"KH6HZ" wrote in message
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"KC4UAI" wrote:

So, do I consider myself an expert in all things Ham Radio by
virtue of my license class? Nope

Oddly enough, virtually all the "extras" I met during my tenure as a
"non-extra" didn't consider themselves Einsteins either. Now that I'm an
Extra, I do not consider myself an Einstein either.

It seems that only a small subset of hams (and non-hams) who post to this
forum seem to run into these self-proclaimed Einstein Extras.

But then, if you read their postings long enough, you'll begin to
understand that this bias towards Extras really isn't due to the fact
these extras are self-proclaimed Einsteins, but rather the fact that these
Extras passed a 20wpm code test at one point or another.

73
kh6hz



I believe the bias goes even deeper. Even if code were not an issue, that
bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met a higher written
requirement too. In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

On Jan 29, 10:40 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...

"KC4UAI" wrote:

So, do I consider myself an expert in all things Ham Radio by
virtue of my license class? Nope

Oddly enough, virtually all the "extras" I met during my tenure as a
"non-extra" didn't consider themselves Einsteins either. Now that I'm an
Extra, I do not consider myself an Einstein either.

It seems that only a small subset of hams (and non-hams) who post to this
forum seem to run into these self-proclaimed Einstein Extras.

But then, if you read their postings long enough, you'll begin to
understand that this bias towards Extras really isn't due to the fact
these extras are self-proclaimed Einsteins, but rather the fact that these
Extras passed a 20wpm code test at one point or another.

73
kh6hz

I believe the bias goes even deeper. Even if code were not an issue, that
bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met a higher written
requirement too.

Dee, I believe you are the first Extra to recognize that not all
writtens are the same. Since the beginning of the code debate, and
now with the passing of the code exam, we are made to believe that the
writtens are a mere insignificant formality and all the real content
was in the code exam.

Of course that's not true. Thank you for being and Extra and pointing
that out. You are a No Code Technician in spirit!

In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

Never. Just don't equate the Extra exam or having Extraness as if it
were an engineering degree. We'll get along Quitefine.

On Jan 30, 3:48�am, wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:40 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...

"KC4UAI" wrote:

So, do I consider myself an expert in all things Ham Radio by
virtue of my license class? *Nope

Oddly enough, virtually all the "extras" I met during my tenure as a
"non-extra" didn't consider themselves Einsteins either. Now that I'm an
Extra, I do not consider myself an Einstein either.

It seems that only a small subset of hams (and non-hams) who post to this
forum seem to run into these self-proclaimed Einstein Extras.

But then, if you read their postings long enough, you'll begin to
understand that this bias towards Extras really isn't due to the fact
these extras are self-proclaimed Einsteins, but rather the fact that these
Extras passed a 20wpm code test at one point or another.

73
kh6hz

I believe the bias goes even deeper. *Even if code were not an issue, that
bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met a higher written
requirement too. *

Dee, I believe you are the first Extra to recognize that not all
writtens are the same. *Since the beginning of the code debate, and
now with the passing of the code exam, we are made to believe that the
writtens are a mere insignificant formality and all the real content
was in the code exam.

Of course that's not true. *Thank you for being and Extra and pointing
that out. *You are a No Code Technician in spirit!

In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

Never. *Just don't equate the Extra exam or having Extraness as if it
were an engineering degree. *We'll get along Quitefine.

...and if we send like Slow Code... :-)

On Jan 31, 12:30 am, "
wrote:
On Jan 30, wrote:





On Jan 29, 10:40 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...

"KC4UAI" wrote:

So, do I consider myself an expert in all things Ham Radio by
virtue of my license class? ?Nope

Oddly enough, virtually all the "extras" I met during my tenure as a
"non-extra" didn't consider themselves Einsteins either. Now that I'm an
Extra, I do not consider myself an Einstein either.

It seems that only a small subset of hams (and non-hams) who post to this
forum seem to run into these self-proclaimed Einstein Extras.

But then, if you read their postings long enough, you'll begin to
understand that this bias towards Extras really isn't due to the fact
these extras are self-proclaimed Einsteins, but rather the fact that these
Extras passed a 20wpm code test at one point or another.

73
kh6hz

I believe the bias goes even deeper. ?Even if code were not an issue, that
bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met a higher written
requirement too. ?

Dee, I believe you are the first Extra to recognize that not all
writtens are the same. ?Since the beginning of the code debate, and
now with the passing of the code exam, we are made to believe that the
writtens are a mere insignificant formality and all the real content
was in the code exam.

Of course that's not true. ?Thank you for being and Extra and pointing
that out. ?You are a No Code Technician in spirit!

In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

Never. ?Just don't equate the Extra exam or having Extraness as if it
were an engineering degree. ?We'll get along Quitefine.

...and if we send like Slow Code... :-)

Who knows how Vince sends code? I sure don't.

Hopefully he doesn't send code poorly so that a No Code Technician
with a computer can't copy it.

From: on Thurs, Feb 1 2007 3:57 am
On Jan 31, 12:30 am, " wrote:
On Jan 30, wrote:

In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

I wonder if we can quote Dee on that? quizical look

Maybe she should talk to Cranky Spanky about that?

Never. ?Just don't equate the Extra exam or having Extraness as if it
were an engineering degree. ?We'll get along Quitefine.

...and if we send like Slow Code... :-)

Who knows how Vince sends code? I sure don't.

Ahem...:-)...I was referring to how he POSTED in here...:-)

Hopefully he doesn't send code poorly so that a No Code Technician
with a computer can't copy it.

He is welcome to QSO with Dick Carroll any time. shrug

"We" know what that involves. he said, crypt-ically

219,
LA

"Dee Flint" wrote

I believe the bias goes even deeper. Even if code were not an
issue, that bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met
a higher written requirement too. In today's society, it seems to be
politically incorrect to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

You're probably correct. Now that the morse requirement is gone, the focus
will turn towards something else.

What I've observed (particularly in this forum) is a great deal of
resentment towards extra-class operators, coupled with derogatory comments
regarding morse-code and its use as a licensing requirement.

The whole claim of "Einstein Extras" is one mere example.

There are people who are in all walks of life who think they know
everything. That some of those people are bound to have extra-class ham
licenses.

99.99% of the time when I encounter those types of people, I do my best to
avoid them, and do not let their ignorance cloud my judgement against an
entire class of person. It is too bad some folks in this forum cannot do the
same, and enjoy interacting with others, rather than going out of their way
to be combative and antagonistic.

73
kh6hz

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"KH6HZ" wrote in message
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"KC4UAI" wrote:

So, do I consider myself an expert in all things Ham Radio by
virtue of my license class? Nope

Oddly enough, virtually all the "extras" I met during my tenure as a
"non-extra" didn't consider themselves Einsteins either. Now that I'm an
Extra, I do not consider myself an Einstein either.

It seems that only a small subset of hams (and non-hams) who post to this
forum seem to run into these self-proclaimed Einstein Extras.

But then, if you read their postings long enough, you'll begin to
understand that this bias towards Extras really isn't due to the fact
these extras are self-proclaimed Einsteins, but rather the fact that
these Extras passed a 20wpm code test at one point or another.

73
kh6hz



I believe the bias goes even deeper. Even if code were not an issue, that
bias would still exist simply because the Extra has met a higher written
requirement too. In today's society, it seems to be politically incorrect
to have acquired more knowledge than someone else.

Dee, N8UZE

indeed you are corect Dee I conmpltly aggree







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