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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:46:19 -0500, KC8GXW-Jim
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:20:57 -0800, John Smith I
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Would you buy a used car from these men?

Paul W. Schleck, K3FU
Bob Diepenbrock, KC4UAI
Jack Cook, VK2CJC
Jim Hampton, AA2QA
Ace Ratliff, WH2T
Jeff Angus, WA6FWI
Hans Brakob, K0HB
Bill Horne, W1AC
Mike Coslo, KB3EIA

Personally, I'd decline.


some of them certainly not butI expect RRAM to look say rec.radio.eme
in a few weeks

JS

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

what do this hav to do with radio?

they are the mods of a new radio related NG thus Id say it has
something to do with radio

But that is a different NG; it has nothing to do with this NG and is off
topic. kb9rqz and len anderson are often off topic, thus they support a
fellow troublemaker (John Smith) when he posts off topic.

On Feb 25, 7:22 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:

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But that is a different NG; it has nothing to do with this NG and is off
topic. kb9rqz and len anderson are often off topic, thus they support a
fellow troublemaker (John Smith) when he posts off topic.

Any post which mentions any newsgroup(s) and/or moderator(s) of such
newsgroups who might influence POLICY for their own benefit, wants,
and desires and need to be watched is RIGHT ON TOPIC in my humble
opinion ...

The british viewed out forefathers as "troublemakers", Martin Luther
King was viewed as a troublemaker, Caesar Chavez was viewed as a
troublemaker, Ghandi was viewed as a troublemaker, those ending child
labor were viewed a troublemakers--yanno, the term "troublemaker" just
does NOT offend me in the least, indeed, I'll take that as a
complement.

JS

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On Feb 25, 7:22 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:

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But that is a different NG; it has nothing to do with this NG and is off
topic. kb9rqz and len anderson are often off topic, thus they support a
fellow troublemaker (John Smith) when he posts off topic.

Any post which mentions any newsgroup(s) and/or moderator(s) of such
newsgroups who might influence POLICY for their own benefit, wants,
and desires and need to be watched is RIGHT ON TOPIC in my humble
opinion ...

The british viewed out forefathers as "troublemakers", Martin Luther
King was viewed as a troublemaker, Caesar Chavez was viewed as a
troublemaker, Ghandi was viewed as a troublemaker, those ending child
labor were viewed a troublemakers--yanno, the term "troublemaker" just
does NOT offend me in the least, indeed, I'll take that as a
complement.

The thread you started was an unprovoked, ad nominem attack on several good
people, not all of whom I have always agreed with but all of whom demand a
lot more respect than your and your buddies do, based on your (mis)
behaviour on this NG.

On Feb 25, 8:05 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:

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The thread you started was an unprovoked, ad nominem attack on several good
people, not all of whom I have always agreed with but all of whom demand a
lot more respect than your and your buddies do, based on your (mis)
behaviour on this NG.

It is my understanding that "public figures" (and, public newsgroup
moderators) are not granted the same expectation of privacy as common
everyday joes. Indeed, the position they seek to place themselves in,
where they can affect common/everyday joes, demands they have no such
consideration.

Public figures are meant to be watched, criticized, and their motives
examined in microscopic detail. Their character, caliber, actions,
speech, etc. is wide open to review and re-review. They are open to
dress and redress by the public who they wish to serve. Such is
democratic republic. Such responsibility they willing accept when
they attempt to gain a position of influence ...

If they wish to be unknown hermits, that demands another course be
followed ...

JS

From: on Sun, Feb 25 2007 7:40 pm

On Feb 25, 7:22 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:

...
But that is a different NG; it has nothing to do with this NG and is off
topic. kb9rqz and len anderson are often off topic, thus they support a
fellow troublemaker (John Smith) when he posts off topic.

Any post which mentions any newsgroup(s) and/or moderator(s) of such
newsgroups who might influence POLICY for their own benefit, wants,
and desires and need to be watched is RIGHT ON TOPIC in my humble
opinion ...

This "Wolfe" is one of the ultra-conservative in a hobby
activity who desires the status-quo abnormally much.
They abhor CHANGE as some equivalent work of the devil.
Naturally They will classify ANY change as "making trouble."

There IS something to be said in favor of such non-change
conservatism. Considering the state of the art in all
electronics (including "radio") is in constant evolution,
it is difficult to keep up with it...that takes time away
from playing with their radios. Or, it may be a "survival
trait" in that sticking with the KNOWN is comforting and
gives the illusion of security; i.e., "tribal safety."

Or, it may be just plain EGO demanding that others do as
the conservatives do it...because they "know what is best
for amateur radio." :-)

The british viewed out forefathers as "troublemakers", Martin Luther
King was viewed as a troublemaker, Caesar Chavez was viewed as a
troublemaker, Ghandi was viewed as a troublemaker, those ending child
labor were viewed a troublemakers--yanno, the term "troublemaker" just
does NOT offend me in the least, indeed, I'll take that as a
complement.

I'll take as both compliment and "complement.' :-)

'Complement' because there are OTHER valid conditions
that exist besides those of the uber-conservative.

BTW, Martin Luther (probable namesake of Rev. King) was
one of the more ardent "troublemakers" to the Catholic
church of his time. The established Catholic clergy of
that time were far from perfect and the church itself
was forced to reform (and to re-form) itself.

In a way, the above is what is happening to the Church
of St. Hiram in the holy city of Newington. The elders
of that sect are being dragged (kicking a screaming in
protest) into the 21st Century of radio hobby-dom.

Ciao,
LA

On Feb 26, 3:02?pm, "
wrote:

......did you forget?

Back in September of 2006, you wrote a post to
rec.radio.amateur.policy that can be seen at:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en

In that post, you were asked:

"What is the end-goal of your continuing participation here?"

And you replied:

"It is as I've stated many years ago, "to advocate
the elimination of the manual morse code test in US
amateur radio licensing. When that elimination happens, I will leave
this newsgroup." "

In case you missed it, the manual Morse Code
test for a US amateur radio license has been
eliminated completely back on Feb 23, 2007.

Yet here it is several days later and you have are
still posting to RRAP. You wrote that you were
going to leave, but you're still here.

Why?

Jim, N2EY

wrote:

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Yet here it is several days later and you have are
still posting to RRAP. You wrote that you were
going to leave, but you're still here.

Why?

Jim, N2EY

I think Len only remains out of popular demand, I do like to read
something of intelligent design now and then, and the dry wit is
enjoyable--makes one wonder how many catch on? wink

JS

On Feb 26, 2:23�pm, John Smith I wrote:
wrote:

* ...

Yet here it is several days later and you have are
still posting to RRAP. You wrote that you were
going to leave, but you're still here.

Why?

Jim, N2EY

I think Len only remains out of popular demand, I do like to read
something of intelligent design now and then, and the dry wit is
enjoyable--makes one wonder how many catch on? wink

Well, John, it's like this: I CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT
POSTING IN HERE! :-)

In fact, I mentioned that in another thread earlier.

Self-styled guru cum "moderator" Miccolis seems to be
of the belief system that, once some statement is
posted, the stater MUST HOLD TO THAT "PROMISE!"

****y pedantry of Miccolis overlooked, there will be more
from me in the near future. :-)

But, Miccolis is going to do the "Cause Celebre'" with
that and spend weeks or months (perhaps years) on
some imagined "promise" made by me. Miccolis
MUST RULE in here, at least in his mind. Gets
annoying but that's how it is with the little people...

LA

wrote:
On Feb 26, 3:02?pm, "
wrote:

.....did you forget?

Back in September of 2006, you wrote a post to
rec.radio.amateur.policy that can be seen at:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en

In that post, you were asked:

"What is the end-goal of your continuing participation here?"

And you replied:

"It is as I've stated many years ago, "to advocate
the elimination of the manual morse code test in US
amateur radio licensing. When that elimination happens, I will leave
this newsgroup." "

In case you missed it, the manual Morse Code
test for a US amateur radio license has been
eliminated completely back on Feb 23, 2007.

Yet here it is several days later and you have are
still posting to RRAP. You wrote that you were
going to leave, but you're still here.

Why?

That's an easy one, Jim. Len's claim of only being here to eliminate
Morse Code testing in amateur radio licensing was a falsehood as
evidenced by his posts over better than a decade. It follows that his
claim that he'd leave after the elimination of Morse testing was also false.

He has decided to go on with peculiar tales of some mythical "Church of
St. Hiram" and the goofy idea of mounting a low frequency loop antenna
horizontally when mounted near (in terms of wavelength) to the ground.

Dave K8MN