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On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code
test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?


Not universal enough as Techs and Generals cannot operate there.

Dee, N8UZE

On Feb 9, 10:09 pm, "Dee Flint" wrote:
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On Feb 9, 2:16 am, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37 pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on HF who have not passed a code
test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air. Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first. So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

50 Khz up from the lower edges of the five traditional HF bands.

Quadruple the number of minutes per week W1AW & Co. transmits 5, 7.5
and 10WPM code practice sessions.

w3rv

How 'bout 14.007?

Not universal enough as Techs and Generals cannot operate there.

He knows that Dee, ignore him, he's just being a mindless jerk as
usual

Dee, N8UZE

w3rv

On Feb 8, 9:37�pm, robert casey wrote:
At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

*Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

*So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

?Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

?So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

Counterproposal:

For Casey's concept to work the QRS freqs should be where the CW
activity lives in it's largest volumes 24/7. 40M any time but mostly
at night and 20M anytime but mostly during daylight hours.

It's unreasonable to expect slocode learners and elmers to latch up
reliably on more than a couple bands at most. So there goes 80, 15,
10M and the WARC bands.

7.050 at the top of the hour and 14.050 at the half hour marks.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv










73 de Jim, N2EY

On Feb 9, 11:47?pm, wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:

On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

?Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

?So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

Counterproposal:

For Casey's concept to work the QRS freqs should be where the CW
activity lives in it's largest volumes 24/7. 40M any time but mostly
at night and 20M anytime but mostly during daylight hours.

Techs and Novices don't have 20. Late at night
even 40 gets iffy.

It's unreasonable to expect slocode learners and elmers to latch up
reliably on more than a couple bands at most. So there goes 80, 15,
10M and the WARC bands.

At this time of the sunspot cycle, 80 is the most reliable after
dark.

Novices and Techs don't have the WARC bands so they're not a good
choice.

7.050 at the top of the hour and 14.050 at the half hour marks.

Works for me. Plus 3.550 on the quarter hours

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Feb 9, 11:47 pm, wrote:

7.050 at the top of the hour and 14.050 at the half hour marks.

73 de Jim, N2EY

w3rv

Hey, Sparky, what about the silent periods?

On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

At some point, there will be hams on
HF who have not passed a code test,
but want to give Morse code a try on the air.

Yup.

?Of course they're not
going to be that skillful at first.

Let's not assume that.

The days of the amateur world getting 40WPM ditty boppers from the
military or Western Union are long gone. You'll have to home grow any
new converts. Expect them to be less than skillful.

Should one come along that is skillful, you won't be able to tell if
they've passed a code test or not. Your eleitist attitude will make
you think they have.

?So maybe there should be an
informal subband or frequency for beginners and elmers to hang out.

3.525 to 3.600 MHz
7.025 to 7.125 MHz
21.025 to 21.200 MHz
28.0 to 28.5 MHz

14.007 MHz

Right now, all the above frequencies are available to all FCC licensed
amateurs who have passed a Morse Code test. They are the current
"Novice bands".

On February 23, they will be available to all FCC licensed amateurs.

What better place to use Morse Code?

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

73 de Jim, N2EY

Fair enough. Have you deconflicted these freqs with other modes?

wrote:
On Feb 9, 6:29 pm, wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:37?pm, robert casey wrote:

I suggest 3.550 and 7.050 as "watering holes".

73 de Jim, N2EY

Fair enough. Have you deconflicted these freqs with other modes?

"Deconflicted" isn't a recognized verb.

Can you tell us the frequencies where Morse Code may not be used?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
Can you tell us the frequencies where Morse Code may not be used?

60m?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
Can you tell us the frequencies where Morse Code may not be used?

60m?

That's the area. I was hoping hot-ham-and-cheese would be able to tell
us. It looks like everything on the suggested frequencies has been
"deconflicted".

Dave K8MN