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March 8th 07, 02:41 AM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote:
Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Mar 4, 10:09 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: [snip] All of amateur radio is fine for the casual operator. Ok then, let's do the same as some typical European countries. Only one license class and every one takes the equivalent of the Extra class written exam. Prior to the no code change, they did not have entry level licenses. All licenses took the same written (basically equivalent to our Extra written) and those who passed code got everything while those who didn't were VHF/UHF only. When the code was dropped, they folded the two groups into one. No need to haul out the many variations that existed. While some countries did have an entry license with a simpler written there were others who didn't. In some countries, you had to take formal classes and you were not allowed to take the test if you had just studied on your own. Dee, N8UZE Dee Are you saying you see that last as a positive thing? It would certainly be good for the technical education industry but does that make it a good thing for amateur radio. If a formal course were a requirement then I imagine that it would be easier to find one. I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR/AG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lessee... The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... |
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March 9th 07, 10:49 PM
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March 9th 07, 11:05 PM
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Passing Element 4 (Was: "....Revolution?"
On Mar 9, 5:49�pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
wrote: On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote: I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. *I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of knowledge that the exam tests for. *At the urging of the VEs that ran my general exam I took the extra the same day. *I didn't pass but I did get a sense of what the exam is testing for. *I only recall two questions on digital circuits or logic. *Should I really take an entire course for the sake of those two questions? Tom, Congrats on your new General! A suggestion on the Extra written: The entire question pool is available free-for-the-download at various sites. Also, there are online *practice* exams at a number of sites, too. They use the actual test Q&A, and will tell you which you get wrong and which you get right, so you know your strong points and where you need a bit more study. If you (or anyone else here) are stumped by any of the questions or explanations, just ask me and I'll help out. Email or newsgroup, here or rec.radio.amateur.moderated. 73 es GL de Jim, N2EY |
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March 10th 07, 02:44 AM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 9, 6:05 pm, wrote:
On Mar 9, 5:49?pm, Thomas Horne wrote: wrote: On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote: I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. ?I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of knowledge that the exam tests for. ?At the urging of the VEs that ran my general exam I took the extra the same day. ?I didn't pass but I did get a sense of what the exam is testing for. ?I only recall two questions on digital circuits or logic. ?Should I really take an entire course for the sake of those two questions? Tom, Congrats on your new General! A suggestion on the Extra written: The entire question pool is available free-for-the-download at various sites. Also, there are online *practice* exams at a number of sites, too. They use the actual test Q&A, and will tell you which you get wrong and which you get right, so you know your strong points and where you need a bit more study. If you (or anyone else here) are stumped by any of the questions or explanations, just ask me and I'll help out. Email or newsgroup, here or rec.radio.amateur.moderated. ..moderated indeed. I'd be cautious of asking questions on RRAP... W3RV might try to be "helpful." 73 es GL de Jim, N2EY- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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March 10th 07, 02:40 AM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 9, 5:49 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
wrote: On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote: Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message egroups.com... On Mar 4, 10:09 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: [snip] All of amateur radio is fine for the casual operator. Ok then, let's do the same as some typical European countries. Only one license class and every one takes the equivalent of the Extra class written exam. Prior to the no code change, they did not have entry level licenses. All licenses took the same written (basically equivalent to our Extra written) and those who passed code got everything while those who didn't were VHF/UHF only. When the code was dropped, they folded the two groups into one. No need to haul out the many variations that existed. While some countries did have an entry license with a simpler written there were others who didn't. In some countries, you had to take formal classes and you were not allowed to take the test if you had just studied on your own. Dee, N8UZE Dee Are you saying you see that last as a positive thing? It would certainly be good for the technical education industry but does that make it a good thing for amateur radio. If a formal course were a requirement then I imagine that it would be easier to find one. I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR/AG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lessee... The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of knowledge that the exam tests for. At the urging of the VEs that ran my general exam I took the extra the same day. I didn't pass but I did get a sense of what the exam is testing for. I only recall two questions on digital circuits or logic. Should I really take an entire course for the sake of those two questions? -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR Tom, if you failed the Extra exam by two questions, then perhaps an entire course is worthwhile... And what would it hurt to have more knowledge than that minimum required to pass an exam? After all, it's what you do with your license that's important. The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would benefit you. Good luck getting to Extra. |
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March 10th 07, 03:30 AM
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March 10th 07, 04:32 AM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 9, 10:30 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
wrote: ..................... The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would benefit you. Good luck getting to Extra. I didn't say that I missed by two questions. I said I only saw two questions on the exam that were related to digital circuits. I was wondering if it was worth taking the entire digital course to prepare for two questions. No, it's not. A night spent digesting a chapter or two on the subject area in the ARRL Handbook should be more than enough prep on the subject. I'd like to get the license as soon as possible so that I can serve as a control operator on any frequency that might be useful for emergency services work. That is were my particular interest lies. I will be taking those courses once I have finished the Exam preparation. What I was hoping to find was a course that is focused on preparing for the Extra Class Exam. ~~~ You might consider one of these: http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=8659#top http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Class-El.../dp/0945053266 ttp://www.gordonwestradioschool.com/ http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/FCCTest/ -- Tom Horne w3rv .. . One of those nasty hostile old 20wpm Extras who knows EVERYTHING . . Like how to put up antennas and get T5 cards . . |
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March 10th 07, 02:41 PM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 9, 10:30 pm, Thomas Horne wrote:
wrote: On Mar 9, 5:49 pm, Thomas Horne wrote: wrote: On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote: Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message glegroups.com... On Mar 4, 10:09 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: [snip] All of amateur radio is fine for the casual operator. Ok then, let's do the same as some typical European countries. Only one license class and every one takes the equivalent of the Extra class written exam. Prior to the no code change, they did not have entry level licenses. All licenses took the same written (basically equivalent to our Extra written) and those who passed code got everything while those who didn't were VHF/UHF only. When the code was dropped, they folded the two groups into one. No need to haul out the many variations that existed. While some countries did have an entry license with a simpler written there were others who didn't. In some countries, you had to take formal classes and you were not allowed to take the test if you had just studied on your own. Dee, N8UZE Dee Are you saying you see that last as a positive thing? It would certainly be good for the technical education industry but does that make it a good thing for amateur radio. If a formal course were a requirement then I imagine that it would be easier to find one. I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR/AG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lessee... The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of knowledge that the exam tests for. At the urging of the VEs that ran my general exam I took the extra the same day. I didn't pass but I did get a sense of what the exam is testing for. I only recall two questions on digital circuits or logic. Should I really take an entire course for the sake of those two questions? -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR Tom, if you failed the Extra exam by two questions, then perhaps an entire course is worthwhile... And what would it hurt to have more knowledge than that minimum required to pass an exam? After all, it's what you do with your license that's important. The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would benefit you. Good luck getting to Extra. I didn't say that I missed by two questions. I said I only saw two questions on the exam that were related to digital circuits. Sorry. I was wondering if it was worth taking the entire digital course to prepare for two questions. I'd like to get the license as soon as possible so that I can serve as a control operator on any frequency that might be useful for emergency services work. That is were my particular interest lies. That was my interest for getting a license, too. I will be taking those courses once I have finished the Exam preparation. What I was hoping to find was a course that is focused on preparing for the Extra Class Exam. -- Tom Horne The ARRL publishes videos for licensing. Maybe some group locall has them. Good luck, bb |
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March 10th 07, 06:23 PM
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A "Codeless Revolution?"
On Mar 10, 9:41 am, wrote:
On Mar 9, 10:30 pm, Thomas Horne wrote: wrote: On Mar 9, 5:49 pm, Thomas Horne wrote: wrote: On Mar 5, 12:12 am, Thomas Horne wrote: Dee Flint wrote: wrote in message glegroups.com... On Mar 4, 10:09 am, "Dee Flint" wrote: [snip] All of amateur radio is fine for the casual operator. Ok then, let's do the same as some typical European countries. Only one license class and every one takes the equivalent of the Extra class written exam. Prior to the no code change, they did not have entry level licenses. All licenses took the same written (basically equivalent to our Extra written) and those who passed code got everything while those who didn't were VHF/UHF only. When the code was dropped, they folded the two groups into one. No need to haul out the many variations that existed. While some countries did have an entry license with a simpler written there were others who didn't. In some countries, you had to take formal classes and you were not allowed to take the test if you had just studied on your own. Dee, N8UZE Dee Are you saying you see that last as a positive thing? It would certainly be good for the technical education industry but does that make it a good thing for amateur radio. If a formal course were a requirement then I imagine that it would be easier to find one. I'd love to find a formal class for the extra class material. I'd even be happy with a referral to a respectable correspondence or on line course. Anyone have any suggestions along those lines. -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR/AG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lessee... The ARRL has on-line classes for EMCOM, Antennas, Propagation, Digital.... I take it you're suggesting that I take all of the ARRL advanced classes as a substitute for a single class that is focused on the body of knowledge that the exam tests for. At the urging of the VEs that ran my general exam I took the extra the same day. I didn't pass but I did get a sense of what the exam is testing for. I only recall two questions on digital circuits or logic. Should I really take an entire course for the sake of those two questions? -- Tom Horne, KB3OPR Tom, if you failed the Extra exam by two questions, then perhaps an entire course is worthwhile... And what would it hurt to have more knowledge than that minimum required to pass an exam? After all, it's what you do with your license that's important. The Old-Timers felt that the ARS gave up a lot when the FCC reduced the Morse Code Exam to a single 5WPM (at 13-15WPM) exam. The ARRL struck back with any number of on-line courses to beef up the knowledge base of the service. I asked this very group if anyone had taken any of the courses... no positive responses. They already know everything. You admit that you don't, so perhaps a course would benefit you. Good luck getting to Extra. I didn't say that I missed by two questions. I said I only saw two questions on the exam that were related to digital circuits. Sorry. I was wondering if it was worth taking the entire digital course to prepare for two questions. I'd like to get the license as soon as possible so that I can serve as a control operator on any frequency that might be useful for emergency services work. That is were my particular interest lies. That was my interest for getting a license, too. I will be taking those courses once I have finished the Exam preparation. What I was hoping to find was a course that is focused on preparing for the Extra Class Exam. -- Tom Horne The ARRL publishes videos for licensing. Maybe some group locall has them. check the larger radio clubs when looking for the extra class or get it yourslef donate it to a club when you are finshed and deduct it on your taxes Good luck, bb- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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