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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "K4YZ" wrote:
On Feb 26, 9:04?pm, wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/26/sig....ap/index.html I guess Robeson REALLY didn't like my Part 15 remarks... ?bb Other than the fact that the article involved the Marine Corps, I am wondering what that article had to do with me, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You were a Marine? |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
On Feb 27, 7:38�pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "K4YZ" wrote: On Feb 26, 9:04?pm, wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/26/sig....ap/index.html I guess Robeson REALLY didn't like my Part 15 remarks... ?bb * * *Other than the fact that the article involved the Marine Corps, I am wondering what that article had to do with me, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You were a Marine? "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS ham radio." :-) It is very doubtful he was ever an 18-year-active-duty USMC person. There has been NO, repeat NO PROOF of that available to anyone in here. No document copies, not even a snapshot of him IN the service. 73, LA |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 27, 7:38?pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "K4YZ" wrote: On Feb 26, 9:04?pm, wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/26/sig....ap/index.html I guess Robeson REALLY didn't like my Part 15 remarks... ?bb Other than the fact that the article involved the Marine Corps, I am wondering what that article had to do with me, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You were a Marine? * "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS ham radio." :-) This assertion is simply not correct. In order to join MARS and receive a MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service for that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a military member. Additionally, there are separate MARS frequencies outside of the allocations reserved for the amateur service that are excluded from regular Part 97 use. How can Len say MARS is "ham" radio? It is a special military radio service. I think Mr. Anderson may be too devoured in the treasured memories of his old Austin Healy with the 23 channel CB (before his XYL made him sell both) to think logiocally about matters concerning real amateur radio (i.e., not 11m). |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
From: "Stefan Wolfe" on Wed, Feb 28 2007 7:24 pm
wrote in message On Feb 27, 7:38?pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "K4YZ" wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/26/sig....ap/index.html I guess Robeson REALLY didn't like my Part 15 remarks... ?bb Other than the fact that the article involved the Marine Corps, I am wondering what that article had to do with me, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You were a Marine? * "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS ham radio." :-) This assertion is simply not correct. I agree but Steven James Robeson, K4YZ, wrote it. See the quote marks up there? You were not present when Robeson was told of his obvious error...by several others. I posted the link to the DoD directive on MARS operations. In order to join MARS and receive a MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service for that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a military member. You had best look up the various service branch MARS web pages and correct yourself on the above. Additionally, there are separate MARS frequencies outside of the allocations reserved for the amateur service that are excluded from regular Part 97 use. Not only am I well aware that MARS frequencies are NOT in US amateur band allocations but I have so stated before in here. How can Len say MARS is "ham" radio? Here's a clue, Gomer, "Len" did NOT say that. "Len" simply quoted Robesin's Gomer-Pyleish statement to Hans Brakob. It is a special military radio service. MARS is an acronym standing for Military Affiliate Radio Service. MARS is NOT a tactical or strategic radio service for US military radio communications...it never was. The predecessor to MARS was born before WW2 in the US Army, a quaint idea to get US amateurs involved in hopes that some "new technology" in radio might be tried out or shown to the US Army. As far as radio design for the Army is concerned, that did not appear to happen. I think Mr. Anderson may be too devoured in the treasured memories of his old Austin Healy with the 23 channel CB (before his XYL made him sell both) to think logiocally about matters concerning real amateur radio (i.e., not 11m). The '53 A-H sports car was traded in for a 61 Chevvy Impala convertible. The CB was transferred to the Impala and used often for years after that. Oh, and the 11m CB band USED to be part of the 11m US amateur radio allocation prior to 1958. Steppinwolfe, was there anything else you wanted to **** up on "corrections" or are you satisfied with ****ing up your present posting? On the F-U meter you are only hitting about an S7 with a great deal of selective fading. Try tuning up your mind a LOT better next time, OK? LA |
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On Feb 28, 11:22�pm, John Smith wrote:
wrote: * ... * *Steppinwolfe, was there anything else you wanted to **** up * *on "corrections" or are you satisfied with ****ing up your * *present posting? *On the F-U meter you are only hitting about * *an S7 with a great deal of selective fading. *Try tuning up * *your mind a LOT better next time, OK? * *LA Len: When things get to heavy, just go get laid ... always has worked for me. We'll worry about the rest tomorrow ... "Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday." - tagline I agree with your "cure," JS. Try telling that to Miccolo Tesla. :-) 73, LA |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
wrote in message ps.com... From: "Stefan Wolfe" on Wed, Feb 28 2007 7:24 pm I agree but Steven James Robeson, K4YZ, wrote it. See the quote marks up there? You were not present when Robeson was told of his obvious error...by several others. I posted the link to the DoD directive on MARS operations. In order to join MARS and receive a MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service for that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a military member. You had best look up the various service branch MARS web pages and correct yourself on the above. You are correct but this is a very insignificant point. Additionally, there are separate MARS frequencies outside of the allocations reserved for the amateur service that are excluded from regular Part 97 use. Not only am I well aware that MARS frequencies are NOT in US amateur band allocations but I have so stated before in here. As if everyone here has read all of your posts over the last 10 years? I see you like to flatter yourself. How can Len say MARS is "ham" radio? Here's a clue, Gomer, "Len" did NOT say that. "Len" simply quoted Robesin's Gomer-Pyleish statement to Hans Brakob. You did not attribute the quote by name or even say it was a quote. You merely inserted quote marks which, when not properly attributed, makes grammatical nonsense. However, poor grammar is to be overlooked for many individuals including yourself in this newsgroup. It is a special military radio service. MARS is an acronym standing for Military Affiliate Radio Service. MARS is NOT a tactical or strategic radio service for US military radio communications...it never was. Really. OMG, I thought MARS was a Top SECRET classified confidential and highly tactical/strategic radio service that was used on different frequencies than the ham bands so we couldn't hear what the military was saying. Did the Russians know about this too? The predecessor to MARS was born before WW2 in the US Army, a quaint idea to get US amateurs involved in hopes that some "new technology" in radio might be tried out or shown to the US Army. As far as radio design for the Army is concerned, that did not appear to happen. It only served to put a few service people in touch with their loved ones during WW2, korea and VN. Then this "new technology" as you put it was all forgotten due to the other big secret that I think you're holding back on: Roswell. And the +/- gravity amplifiers. After the saucer crashes, the military considered ham radio to be relatively low tech so MARS was relegated to a low place on the military budget, but I know you must deny this :-)) I think Mr. Anderson may be too devoured in the treasured memories of his old Austin Healy with the 23 channel CB (before his XYL made him sell both) to think logiocally about matters concerning real amateur radio (i.e., not 11m). The '53 A-H sports car was traded in for a 61 Chevvy Impala convertible. The CB was transferred to the Impala and used often for years after that. Oh, and the 11m CB band USED to be part of the 11m US amateur radio allocation prior to 1958. Steppinwolfe, was there anything else you wanted to **** up on "corrections" or are you satisfied with ****ing up your present posting? On the F-U meter you are only hitting about an S7 with a great deal of selective fading. Try tuning up your mind a LOT better next time, OK? Well, I might suggest you avoid the "f" word when posting. Remember, whatever you post here is and always will be accessible to everyone who cares to research you on usenet. Do you have grandchildren? Whatever you write here will be publically available to hundreds of your future offspring, some of whom will likely be researching usenet for the profound writings of their great great great grandfather Len. Authoring posts like this with the "f" word will show them how little class their ancestor had. Ever think of that, bud? However, I think we all can agree it will be 20K times worse for offshoots of kb9rqz (I feel sorry for them already!). |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
On Mar 1, 5:31�pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... From: "Stefan Wolfe" on Wed, Feb 28 2007 7:24 pm * I agree but Steven James Robeson, K4YZ, wrote it. *See the quote * marks up there? * You were not present when Robeson was told of his obvious * error...by several others. *I posted the link to the DoD * directive on MARS operations. In order to join MARS and receive a MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service for that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a military member. * You had best look up the various service branch MARS * web pages and correct yourself on the above. You are correct but this is a very insignificant point. NOT to the military nor the particular MARS group. As if everyone here has read all of your posts over the last 10 years? I see you like to flatter yourself. No. No flattery is necessary. Brian Burke, Hans Brakob and myself tried to correct Robesin but - as usual - he refused to be corrected. That particular thread ran for months. That quote was VERY familiar to ANYONE seeing it at the time. Really. OMG, I thought MARS was a Top SECRET classified confidential and highly tactical/strategic radio service that was used on different frequencies than the ham bands so we couldn't hear what the military was saying. Did the Russians know about this too? You are writing gibberish again. MARS did not carry any classified or secure communications nor was it "secret" to any amateur years ago. I doubt ANY MARS station ever carried classified communications. In 1954, for example, the Tokyo MARS station was a two- room office space at the FEC Hq building (the former Japanese military Hq building during WW2, would later revert back as the Japanese Self Defense Force Hq when FEC Hq was moved to Fort Shafter, HI. MARS got to use bits and pieces of RF transmitters on a very low priority - if and only if it was available. I know this as a member of the REAL tactical-strategic Army station that served the FEC Hq at the time. In late 1955 the Tokyo MARS station got moved to Hardy Barracks in west-central Tokyo and was permitted to get multi- band beam antenna and more amateur-like equipment. The predecessor to MARS * was born before WW2 in the US Army, a quaint idea to get US * amateurs involved in hopes that some "new technology" in radio * might be tried out or shown to the US Army. *As far as radio * design for the Army is concerned, that did not appear to happen. It only served to put a few service people in touch with their loved ones during WW2, korea and VN. NOT "during" WW2. NOT "during" the active part of the Korean War. The Korean War entered a permanent Truce period in July 1953 and that has NOT ended to this day. In 1954 and beyond, there were sufficient voice telephone circuits available commercially to enable "loved ones" to communicate directly with military personnel...IF and only IF those personnel were free to use such commercial communications. Officers and other higher-rank civilians were able to do so but not the vast majority of the rest. Red Cross messaging was available (on a low priority to military comms) and usually sent over non-busy TTY circuits after the end of a "radio day" (which was about 2 to 3 AM local Tokyo time). This was seen at ADA Control center where I spent a month filling in for a regular center E-5 who was on emergency leave. During that time one of the TTY relay tape handlers on midnight shift got to see a copy of a Red Cross message saying he had just become a father. Proud new papa was then chewed out by the Officer in Charge of TTY relay for "looking at unauthorized messages!" That OIC was later reprimanded by the signal battalion commander for that...and wound up on the immediate list for return to civilian life as a reservist, something that was the Army's equivalent to "downsizing" after the Truce. MARS *is* given credit for its messaging during the Vietnam War morale support. You can find that at the US Army Center for Military History on Signal Operations during the Vietnam War. The DoD dates the 'Nam War from 1965 to 1973 and is over 30 years in the past. Then this "new technology" as you put it was all forgotten due to the other big secret that I think you're holding back on: Roswell. And the +/- gravity amplifiers. After the saucer crashes, the military considered ham radio to be relatively low tech so MARS was relegated to a low place on the military budget, but I know you must deny this :-)) You are nuts. Well, I might suggest you avoid the "f" word when posting. Remember, whatever you post here is and always will be accessible to everyone who cares to research you on usenet. Do you have grandchildren? No. My grand-nephew is presently serving in Iraq as a PFC with a heavy-equipment moving and repair unit. I am proud of his voluntary service and know damn-****ing-well how he and his buddies "talk" as one who went before him. Authoring posts like this with the "f" word will show them how little class their ancestor had. Ever think of that, bud? You've been taking lessons from the Nun of the Above? Drop the ANONYMOUS Sister act with knuckle-spanking ruler. One transgendered sissy in here is enough. Two is way too many. However, I think we all can agree it will be 20K times worse for offshoots of kb9rqz (I feel sorry for them already!). No, that's WRONG. Given the posting examples of one who managed to get the callsign of K4YZ (there are no psychological tests of radio amateurs), HIS progeny are probably carrying his gene material. That is NOT GOOD for the human race. Or for the USMC. Steppinwolfe, why go on with your ANONYMITY? You don't fool anyone. You are simply ignorant of radio communications in general, certainly so for the USA which has a lot of communications history available for the learning. Get some help with your "belief" in aliens and flying saucers. Or go infiltrate "Area 51" and get arrested for trespassing on US military property...you will then get some "help" on your crazy belief trauma. LA |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
On Mar 1, 9:15 pm, "
wrote: On Mar 1, 5:31?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... From: "Stefan Wolfe" on Wed, Feb 28 2007 7:24 pm ? I agree but Steven James Robeson, K4YZ, wrote it. ?See the quote ? marks up there? ? You were not present when Robeson was told of his obvious ? error...by several others. ?I posted the link to the DoD ? directive on MARS operations. Robesin didn't know what the MOD was. Robesin didn't know what a Base Support Team was. It was all about eavesdropping on "private" calls between deployed pers and their stateside wives... In order to join MARS and receive a MARS call sign, one must be approved by a branch of the military service for that purpose and one must be a present, retired or family member of a military member. ? You had best look up the various service branch MARS ? web pages and correct yourself on the above. You are correct but this is a very insignificant point. NOT to the military nor the particular MARS group. No lie of Robesin's will be categorized as "insignificant..." As if everyone here has read all of your posts over the last 10 years? I see you like to flatter yourself. No. No flattery is necessary. Brian Burke, Hans Brakob and myself tried to correct Robesin but - as usual - he refused to be corrected. That particular thread ran for months. That quote was VERY familiar to ANYONE seeing it at the time. Anyone at all. Robesin's exact quote has become the flag of both MARS and Amateur Radio stupidity. Really. OMG, I thought MARS was a Top SECRET classified confidential and highly tactical/strategic radio service that was used on different frequencies than the ham bands so we couldn't hear what the military was saying. Did the Russians know about this too? You are writing gibberish again. MARS did not carry any classified or secure communications nor was it "secret" to any amateur years ago. I doubt ANY MARS station ever carried classified communications. When the Air Force deployed troops to Somalia to bring over the 10th Mtn and others, the assigned AF MARS Call was classified until it was activated. Fortunatley, the Air Force had robust enough communications to not have to activate the callsign for AF personnel. The USN was being stingy with MARS, and only when I offered to activate the AF MARS for MWR calls for the USMC personnel did the USN let go of a callsign for the location. Sad, but true. In 1954, for example, the Tokyo MARS station was a two- room office space at the FEC Hq building (the former Japanese military Hq building during WW2, would later revert back as the Japanese Self Defense Force Hq when FEC Hq was moved to Fort Shafter, HI. MARS got to use bits and pieces of RF transmitters on a very low priority - if and only if it was available. I know this as a member of the REAL tactical-strategic Army station that served the FEC Hq at the time. In late 1955 the Tokyo MARS station got moved to Hardy Barracks in west-central Tokyo and was permitted to get multi- band beam antenna and more amateur-like equipment. Where was Robesin? Miccolis? The predecessor to MARS ? was born before WW2 in the US Army, a quaint idea to get US ? amateurs involved in hopes that some "new technology" in radio ? might be tried out or shown to the US Army. ?As far as radio ? design for the Army is concerned, that did not appear to happen. It only served to put a few service people in touch with their loved ones during WW2, korea and VN. NOT "during" WW2. NOT "during" the active part of the Korean War. The Korean War entered a permanent Truce period in July 1953 and that has NOT ended to this day. In 1954 and beyond, there were sufficient voice telephone circuits available commercially to enable "loved ones" to communicate directly with military personnel...IF and only IF those personnel were free to use such commercial communications. Officers and other higher-rank civilians were able to do so but not the vast majority of the rest. Where was Robesin? Miccolis? Red Cross messaging was available (on a low priority to military comms) and usually sent over non-busy TTY circuits after the end of a "radio day" (which was RADAY. about 2 to 3 AM local Tokyo time). This was seen at ADA Control center where I spent a month filling in for a regular center E-5 who was on emergency leave. During that time one of the TTY relay tape handlers on midnight shift got to see a copy of a Red Cross message saying he had just become a father. Proud new papa was then chewed out by the Officer in Charge of TTY relay for "looking at unauthorized messages!" That OIC was later reprimanded by the signal battalion commander for that...and wound up on the immediate list for return to civilian life as a reservist, something that was the Army's equivalent to "downsizing" after the Truce. Robesin was never an "OIC" therefore he could not have been the actual culprit. However, he claims to have been an "A" NCOIC. MARS *is* given credit for its messaging during the Vietnam War morale support. You can find that at the US Army Center for Military History on Signal Operations during the Vietnam War. The DoD dates the 'Nam War from 1965 to 1973 and is over 30 years in the past. Robesin was not there. Then this "new technology" as you put it was all forgotten due to the other big secret that I think you're holding back on: Roswell. And the +/- gravity amplifiers. Yikes!!! Robesin is an Alien. That explains much... After the saucer crashes, the military considered ham radio to be relatively low tech so MARS was relegated to a low place on the military budget, but I know you must deny this :-)) You are nuts. Soy nuts. Well, I might suggest you avoid the "f" word when posting. Remember, whatever you post here is and always will be accessible to everyone who cares to research you on usenet. Do you have grandchildren? No. My grand-nephew is presently serving in Iraq as a PFC with a heavy-equipment moving and repair unit. I am proud of his voluntary service and know damn-****ing-well how he and his buddies "talk" as one who went before him. Robesin's USMC didn't use the "f" word, according to Robesin. This is how I know that Robesin wasn't a Marine. Authoring posts like this with the "f" word will show them how little class their ancestor had. Ever think of that, bud? You've been taking lessons from the Nun of the Above? Drop the ANONYMOUS Sister act with knuckle-spanking ruler. One transgendered sissy in here is enough. Two is way too many. Fortunately for Robesin, none of his progeny were able to read/write. Excrement eating will me completely missed by them, thank goodness. However, I think we all can agree it will be 20K times worse for offshoots of kb9rqz (I feel sorry for them already!). No, that's WRONG. Given the posting examples of one who managed to get the callsign of K4YZ (there are no psychological tests of radio amateurs), HIS progeny are probably carrying his gene material. That is NOT GOOD for the human race. Or for the USMC. True enough. However, I'm not so sure that any of Robesin's DNA has survived... Steppinwolfe, why go on with your ANONYMITY? You don't fool anyone. You are simply ignorant of radio communications in general, certainly so for the USA which has a lot of communications history available for the learning. Get some help with your "belief" in aliens and flying saucers. Or go infiltrate "Area 51" and get arrested for trespassing on US military property...you will then get some "help" on your crazy belief trauma. LA- I'm thinking that Steppin Wolf never served... |
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USMC Waxes Part 15 Devices
On Feb 28, 1:12 pm, "
wrote: On Feb 27, 7:38?pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "K4YZ" wrote: On Feb 26, 9:04?pm, wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/26/sig....ap/index.html I guess Robeson REALLY didn't like my Part 15 remarks... ?bb ? ? ?Other than the fact that the article involved the Marine Corps, I am wondering what that article had to do with me, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You were a Marine? "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS ham radio." :-) It is very doubtful he was ever an 18-year-active-duty USMC person. There has been NO, repeat NO PROOF of that available to anyone in here. No document copies, not even a snapshot of him IN the service. 73, LA No proof. None. Just preposterous claims of heroism. |
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