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On Feb 17, 9:11 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
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Then you know


Yes, I do. A PO Box can be for an individual, a business, or a household. In
the case of the latter do, multiple individuals may receive mail there.


Then you're either Jeffrey Hermann, Jeffrey Hermann's relation, or
Jeffrey Hermann's employee.

How do you plead?

BTW, there was a 12th callsign at your street address issued
to a YL.


There never has been "12" callsigns. Try counting again.

Don't you trust
her to keep your mail from stacking up or blowing away?


Nope. Living on a rural route, my mailbox gets destroyed at least twice a
winter by snowplows.

Again, "Mark" and your PO Box are not the subject of this discussion.
Hermann's box in Hawaii is.


Irrelevant.


Not irrelevant. The subject is Hermann's PO Box in Hawaii.

You claim it is "illegal" and "fraudulent" to have multiple
people use the same PO box. There was no such regulation codified in the
regulations in the late 90's. Nor is there any such regulation, for that
matter, codified today.

So basically, until charges are filed, no crime has occurred.


If a "crime" was being committed, without a doubt the PostMaster would be
the first to notice it, and, without a doubt, bring it to my attention (or,
alert the appropriate authorities), since I see him at least twice a month.

Almost interesting. Most any other DF club seems to be able to get by
with the callsign of the beacon owner with a "stroke B" to indicate
that its a beacon.


I prefer to have a separate, dedicated callsign, for beacon transmissions.


Did you have 12 beacons?

Sounds like "Hot Water" and "Cold Feet." Greed cost Mike a friend.


You're privvy to our friendship too? Wow. You're really psychic. Can I have
tonite's lotto #'s too while you're at it?



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On Feb 17, 9:11 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote:
Then you know

Yes, I do. A PO Box can be for an individual, a business, or a household. In
the case of the latter do, multiple individuals may receive mail there.


Then you're either Jeffrey Hermann, Jeffrey Hermann's relation, or
Jeffrey Hermann's employee.


For the entire time I lived overseas, my U.S. mailing address, as far as
the FCC was concerned was that of WA8JOC in Cincinnati. I did not
physically reside there. I was not an employee of WA8JOC. I am not
related to WA8JOC. Despite these things, my providing the FCC that
address did not constitute fraud and it broke no laws. It didn't
attempt to circumvent any laws.

WA8JOC's address is still the FCC address of record for a number of
Finnish radio amateurs who took and passed U.S. licensing exams.
My own address is the FCC address of record for one Finnish radio
amateur who took such an exam. The FCC says that applicants must have a
U.S. address, not that the applicant must reside at that address.
The applicant must either a U.S. Social Security number *or* a Taxpayer
Identification Number. Those Finnish hams were able to obtain a TIN
without ever having had a SSN. This was done after the FCC was
contacted directly about the situation and asked what should be done.

For all other mailing purposes in the U.S., my parents addresses in
Kentucky and in Georgia were used as my address of record in the United
States. I had not resided with them for decades. I broke no laws nor
did I commit fraud.

In 1993, I provided the Department of State a legal residence address
which is the same as the address I now have. No mail was being sent
here and there was not even a rural mailbox standing at this location.
I didn't live here until 2000.

You may now chew on these statements and attempt to reconcile them.

Dave K8MN
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"Dave Heil" wrote:

You may now chew on these statements and attempt to reconcile them.


Damn Dave! You're gonna confuzzle all the riders on the Short Bus with all
these facts!

73
kh6hz


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KH6HZ wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote:

You may now chew on these statements and attempt to reconcile them.


Damn Dave! You're gonna confuzzle all the riders on the Short Bus with all
these facts!


Anyone can see that hot-ham-and-cheese's purpose is not to seek truth.
He is still bearing a chip the size of Somalia on his shoulder.

Dave K8MN

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On Feb 18, 11:33 am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 9:11 pm, "KH6HZ" wrote:
wrote:
Then you know
Yes, I do. A PO Box can be for an individual, a business, or a household. In
the case of the latter do, multiple individuals may receive mail there.


Then you're either Jeffrey Hermann, Jeffrey Hermann's relation, or
Jeffrey Hermann's employee.


For the entire time I lived overseas, my U.S. mailing address, as far as
the FCC was concerned was that of WA8JOC in Cincinnati. I did not
physically reside there. I was not an employee of WA8JOC. I am not
related to WA8JOC. Despite these things, my providing the FCC that
address did not constitute fraud and it broke no laws. It didn't
attempt to circumvent any laws.

WA8JOC's address is still the FCC address of record for a number of
Finnish radio amateurs who took and passed U.S. licensing exams.
My own address is the FCC address of record for one Finnish radio
amateur who took such an exam. The FCC says that applicants must have a
U.S. address, not that the applicant must reside at that address.
The applicant must either a U.S. Social Security number *or* a Taxpayer
Identification Number. Those Finnish hams were able to obtain a TIN
without ever having had a SSN. This was done after the FCC was
contacted directly about the situation and asked what should be done.

For all other mailing purposes in the U.S., my parents addresses in
Kentucky and in Georgia were used as my address of record in the United
States. I had not resided with them for decades. I broke no laws nor
did I commit fraud.

In 1993, I provided the Department of State a legal residence address
which is the same as the address I now have. No mail was being sent
here and there was not even a rural mailbox standing at this location.
I didn't live here until 2000.

You may now chew on these statements and attempt to reconcile them.

Dave K8MN


Were you, WA8JOC, any number of Finnish radio amateurs, or your
parents using Jeffrey Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii?

You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.



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You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.


And poor Brian still cant post a single reference to a postal regulation
which stipulates a PO Box cannot be used by multiple people.

Poor, Poor, Brian.


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"KH6HZ" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.


And poor Brian still cant post a single reference to a postal regulation
which stipulates a PO Box cannot be used by multiple people.

Poor, Poor, Brian.


They don't care about facts. All they linger on are the accusations.


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On Feb 18, 8:02 pm, "Paul W. Schlock" MM@beerenemasrule wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

... wrote:

You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.


And poor Brian still cant post a single reference to a postal regulation
which stipulates a PO Box cannot be used by multiple people.


Poor, Poor, Brian.


They don't care about facts. All they linger on are the accusations.


KH6HZ

MICHAEL P DEIGNAN
706 S. Rodney French Blvd
New Bedford MA 02744

WE1RD Lookups: 434
MICHAEL P DEIGNAN REPEATER ASSOCIATION
39 SUTTON ST APT 1
PROVIDENCE RI 02903

Callsign: KB1CCE Class: Club Codes: HAB USA
Name: RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER
Addr1: 156 Gazza Road
Addr2: Chepachet, RI 02814
Country: USA
Effective: 30 May 2000 Expires: 20 Feb 2007 Online Renewals...
FCC: ULS Listing
Trustee: KH6HZ, MICHAEL P DEIGNAN

----------------

To freshen everyone's memory, here is a current search of the name,
"Deignan:"
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Callsign lookup results for:


CALL "" NAME "DEIGNAN" CITY "" STATE "" ZIP "" LIMIT "0100"


Program v1.3 - 8 March 1997 -- Last database update 1998-08-02 11:02


KH6HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P LIC ISU 4-
DEC-1997
ADVANCED 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 14-
OCT-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 4-
DEC-1997


WH6DDR WAIKIKI WIRELESS ASSOCIATION LIC ISU 6-
MAR-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 6-
MAR-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 6-
MAR-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDQ MANANA ISLAND IOTA GROUP LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDP RF COMMANDOS HAWAII CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDN PACIFIC ISLE DX SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDO KAMAAINA KILOWATT CLUB LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDM GREATER HONOLULU QRP SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1CCE RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCY CLOSED REPEATER COORDINATION SOCIETY LIC ISU 8-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 8-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 8-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCX MICHAEL P DEIGNAN AMATEUR RADIO ASSOCIATLIC ISU 7-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 7-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 7-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1AYF DEIGNAN, DIANE P LIC ISU 26-
OCT-1993
TECH PLUS 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 26-
OCT-2003
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 24-
FEB-1996

Since the above does not, for some strange reason, give a return for
KD6HZ in
its own right, everyone may be wondering who KD6HZ is. So I
searched. The
database said the call has been changed to KH6HZ. And who is KH6HZ?
Well,
none other than:


HamCallTM Query Results:
KH6HZ


Click for
map
Country Info
Michael P. Deignan
136 Nelson St
Providence, RI 02908


License Class: Advanced

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 8:02 pm, "Paul W. Schlock" MM@beerenemasrule wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...

wrote:

You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.


And poor Brian still cant post a single reference to a postal

regulation
which stipulates a PO Box cannot be used by multiple people.


Poor, Poor, Brian.


They don't care about facts. All they linger on are the accusations.


KH6HZ

MICHAEL P DEIGNAN
706 S. Rodney French Blvd
New Bedford MA 02744

WE1RD Lookups: 434
MICHAEL P DEIGNAN REPEATER ASSOCIATION
39 SUTTON ST APT 1
PROVIDENCE RI 02903

Callsign: KB1CCE Class: Club Codes: HAB USA
Name: RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER
Addr1: 156 Gazza Road
Addr2: Chepachet, RI 02814
Country: USA
Effective: 30 May 2000 Expires: 20 Feb 2007 Online Renewals...
FCC: ULS Listing
Trustee: KH6HZ, MICHAEL P DEIGNAN

----------------

To freshen everyone's memory, here is a current search of the name,
"Deignan:"
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Callsign lookup results for:


CALL "" NAME "DEIGNAN" CITY "" STATE "" ZIP "" LIMIT "0100"


Program v1.3 - 8 March 1997 -- Last database update 1998-08-02 11:02


KH6HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P LIC ISU 4-
DEC-1997
ADVANCED 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 14-
OCT-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 4-
DEC-1997


WH6DDR WAIKIKI WIRELESS ASSOCIATION LIC ISU 6-
MAR-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 6-
MAR-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 6-
MAR-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDQ MANANA ISLAND IOTA GROUP LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDP RF COMMANDOS HAWAII CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDN PACIFIC ISLE DX SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDO KAMAAINA KILOWATT CLUB LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDM GREATER HONOLULU QRP SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1CCE RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCY CLOSED REPEATER COORDINATION SOCIETY LIC ISU 8-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 8-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 8-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCX MICHAEL P DEIGNAN AMATEUR RADIO ASSOCIATLIC ISU 7-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 7-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 7-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1AYF DEIGNAN, DIANE P LIC ISU 26-
OCT-1993
TECH PLUS 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 26-
OCT-2003
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 24-
FEB-1996

Since the above does not, for some strange reason, give a return for
KD6HZ in
its own right, everyone may be wondering who KD6HZ is. So I
searched. The
database said the call has been changed to KH6HZ. And who is KH6HZ?
Well,
none other than:


HamCallTM Query Results:
KH6HZ


Click for
map
Country Info
Michael P. Deignan
136 Nelson St
Providence, RI 02908


License Class: Advanced


Oh, GROAN! Shades of Wiseman.


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Gee Bry, for someone who went ballistic when his address was posted, you
seem to have no qualms about doing the same

Hey Dipwad!! how's that report coming

WHAT A HYPOCRITE

now watch..little Marcus Morgan, the Jewish Nazi will come running to you
defense

A pair of sickos




wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 8:02 pm, "Paul W. Schlock" MM@beerenemasrule wrote:
"KH6HZ" wrote in message

...
wrote:

You must have missed the part where this is about the use of Jeffrey
Hermann's PO Box on Hawaii.


And poor Brian still cant post a single reference to a postal
regulation
which stipulates a PO Box cannot be used by multiple people.


Poor, Poor, Brian.


They don't care about facts. All they linger on are the accusations.


KH6HZ

MICHAEL P DEIGNAN
706 S. Rodney French Blvd
New Bedford MA 02744

WE1RD Lookups: 434
MICHAEL P DEIGNAN REPEATER ASSOCIATION
39 SUTTON ST APT 1
PROVIDENCE RI 02903

Callsign: KB1CCE Class: Club Codes: HAB USA
Name: RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER
Addr1: 156 Gazza Road
Addr2: Chepachet, RI 02814
Country: USA
Effective: 30 May 2000 Expires: 20 Feb 2007 Online Renewals...
FCC: ULS Listing
Trustee: KH6HZ, MICHAEL P DEIGNAN

----------------

To freshen everyone's memory, here is a current search of the name,
"Deignan:"
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Callsign lookup results for:


CALL "" NAME "DEIGNAN" CITY "" STATE "" ZIP "" LIMIT "0100"


Program v1.3 - 8 March 1997 -- Last database update 1998-08-02 11:02


KH6HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P LIC ISU 4-
DEC-1997
ADVANCED 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 14-
OCT-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 4-
DEC-1997


WH6DDR WAIKIKI WIRELESS ASSOCIATION LIC ISU 6-
MAR-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 6-
MAR-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 6-
MAR-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDQ MANANA ISLAND IOTA GROUP LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDP RF COMMANDOS HAWAII CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDN PACIFIC ISLE DX SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDO KAMAAINA KILOWATT CLUB LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DDM GREATER HONOLULU QRP SOCIETY LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1CCE RF COMMANDOS RHODE ISLAND CHAPTER LIC ISU 20-
FEB-1997
CLUB 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 20-
FEB-2007
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 20-
FEB-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCY CLOSED REPEATER COORDINATION SOCIETY LIC ISU 8-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 8-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 8-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


WH6DCX MICHAEL P DEIGNAN AMATEUR RADIO ASSOCIATLIC ISU 7-
JAN-1997
CLUB P. O. BOX 8282 LIC EXP 7-
JAN-2007
HONOLULU HI 96830-0282 LST UPD 7-
JAN-1997
KD1HZ DEIGNAN, MICHAEL P IS
RESPONSIBLE


KB1AYF DEIGNAN, DIANE P LIC ISU 26-
OCT-1993
TECH PLUS 136 NELSON ST LIC EXP 26-
OCT-2003
PROVIDENCE RI 02908 LST UPD 24-
FEB-1996

Since the above does not, for some strange reason, give a return for
KD6HZ in
its own right, everyone may be wondering who KD6HZ is. So I
searched. The
database said the call has been changed to KH6HZ. And who is KH6HZ?
Well,
none other than:


HamCallTM Query Results:
KH6HZ


Click for
map
Country Info
Michael P. Deignan
136 Nelson St
Providence, RI 02908


License Class: Advanced





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