Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs, whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10 applicants/testees ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I predicted)

While some who want to keep our bands "to themselves" (at least until
they're reallocated for lack of/diminishing use) will bemoan this, I am
elated!

From what I've seen, the ARRL BoD is "Getting It" about the need to welcome
new hams and strongly discourage any berating/insulting/bad treatment of
them just because they didn't have to take a Morse test. BRAVO!

I hope that ALL hams will "get with the program" and act like decent human
beings/Elmers towards the impending, apparently significant influx of
newcomers.

Treat them right and they will assimilate - treat the crappy and you'll
regret it in the long run.

73,
Carl - wk3c

On Jan 31, 11:03�pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs, whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10 applicants/testees ....
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!

It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I predicted)

Well, maybe.

We don't know if those reservations are for new hams, or for existing
hams
planning to upgrade.

We also don't know how long the "surge" will last.

Back in 2000, when both the Morse Code and written testing were
reduced, there was a
surge of growth. But it only lasted a short time, and now we're more
than 18,000 US hams
*fewer* than we were in May 2000. (see the long-lived thread "ARS
License Numbers" for
exact numbers).

IOW, the growth from the last license-requirements change did not
last. Hopefully, that won't be the case with this change.

While some who want to keep our bands "to themselves" (at least until
they're reallocated for lack of/diminishing use) will bemoan this, I am
elated!

I don't know any who want to "keep the bands to themselves". Who would
they be?

There *are* folks with differing ideas as to what the requirements for
a license will be.

From what I've seen, the ARRL BoD is "Getting It" about the need to welcome
new hams and strongly discourage any berating/insulting/bad treatment of
them just because they didn't have to take a Morse test. *BRAVO!

I hope that ALL hams will "get with the program" and act like decent human
beings/Elmers towards the impending, apparently significant influx of
newcomers.

From what I read on the various reflectors, that has always been the
case in most of
amateur radio.

Treat them right and they will assimilate - treat the crappy and you'll
regret it in the long run.

Remember that it's a two-way street, as well.

---

We'll see about the growth in a few weeks/months/years.

Good to hear from you, Carl.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03�pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs, whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10 applicants/testees ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I predicted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted in
five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining their new
licenses. I seem to recall that you'd commented some time ago that some
people might want to take such an exam before the elimination of Morse
testing.

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
ink.net...
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs,
whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10 applicants/testees
...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I
predicted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted in
five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining their new
licenses. I seem to recall that you'd commented some time ago that some
people might want to take such an exam before the elimination of Morse
testing.

I'm still waiting...so I guess he's right.

"Bob Brock" wrote in message
.. .

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
ink.net...
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs,
whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am
not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10
applicants/testees ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I
predicted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted in
five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining their new
licenses. I seem to recall that you'd commented some time ago that some
people might want to take such an exam before the elimination of Morse
testing.

I'm still waiting...so I guess he's right.

My bad. I was reading pretty quickly and posted some nonsense. My apology.

Bob

"Bob Brock" wrote in message
.. .

"Bob Brock" wrote in message
.. .

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
ink.net...
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs,
whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am
not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10
applicants/testees ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I
predicted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted in
five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining their new
licenses. I seem to recall that you'd commented some time ago that some
people might want to take such an exam before the elimination of Morse
testing.

I'm still waiting...so I guess he's right.

My bad. I was reading pretty quickly and posted some nonsense. My
apology.

Bob

with the punce gotcha he wonders
why I simple don't bother to ty impoving my spelling do u hav anyting
cognet two say?
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/



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On Feb 1, 12:49�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL VECs, whose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I am not
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with each
session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10 applicants/testees ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I predicted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted in
five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining their new
licenses. *I seem to recall that you'd commented some time ago that some
people might want to take such an exam before the elimination of Morse
testing.

Yep, that's right.

In fact Carl, WK3C, was a major contributor to a local radio club
prize for the *last* person in the club to pass Element 1.
(See his earlier posting at the start of a different thread for
details.)

---

Hopefully, the upcoming changes to the license requirements will
result in a new era of long-term growth in amateur radio, as has been
repeatedly predicted and promised by many of those in favor of the
changes.

But what if it doesn't?

73 es KC de Jim, N2EY

wrote in
oups.com:

On Feb 1, 12:49�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL
VECs, w
hose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I
am n
ot
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with
each session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10
applicants/teste
es ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I
predi
cted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted
in five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining
their new licenses. *I seem to recall that you'd commented some time
ago that some people might want to take such an exam before the
elimination of Morse testing.

Yep, that's right.

In fact Carl, WK3C, was a major contributor to a local radio club
prize for the *last* person in the club to pass Element 1.
(See his earlier posting at the start of a different thread for
details.)

---

Hopefully, the upcoming changes to the license requirements will
result in a new era of long-term growth in amateur radio, as has been
repeatedly predicted and promised by many of those in favor of the
changes.

But what if it doesn't?

A question might be "what are you going to do to insure that it doesn't?
(Not you specifically)

My group is already working to make sure that the new folks don't
feel shunned, and in recognition that many of the new folks will be
inexperienced as compared to years past, we plan on some pretty
extensive Elmering. It should be great fun.

One possible fly in the ointment is that just as there are Hams who
wouldn't upgrade to Extra because their advanced license proved they
took a higher speed code test, there are some who will probably do all
they can to have their dire predictions be a self fulfilling prophecy.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
36...
wrote in
oups.com:

On Feb 1, 12:49�pm, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:03?pm, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
Information from within ARRL indicates that last year the ARRL
VECs, w
hose
teams handle over 70% ov al VE sessions, per their claim (which I
am n
ot
confirming nor disputing), performed over 5,000 VE sessions (with
each session handling multiple applicants/testees).

According to the report, the average session was 5-10
applicants/teste
es ...
(25-50k testees)

"Reservations" have now jumped to 50-75/session!!!

That's excellent!
It appears that no-code WILL result in significant growth. (as I
predi
cted)

Well, maybe.

W3GEG told me that this past week's VE session in Morgantown resulted
in five fellows who took and passed Morse Code exams in obtaining
their new licenses. I seem to recall that you'd commented some time
ago that some people might want to take such an exam before the
elimination of Morse testing.

Yep, that's right.

In fact Carl, WK3C, was a major contributor to a local radio club
prize for the *last* person in the club to pass Element 1.
(See his earlier posting at the start of a different thread for
details.)

---

Hopefully, the upcoming changes to the license requirements will
result in a new era of long-term growth in amateur radio, as has been
repeatedly predicted and promised by many of those in favor of the
changes.

But what if it doesn't?

A question might be "what are you going to do to insure that it doesn't?
(Not you specifically)

My group is already working to make sure that the new folks don't
feel shunned, and in recognition that many of the new folks will be
inexperienced as compared to years past, we plan on some pretty
extensive Elmering. It should be great fun.

One possible fly in the ointment is that just as there are Hams who
wouldn't upgrade to Extra because their advanced license proved they
took a higher speed code test, there are some who will probably do all
they can to have their dire predictions be a self fulfilling prophecy.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Well I keep trying to spread the word on ham radio and try to get people to
try the hobby. However, batting zero here. If my hypothesis is correct
that we've basically "saturated the market" then the best we can hope for is
a sustainable level but no long term growth. I have met many people who
have heard little to nothing about ham radio until I start talking about it.
I've met no one who has stayed away because of any test requirements. The
ones I've talked to don't even know that we have to be licensed.

Dee, N8UZE

Dee, N8UZE

Mike Coslo wrote:

One possible fly in the ointment is that just as there are Hams who
wouldn't upgrade to Extra because their advanced license proved they
took a higher speed code test, there are some who will probably do all
they can to have their dire predictions be a self fulfilling prophecy.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

Count me as an Advanced Class licensee who plans to upgrade (and keep my 2x3
callsign). However, *before* doing so, I intend to obtain a = 20wpm Morse
proficiency certificate.

73,
Bryan WA7PRC