a
ham operator, and be worshiped by the masses (the intellectual giant he
is), well, then nobody should be able to enjoy ham radio.

That's pretty much my mental image of Lennie. A senile old fart, rocking
in his corner rocking chair, who occasionally wipes the drool of his face,
plugs in his telephone to his 300 baud acoustic-coupler modem, and uses
his VT100 green-screen to spread hate and discontent.

MD

-=- End Quote

So, as you see Alun, nothing has changed over the past 7 years, except the
email address he uses when he posts.

73
KH6HZ

From: "KH6HZ" on Mon, Jan 1 2007 8:40 am

Here's a direct, unedited, verbatim quote from
Michael P. Deignan made on Monday, January 1, 2006
showing a typical example of "courteous, logical
'debate'" from a code-tested amateur extra:

That's pretty much my mental image of Lennie. A senile old fart, rocking
in his corner rocking chair, who occasionally wipes the drool of his face,
plugs in his telephone to his 300 baud acoustic-coupler modem, and uses
his VT100 green-screen to spread hate and discontent.

Oh, my, Mikey forgot to include "wearing pampers" and
"dribbling pablum" as another morse maven from New
Jersey wrote... :-)

Tsk, "senility" hasn't yet set in, I have NO "rocking
chair" and only "drool" mentally seeing certain women
of great natural beauty. I can't remember ever using
a "VT100", only one of the early Tektronix smart
terminals and the last time I used an acoustic coupler
for a computer connection was in 1977 at Teledyne
Electronics in Newbury Park, CA. The first mainframe
CRT terminal I used was an RCA-manufactured model
(made in Van Nuys, CA) back in 1973. [the RCA
"Spectra 70" mainframe was made there although
I've never been a part of that work] I am rather
familiar with "green screens" since that CRT phosphor
has been common since I've been working in electronics
(since 1952). My wife has a rocking chair (antique)
but it is up at the northern house and was used by
our grandniece during nursing of her new baby boy.

My PC is a standard Hewlett-Packard box purchased almost
three years ago at Fry's Electronics in Burbank, CA, one
with modest clock rate (1.2 GHz) but with a 56K modem on
a plug-in. 40 GB HD, only 128 MB of RAM, with USB ports
as well as standard serial and parallel interface. The
monitor is a Samsung 712N LCD 17" flat screen that is
almost two years old (also purchased at Fry's). A recent
addition is an HP wireless keyboard and mouse (also from
Fry's, a giant supermarket of consumer electronics in
nearby Burbank). Note: The wireless mouse needs a new
set of batteries almost every month...supplied by a set
of NiMH batteries charged by an battery chargers
formerly used only for household tasks. :-(

The office in our dwelling (the southern house) has
"his and her" computer desks which I made in 1999 (six
foot long glued wooden countertops sold for kitchens,
with extra-wide keyboard shelves also made by me)
including AC power outlets and modular telephone jacks
at each "desk." Ample workspace. I've been a user of
WordPerfect since release 5.1 and now have release 8.
I have the full version of Adobe Acrobat and know how
to use all softwares in my computer. That includes
SPICE (a free download from Linear Technology) and my
own-written packages...and am beginning to write
programs directly for Windows using PowerBasic (MS
quit supporting FORTRAN years ago and their version 9
and up Windows don't support all DOS-level programs).
I've gotten a copy of (free) "JustBasic" and am trying
that out...looks easier to use.

While I don't have the stamina or agility of a twenty-
year-old now, my wife and I have not been pursuing (as
we once did) an active lifestyle. That is due to my
wife having undergone a successful hip joint
replacement procedure in August. While there were
(thankfully) no problems with that, the recovery
period is about a year according to her surgeon. The
scheduling of the surgery caused us to put off a trip
to the midwest for our 55th High School Class Reunion
(we went to the 50th in 2001, both of us being in
the same class). We did go to my wife's 50th Reunion
at Beloit College, Beloit, Wisconsin in 2005, driving
the whole way. Car is a modest 2005 Chevrolet Malibu
MAXX and I do most of the driving...still passing all
required written tests with no physical problems
preventing my holding a driving license.

MD

Tsk, you are neither licensed Medical Doctor nor live
in Maryland. :-)

So, as you see Alun, nothing has changed over the past 7 years, except the
email address he uses when he posts.

MUCH has changed! See FCC 06-178 announced on 15th
December! The USA has been attacked by kamikazi
muslim extremists (not just pro-coder olde fahrts),
Shrub sent the US off to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Amateur radio "restructuring" happened (R&O FCC
99-412 released 30 December 1999) and the amateur
radio licensee numbers have been slowly dropping.
Now, I admit to not taking advantage of the free
IEEE e-mail forwarding alias until a couple years
ago somewhat long after I became a Life Member.
My wife and I became "great grands" and joined
the HDTV generation, getting excellent digital TV
through Time-Warner cable service (subscriber box
has a Tivo-like recorder capable of recording two
programs at the same time for 20 hours maximum).
Two of the ardent morse mavens in this newsgroup
passed away and the ARRL staffers seem to avoid the
newsgroup now. You've missed a LOT!

Oh, and not to forget: Michael P. Deignan got his
MANY "club calls" taken away from him by the FCC!
Sunnuvagun! The "RF Commandos" were mustered out
of militant service? :-)

Mikey, I'll flip you something: The bird.

Byeeee...